03 May 2013 16:54:47
just a question to everyone, what do you make of ukip?i am undecided.
Against any Government to be hoest Franky. They are in it for themselves. they're all rich snobs who litterally havnt got a clue. They don't care about us either so its a big sham to be honest. Even if we had a government that cared about the tax payers, it wouldn't be long before the Elite got into their ranks to turn the tide. I beleive that 100%.
Geordie Al
Geordie Al
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True geordie I will agree with you there but since we have not a worthy independent coming anytime soon a change from lab/con might be slightly better, then as I write this I find out a lot of torie people defecating to ukip ffs {Ed001's Note - there really is no difference in any of them.}
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True edd, {Ed001's Note - I was thinking it yesterday when the polls were open here. I would never vote Tory, Liberals would just give power to the Tories anyway and Labour are just Tory by another name these days. That only leaves independents, and most independents are wealthy people who would normally vote Tory anyway. Doesn't really give you a choice as such.}
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I recommend checking out Nigel Farage's appearances in the European Parliament, via YouTube. He's quite impressive.
However, for UKIP to win an election depends on many things. For one, they must have the media on-side which means 'deal brokering' with the likes of Murdoch. a man whom Farage has recently dined with.
If you saw the papers in the last week, there were a few instances of frightening the electorate/sheep off UKIP. Come the next election and it will be full on, for weeks and months; scaremongering to generate doubt.
While I disagree in principle with the Ed's note that they're all the same, I'd have to say that for UKIP to come to power, they will have to become the same - accept both the establishment and established ways that this country runs itself and the world. Sad but true - put up or emigrate somewhere with a language barrier sufficiently tough enough to completely disengage you from politics.
No, not Wales.
Pablo
However, for UKIP to win an election depends on many things. For one, they must have the media on-side which means 'deal brokering' with the likes of Murdoch. a man whom Farage has recently dined with.
If you saw the papers in the last week, there were a few instances of frightening the electorate/sheep off UKIP. Come the next election and it will be full on, for weeks and months; scaremongering to generate doubt.
While I disagree in principle with the Ed's note that they're all the same, I'd have to say that for UKIP to come to power, they will have to become the same - accept both the establishment and established ways that this country runs itself and the world. Sad but true - put up or emigrate somewhere with a language barrier sufficiently tough enough to completely disengage you from politics.
No, not Wales.
Pablo
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Ukip! Well the top boys go to the same clubs as the rest, this is to make you think there is a choice, this is their system and a big CLUB, only way we can change is the get a new system.
Some folk like Coke, some Pepsi, othersAsda coke!
but it's the same s***.
By the way do you really think your votes count, do you check the votes, do you trust them?
If you where at the top would you let the lesser class (me and you) to get the power to change a thing?
Murp
Some folk like Coke, some Pepsi, othersAsda coke!
but it's the same s***.
By the way do you really think your votes count, do you check the votes, do you trust them?
If you where at the top would you let the lesser class (me and you) to get the power to change a thing?
Murp
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Bunch of little Englanders. Just all rhetoric with them, I thought Tories where bad, they will be ten times worse.
Just hope to god Scotland votes for independence, then we will be free of Tories and Neo-Tories (ukip) forever.
Sorry England but it will be your mess.
Just hope to god Scotland votes for independence, then we will be free of Tories and Neo-Tories (ukip) forever.
Sorry England but it will be your mess.
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03 May 2013 22:31:48
Farage went to public school and his dad worked in the city hardly any different. And to the last guy, you really think independence for scotland will work out? Remember salmond is a politician, you think he's any better than the tories? He'll sell you out to Brussels but then it'll be your mess.
Farage went to public school and his dad worked in the city hardly any different. And to the last guy, you really think independence for scotland will work out? Remember salmond is a politician, you think he's any better than the tories? He'll sell you out to Brussels but then it'll be your mess.
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By the way, I read in a UN doc a long time ago, Scotland will be twined with Norway, lol
We live through a script, just like the USA will be broken into 10 regions and then made into the north Amrican union with Cananda and Mexico.
the north american union, will join with the EU, then the African Union and the East Asian Union, pmsl cause then this is the NEW WORLD ORDER, there is only of team at the top.
We live through a script, just like the USA will be broken into 10 regions and then made into the north Amrican union with Cananda and Mexico.
the north american union, will join with the EU, then the African Union and the East Asian Union, pmsl cause then this is the NEW WORLD ORDER, there is only of team at the top.
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More a point about the system as a whole rather than individual politicans or parties, democracy is based on a fallacy- whislt the acient greeks knew their stuff their society was run on a slave economy i. e the ones who did all the thinking never did the hard graft, so mabye its no surprise were all slaves to globalisation
history my friends, we're doomed to repeat it :)
history my friends, we're doomed to repeat it :)
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I think the SNP are allot better than the Tories, they have done a lot of positive things since they have came to power.
Lets put it this way the NWO don`t want Scotland to go independent, as the first thing we will do is get rid of nuclear weapons! {Ed001's Note - and then join the EU and do as you are told, like all EU nations.}
Lets put it this way the NWO don`t want Scotland to go independent, as the first thing we will do is get rid of nuclear weapons! {Ed001's Note - and then join the EU and do as you are told, like all EU nations.}
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If the NWO didn't want the SNP in Scotland it would be so.
Murp.
we live through a script and we can't change a thing.
Murp.
we live through a script and we can't change a thing.
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