09 Jun 2014 15:08:25 just read this and a short 5 min video about a 3… · #9140

{Ed001's Note - there might well be, but you can only assume that this is one of those, as these marine biologists seem to have done, if the evidence rules out all known possibilities. Right now the evidence points to it being simply down to a Killer Whale. In my opinion they are just looking for a bit of publicity and funding by whipping up hysteria.}

{Ed001's Note - that is not true, they eat more than the liver, there is video footage of an Orca sharing its kill with young Orcas and they defo ate more than the liver. As for the temperature, I very much doubt they have accurate data on the internal temp of the stomach while it is digesting a meal and diving. If the suggestion is that the creature is likely not to be warm blooded, then that is likely to rule out a large shark anyway, the chances are a large predatory shark would not be truly cold blooded, Great Whites certainly are not. As for a Giant Squid, I would love that to be true, as they fascinate me, but are they really that capable a killer? After all, they are hunted by Sperm Whales, which are a very large and powerful species, but I would think a Great White would be able to put up a noticeable fight against one, at the very least? Maybe I am wrong, but it just seems they are jumping to conclusions in order to stoke up some research money to me.}

{Ed001's Note - I saw that program, they really do fascinate me, but size is no help to them against Sperm Whale. It would be intriguing to find out if they really are able to hunt and kill Great Whites, but it would seem unlikely as they don't seem to spend enough time in the same areas of water. It is an interesting suggestion though, certainly can't be ruled out, as there is nothing to say yes or no.}

{Ed001's Note - well we know that Sperm Whales main diet is Giant Squid, so it is unlikely they do grow big enough.}

{Ed001's Note - how is it like saying that? Dogs do not prey on cats at all. Your attempt at explaining it was just nonsense. In the wild cats are predators, dogs are scavengers.}

{Ed001's Note - and that is relevant because? Great Whites can also be pack hunters, but I fail to see your point. Or are you trying to suggest that packs of dogs hunt cats?}

{Ed001's Note - are you not the one being deliberately pedantic? Or perhaps unable to read? I never asserted anything, merely said it was unlikely. As for the dogs things, it was a ridiculous comparison to compare a scavenger with a predator, it has no value as a comparison. It is not being pedantic, just not being stupid enough to accept a ridiculous comparison that makes no sense and has no logic to it. The only person derailing debate is yourself by getting all arsey about someone else disputing what you say, as it seems you are refusing to accept you could be wrong. The only thing that is obvious is that you never thought through your analogy and made a mistake with it. Or perhaps learn to read and understand that point that I was making is that a scavenger is not a true predator. Dogs will hunt the weak and infirm, they look for easy prey or scavenge carcasses. That is how they survive and why they came to be tamed by humanity in the first place. A Great White Shark I have no doubt would happily take advantage of a carcass it came across but it is not its main way of existence. As such, a dog will often be the target for creatures it might prey on, if circumstances allow, but it is very rare for a predator to become the prey for a creature it preys on. As for your crap about guess work and fact, no one but you claimed it to be a fact, only my opinion, unlike you I can tell the difference. Oh and it is not guess work anyway, it is observation based on the natural patterns of creatures across the world. A creature preyed on by a tiger is unlikely to prey on lions, for instance, or is that concept too difficult for you to understand? Perhaps you would like me to make some ridiculous comparison to hyenas or other non-related creatures it could prey on??}

{Ed001's Note - I certainly wouldn't rule it out, it would be fascinating if they were able to prey on Great Whites. Also be interesting to know if they grew too big for Sperm Whales to tackles. I love Giant Squid, there is something amazing about them, I think it may have been all the stories about Kraken I grew up being told.}

{Ed001's Note - and I never asserted that they couldn't, I said it was unlikely, but your analogy is still complete cack, just admit it, it is easier than making yourself look an arse by arguing about something no one has actually said other than you through your inability to read. I have also never claimed to know their length. This is the problem with people like you, you just make up crap in your head and twist what is actually said to suit the lies you want to make. I have had enough, no more, you can't read basic English, you twist my words to suit your lack of logic and to create arguments where there are none. It is time to move on, this is boring.}

{Ed001's Note - oh give it a rest.}