04 Mar 2012 19:43:41
Does anyone know how many crystal skulls have been found. Also what exactly do scientists think will happen if they bring them together. I watched a program about them the other day(ancient aliens) and it wasn't very informative.
Delboy.
I think the reason it wasn't very informative is because...well...there were almost certainly no "ancient aliens".
Rikki
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@Rikki- "amlost certainly no ancient aliens"
Not being standoffish but I'm really interested in hearing you're thoughts on the expedited evolution of our speciec. We wandered around for millions of years unable to make even the most elementary civilogical advances and seemingly instantanously at about 12-14 thousand years ago we began farming, domesticating animals, and building civilizations. Also eyewitness reports of the times as well as scientific annomalies seemingly point to unrivaled technological occurences in these ancient times. These are not schewed hypothesi of conspiracy sight but rather fact and I'm just curious to hear you're beliefs on the matter.
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Not being standoffish but I'm really interested in hearing you're thoughts on the expedited evolution of our speciec. We wandered around for millions of years unable to make even the most elementary civilogical advances and seemingly instantanously at about 12-14 thousand years ago we began farming, domesticating animals, and building civilizations. Also eyewitness reports of the times as well as scientific annomalies seemingly point to unrivaled technological occurences in these ancient times. These are not schewed hypothesi of conspiracy sight but rather fact and I'm just curious to hear you're beliefs on the matter.
BUCK
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Note to ed: if this is too long, please just post TLDR!
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This is actually a tough one! The wandering around for millions of years before our technological and sociological explosions is only an issue because we view it as advanced humans. By this I mean we weren't actually just "wandering around" for all this time, but the evolutionary pressures at the time required very different selective responses than to be "inventive" (such adaptations as antipredator behaviour, social cohesion, orbital convergence were selected for).
Current thought suggests that advanced social structures evolved before any major technological advances emerged. So if you picture a "caveman" population using primitive tools but having a society with structure, roles, bonds, 'rules' and - most importantly “ language, any single technological advance (e.g. fire, hunting strategies, domestication and planting edible flora) would spread through all the sub-populations at a rate so quick it appears instantaneous in retrospect.
The reason such advances can spread so quick is because they are not genetic adaptations, which need to be passed on through generations, rather they are cultural adaptations that can be transferred horizontally (across one generation), and be improved, within a single generation. Therefore if group A works out that using rocks to build shelters is a much better alternative than wood or straw, group B, who live close by and share relatives, will quickly adopt any advantageous advances and, as they will have their own method of construction, may stumble across a better method for building such structures. This can then be transferred back to Group A in the space of weeks or months. (This is why language is so important, and is extremely under-appreciated). Swap rocks for shelters for fire, farming ad nauseum.
I hope that makes sense, it's hard to explain without invoking kin selection and such. Such developments would have been occurring consistently long before 15000 years ago for instance, we were domesticating animals well before 14,000 years ago (the domestic dog has been genetically distinct from the wolf for at least 15000 years, suggesting it was being bred a good while before this time).
I have no knowledge of the anomalies or eye-witness accounts of which you speak, so I can't address them, but I hope that kind of gives you an idea of how it is plausible, within the realms of what is understood today (I'm sure people here can accept genes exist, and humans have evolved) to explain seemingly quantum leaps in human advance without invoking any supernatural or poorly-supported theories.
Sorry for the length, but it's my field!
Rikki
@BUCK
This is actually a tough one! The wandering around for millions of years before our technological and sociological explosions is only an issue because we view it as advanced humans. By this I mean we weren't actually just "wandering around" for all this time, but the evolutionary pressures at the time required very different selective responses than to be "inventive" (such adaptations as antipredator behaviour, social cohesion, orbital convergence were selected for).
Current thought suggests that advanced social structures evolved before any major technological advances emerged. So if you picture a "caveman" population using primitive tools but having a society with structure, roles, bonds, 'rules' and - most importantly “ language, any single technological advance (e.g. fire, hunting strategies, domestication and planting edible flora) would spread through all the sub-populations at a rate so quick it appears instantaneous in retrospect.
The reason such advances can spread so quick is because they are not genetic adaptations, which need to be passed on through generations, rather they are cultural adaptations that can be transferred horizontally (across one generation), and be improved, within a single generation. Therefore if group A works out that using rocks to build shelters is a much better alternative than wood or straw, group B, who live close by and share relatives, will quickly adopt any advantageous advances and, as they will have their own method of construction, may stumble across a better method for building such structures. This can then be transferred back to Group A in the space of weeks or months. (This is why language is so important, and is extremely under-appreciated). Swap rocks for shelters for fire, farming ad nauseum.
I hope that makes sense, it's hard to explain without invoking kin selection and such. Such developments would have been occurring consistently long before 15000 years ago for instance, we were domesticating animals well before 14,000 years ago (the domestic dog has been genetically distinct from the wolf for at least 15000 years, suggesting it was being bred a good while before this time).
I have no knowledge of the anomalies or eye-witness accounts of which you speak, so I can't address them, but I hope that kind of gives you an idea of how it is plausible, within the realms of what is understood today (I'm sure people here can accept genes exist, and humans have evolved) to explain seemingly quantum leaps in human advance without invoking any supernatural or poorly-supported theories.
Sorry for the length, but it's my field!
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Thanks for the respnod Rikki, I don't personaly subscribe to any particular theory on the matter, just like knowing all theories. I figured you'd have a pretty good grasp on the mainstream scientific thoughts on the matter. Admittedly I had completely forgot Kin selection when thinking on the matter, so that's where my struggle was at. Thanks
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