30 Apr 2014 07:17:34
not my type of subject but this was found about the chem trails. Pilot allegedly forgets to turn of chemical sprays before landing
http://tinyurl.com/mugyqt6
I don't really know what to think about chemtrails, I'm keeping an open mind.
One thing I would have to say though, is that if it is happening, it is not with the consent or knowledge of any commercial airline pilot I have ever met. Do people really think there is a switch in the flight deck of major airliners activated by the pilot for the release of chemtrails?
It could be something as simple as wingtip vortices.
http://youtu.be/DrQog6rVavc
Ryan.
One thing I would have to say though, is that if it is happening, it is not with the consent or knowledge of any commercial airline pilot I have ever met. Do people really think there is a switch in the flight deck of major airliners activated by the pilot for the release of chemtrails?
It could be something as simple as wingtip vortices.
http://youtu.be/DrQog6rVavc
Ryan.
{Ed033's Note - Here is a comprehensive documentary on chem-trails
What in the World Are They Spraying?
What in the World Are They Spraying?
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Hey Ryan,
one could easily deduce from the video link you posted that chemtrails and wingtip vortices are not the same thing.
One dissipates, the other does not.
One is followed by the formation of "clouds", the other is not.
Breath it in, one is toxic, the other is not.
zari
one could easily deduce from the video link you posted that chemtrails and wingtip vortices are not the same thing.
One dissipates, the other does not.
One is followed by the formation of "clouds", the other is not.
Breath it in, one is toxic, the other is not.
zari
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I think it is pretty obvious that chemtrails and wing tip vortices are not the same Zari. That is not what I am suggesting.
The video Franky refers to could possibly be explained by wing tip vortices. I have spoken to three pilots today and they all agree wing tip vortices are likely, though of course no one can say definitively based on a 42 second clip of a plane on short finals at night.
I am also making the wider point that the idea that passenger carrying commercial airliners discharging chemtrails is highly improbable, bordering on absurd. Tell that to airline pilots and watch their reaction.
I have seen photos of the inside of aircraft allegedly fitted for this purpose, and the tanks are so numerous and large that there is no room for passengers.
Thanks for the breath it in comment. Very helpful.
Ryan.
The video Franky refers to could possibly be explained by wing tip vortices. I have spoken to three pilots today and they all agree wing tip vortices are likely, though of course no one can say definitively based on a 42 second clip of a plane on short finals at night.
I am also making the wider point that the idea that passenger carrying commercial airliners discharging chemtrails is highly improbable, bordering on absurd. Tell that to airline pilots and watch their reaction.
I have seen photos of the inside of aircraft allegedly fitted for this purpose, and the tanks are so numerous and large that there is no room for passengers.
Thanks for the breath it in comment. Very helpful.
Ryan.
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@Ed033, it seems more than just a coincidence that Monsanto's GMO seeds are specially designed to grow in the high presence of aluminium, given that it seems to be heavily present in chemtrails.
I saw a discussion on TV a few months ago where farmers (in Ireland) were openly welcoming the idea of GM seeds as it would mean greater crop yields and they would be more competitive. It's heartbreaking that they cannot see the bigger picture.
I think the idea that eventually all grain and vegetable produce will only be grown under licence from a few global suppliers like Monsanto is truly frightening and very possible. I have already seen documentaries where small farms (in the USA) have been shut down and had their equipment confiscated because they were selling organic eggs, milk etc at source.
You can very easily see a scenario a few years down the line whereby only Monsanto licensed produce can be bought and sold commercially, and all homegrown, organic food will actually be illegal to buy and sell. Thanks for the vid it was excellent.
Ryan.
I saw a discussion on TV a few months ago where farmers (in Ireland) were openly welcoming the idea of GM seeds as it would mean greater crop yields and they would be more competitive. It's heartbreaking that they cannot see the bigger picture.
I think the idea that eventually all grain and vegetable produce will only be grown under licence from a few global suppliers like Monsanto is truly frightening and very possible. I have already seen documentaries where small farms (in the USA) have been shut down and had their equipment confiscated because they were selling organic eggs, milk etc at source.
You can very easily see a scenario a few years down the line whereby only Monsanto licensed produce can be bought and sold commercially, and all homegrown, organic food will actually be illegal to buy and sell. Thanks for the vid it was excellent.
Ryan.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, it's worse in India as all farmers over there believed monsanto crops were going to bring them more money but it actually caused them to go into huge debt that they can't pay back as you have to buy special products off monsanto to grow crops each year, you have to buy the seeds each year off monsanto (with monsanto charging what they like) and the actual yield is lower, so you sell less and thus make less money and therefore start borrowing money.
When indian farmers get into uncontrollable debt because of Monsanto, they commit suicide. Scores of farmers in India each day are committing suicide because in India, debts are passed onto others in your family, and the only way to wipe out the debt is to commit suicide apparently.
On another note, people just have to realise that in commonwealth countries, all illegal means is that it's against government policy, and government policy only applies to people who:
a) consent to that policy
b) are an employee/public servant at work so have contracted while at work to abide by government policies
c) foreigners who reside within the government's jurisdiction and have contracted with government to abide by government policies when they applied for and were granted residency or citizenship
When indian farmers get into uncontrollable debt because of Monsanto, they commit suicide. Scores of farmers in India each day are committing suicide because in India, debts are passed onto others in your family, and the only way to wipe out the debt is to commit suicide apparently.
On another note, people just have to realise that in commonwealth countries, all illegal means is that it's against government policy, and government policy only applies to people who:
a) consent to that policy
b) are an employee/public servant at work so have contracted while at work to abide by government policies
c) foreigners who reside within the government's jurisdiction and have contracted with government to abide by government policies when they applied for and were granted residency or citizenship
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