05 Mar 2012 13:27:44 Hey, new to posting on here but I thought I'd gi… · #909

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05 Mar 2012 13:27:44
Hey, new to posting on here but I thought I'd give it a go :) What I'm writing about isn't really a conspiracy, just clearing things up!
1st thing is, the legal age of consent in the Vatican city is 12 for a reason! when they became independent, they chose to live by some rules previously set in Italy. Obviously, the laws in Italy became more up to date with time passed, and they raised the age first to 14, and then to 16 which it is now. It did not change in the Vatican city because it is not relevant, when you consider the population is made up of people who mainly vow to be celibate! a similar thing happened here in the UK, with it only becoming illegal to own a slave in 2010! it just wasn't relevant anymore and was simply over looked!
2nd, people talking about Noah! it actually states in the bible that 2 of each filthy beast go on board his ark and 7!!!!!! of each clean beast go on board. The animals deemed to be clean are listed in Leviticus and I believe are similar to Jewish kosher laws! so the task handed to Noah was actually larger than you think! however, I don't think this is reason enough to start talking about ETs taking animal DNA, i think both are as unlikely as each other and that the story should just be forgotten ( I would like to point out at this point, that I am catholic!)
3rd, it's not really important, but why would Michelangelo think to leave out the belly button? to my knowledge, which I admit is limited, cloning wasn't a concept back then, so I don't fully understand why they'd think to leave out the belly button, especially if it was based on man as they had seen it. just a thought! to paraphrase peter hitchens, any religion is better than no religion, so people on here shouldn't try and destroy the faith that some people do hold on to. I myself sit on the fence, as a lot of the bible is obviously bunk and has been disproved by science! But for every how science has given us, it leaves open the question of why? which is why i think god still has a role to play in life yet!

a note to leave on. If human beings evolved from life that used to dwell in the sea, does that mean people who are good at swimming are less evolved?


tinhead x

 

" which is why i think god still has a role to play in life yet! "

There is no god . There is no proof of existence of any god . The only claimed proof is found in multi-millenia old fairy stories , written by semi-literate tribesman .

Beliefs are just ideas that have gone bald .

jimi88
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"But for every how science has given us, it leaves open the question of why? which is why i think god still has a role to play in life yet!"

A brilliant example of the old "God of the gaps" rhetoric! The thing is, these gaps get smaller every century. Hopefully it won't be too long until religion is no longer able to oppress women, homosexuals etc.

But hey, "any religion is better than no religion"...all those bloody Atheist terrorists!

Rikki
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Same time though you cannot disprove that God/s don't exist.

Also if you actaully knew what you were on about you'd realise that most of the religious texts in the world were not written by semi-literate tribesmen.

As someone else pointed out a lot of creation myths in many religious texts go abck to Sumer and they definitely were not "semi-literate tribesmen"

If people want to believe in God/s then up to them, science hasn't disproved or proved anything yet, the jury is still out. Even the scientists admit that as they are all still arguing with each other.
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Science's aim is not to disprove God, it is to better understand the World and Universe around us. Just because something can not be disproved does not mean it might exist (Russell's Teapot is the classic example).

Further, something that is impossible to disprove must, by definition, have no observable influence on the Universe at any point in its past or future.

Rikki
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tinhead, how can u say it's not relevant about the age of consent when catholic priest's, which now must be numbering in the thousand's, have been caught raping and abusing children all over the world. I'm not anti catholic, ( i have lived in Ireland and spain and found the people in both country's brilliant ) and there is no way the same thing is not happening in other religions, but for it to be 12 in the first place is shocking. Masons are luciferian, so why is the most powerful lodge in the world situated in the Vatican( P2 ). Have a look on youtube at the present pope shaking Tony Blair hand, and tell me this is not a mason's hand shake. My opinion is that the catholic church is more than they are letting on.

Again i'm not having ago at catholic people, the 2 most decent thing's anyone has ever done for me was by catholic people and i will never forget that. Given that the new world order has just about taken over the world and are about to destroy religion as we know it and most are masons, there must be more to the catholic church than we know, or i Know at present. Anyone got any answers !
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God doesnt exist, and there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest so. There is more evidence out there that suggests we may not be alone in the universe, and even most of that evidence is questionable, but a very small percental of it is remarkable.
The universe is a beautiful, mysterious place, which we'll understand a lot more as time passes us by. But so far, we know only of ourselves in our tiny little corner of our galaxy. Maybe one day, we will come across another planet with intelligent life on it, and maybe not. But with the vastness of the universe, its more than likely that there is some galaxy out there that we dont even know about, that may be harbouring intelligent life forms, maybe just lime us, who knows.

Peace

Jay
Glasgow
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I dont think the nwo are out to destroy any religion infact i think they need people who believe in whatever god to pray to for more conflicts around the world, think about it if the jews and catholics/church of england/allah whoever would know god was a fraud , then everyone would turn there attenion to the real issue, like who is running our world, like the nwo and if there is no conflict about religion we could all unite against the real enemy, hence nwo.
frankyscouse
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I wasn't trying to prove or disprove god's existence through any of that, just saying the figure that we call god which we use to make ourselves feel better about not understanding, still has a role to play. Until science proves there is no God, I'm willing to believe in the possibility!

Also, with the catholic priest thing, I admit that one raping anyone, is too many, but there isn't that many it's just a story inflated because of the fact that's a catholic priest! did you know that per capita, Vatican city has the highest rate of crime in the world? does that mean that the pope is a cat burgler? people can use statistics to argue any point so it's not worth paying attention to them. 74% of all people know that ;)

tinhead x
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" Same time though you cannot disprove that God/s don't exist"

Its up to you to prove god exists , you're making claims he / she / It may have more to contribute . Where is this god you speak of ?

jimi88
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But the point of God is that it's probably more than likely never going to be known whether he does or does not exist! I'm not arguing for him here, just stating that I'm willing to keep an open mind as to my knowledge, there's no proof that he doesn't exist. I honestly don't believe in the bible, most of it is lifted from other texts and it's hard to believe in most of it, and I agree with science as it obviously has the proof behind it to back it up, but there still must have been something at the very beginning? I'll admit I like the idea of a God, because it really does help to comprehend the idea of the universe's creation, rather than not knowing why or how it became? like I said, I sit on the fence on this, because there is no evidence backing up either side, and if God does exist, I'd rather be on good terms when i die haha

tinhead x
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They need to hurry up and find this "god particle" the hicks bozon if thats spelt correctly ? The nutters will just say "Ah but who made the hicks bozon, must have bben god" I can see it now....

Matt_RFC
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It is just a point of discussion that will never end though. What started everything off? I think the world is better off believing that a God did it and bringing faith and a moral code to live by with it. Again, I'm sitting on the fence of this, so if any answer is ever revealed, I'll happily accept that answer (with proof or reasoning) but until then, I'm happy to carry on believing in a higher power. There is no point being so close minded that people can't at least accept the possibility of a God and trying to argue with people about it so they lose their own faith!
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If people want to beleive in god I have no problem with that its just a different opinion to mine. What I actually hate though is relegion, how can you be devoted to something you cannot prove and thank this god for all his wonder without acknowledging the fact that he must have created everything bas aswell ! I dont get how a 60 year old woman who has been to church/mosque/temple all her life and allways followed the 10 commandments or whatever, gets say bowel cancer and has a 2 year painfull struggle then dies, but before she dies still beleives in god and says things like their going to a better place. Be my guest, beleive in him it or them, but PLEASE STOP TELLING THE WORLD GOD LOVES YOU ! If he's real he hates you, get over it.

Matt_RFC
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