16 Sep 2011 09:48:20
"AH! Am I the only won on crazy pills here?!"
Owl worshiping Illuminati? You lot are insane! There is much to worry about in society and governments, world poverty and wars etc. However dont go looking in bargin Books crazy crap for kids section. Read Marx,Chomsky or watch Adam Curtis ALL WATCHED OVER BY MACHINES OF LOVING GRACE. You lot if you lived in Germany in the 1930s would have fallen for the eternal jew conspiracy!
Can I ask the conspiracy boys if they know of any of the countless real attrocities carried out by the West.
Has anyone read about PATRICE LUMUMBA? Anyone read about KEN SARO WIWA? 2 examples of real crimes by our governments and multi nationals not hidden publically documented. But because moronic Americans and Europeans want to hide in a fog of pulp fantasy no one gets angry about the real crimes their too busy thinking George Bush is a grey who likes owls.
Semptember 11th 1973 US backed coup in Chile, leads to torture and murder of 40,000 innocent people,women raped by dogs, babies taken from their families,international terrorist bombings by Pinochet government. All there in declassified documents recorded by news cameras but you lot dont get angry about this your too busy thinking about crop circles.
2002 Venezuela US backs failed coup against democratically elected Hugo Chavez, not hidden recorded facts easily available but you lot arent concerned your too busy looking on the net for owl shaped buildings.
Millions across the world come face to face with the horrors of multi national capitalism on a daily basis many try and resist it. You lot however are a product of the self obbsessed apathy of western civilisation you sit reading badly written books on stupid subjects aimed at appealing to dumb people, you watch badly made documentries on stupid subjects by ridiculous mad individuals who are profiting on your gulabile nature.
Your world views are based on the wrtings of comic and sci fi obbessed loners!
If you want to understand the modern world why not listen to the voices of those most effected by it, try SUB COMANDANTE MARCOS.
Pathetic
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History just repeats itself, if people knew the full extent of why wars and conficts are set up mostly ,they would be shocked as nearly every power in history is guitly of this, not counting the nutjobs that kill there own people to get power in smaller countries , if only we could just share food as no one should go hungrey and live in peace , sounds simple but power and greed is what world leaders love..........lfc
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The point is people should not be apathetic. The info is there people cant say "i didnt know" the problem is all this rubbish about aliens, illuminati, owls, aztec spaceships is the crap people dont filter.
I just wish that people would really get angry about real things like the Tories and the stupid cuts that mean normal people lose the most important services to maintain banks credit sheets!
" If you tremble with indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine" Ernesto Che Guevara.
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I just wish that people would really get angry about real things like the Tories and the stupid cuts that mean normal people lose the most important services to maintain banks credit sheets!
" If you tremble with indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine" Ernesto Che Guevara.
Dont Buy the Sun
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Wow, what a nice post to wake up to....not.
DBTS, what you are forgetting is this is not a current/previous affairs page, this is not a 'historical events that show you who your government really is' page - it is a CONSPIRACY THEORY page.
Why are you even here if all you are going to do is crap on everyone who have a different opinion to yourself? I have lived in Liverpool for a long time and I have to say a Scouser is 'always right', and even if you aren't one, you sound like one. The fact that some conspiracy theories clearly highlight the Chavez incident as being of deeply suspicious nature is lost on you. The difference is that some people are on here looking at these events and asking the question 'why?' not 'how could they?' If you think every bit of fighting that breaks out in the middle east, be it Jordan, Lebanon, Israel, wherever, is a separate, completely unrelated event to the next, and that Chavez was, maybe you should do some reading mate. I am not saying you are wrong, but you are utterly convinced you're right without knowing any more than anyone else, and without knowing what we know either.
What some people believe IS that they're linked. How can you be so sure that the countless atrocities carried out by the west are not part of some conspiracy? How do you KNOW that? You don't mate. SO why leave such a ridiculously hostile post? Why are you even here? Do you go to a gay bar and call everyone fags? Probably not, so why go on a conspiracy site and call everyone loons and tell them they read crap.
How do you know some people on here if not all haven't read all about Marx? Or the Chavez saga? I for one have. I have told you that before.
What astounds me is that the concept of the Illuminati, in modern terms, is a very Western-led thing - yes they are all over the world, apparently, but USA is the supposed 'greatest super-power', and that is where, it is assumed, the Illuminati pull most of their strings. You talk about Western atrocities- yet is doesn't occur to you that you are proving a point, that it actually COULD be something greater than a simple government act that is 'atrocious'. Don't you ever sit there and wonder why the government carries out these atrocities? Have you never heard of a False Flag operation?
A lot of this depends on scale. These theories require the action of an organisation that operates at a scale and depth that is so vast it is very difficult to imagine. But things have been happening on unimaginable scales since the dawn of man, these thigns only seem unimaginable to the modern man who thinks if it can't be done in 2 seconds and with the flick of a switch, it's probably not possible.
What you also fail to consider is exactly how capitalism is the Catalyst, should Illuminati exist. It makes perfect sense. Everything you have told people to consider and go read about actually point towards there being some bigger picture that the common man simply does not feel or notice in their day-today life.
In a nutshell, you strike me as not only hostile in your opinion, but utterly convinced of your own intelligence. If you know so much mate, why are you on here, and why are you not doing something more worthwhile with your life like changing the world?
George Bush was a puppet, and a bad one at that. FACT. Do you never ask - whose puppet? Moon landing stuff was held secret, not released to the public, and deep suspicion still shrouds that hole saga - FACT. I suppose you read all the reason why and thought 'naah, they aren't lying to us'.
I really dislike it when someone who thinks they know everything about everything comes along and runs their mouth, puts people down with stupid gimmick comments like 'buy Bargain books for dummies' etc etc, and then totally contradicts themselves with almost every point they make.
Answer this question, if you will, seeing as you already know the answer it seems:
Why is there poverty and starvation in less-developed, famine-ridden countries?
Answer this too please : why did Neil Armstrong refuse to speak in any depth in public about his trip to the moon?
Also: do you feel that if there was no hint of threat to the US government, it would have an excuse to finance it's military?
Do you not find it a very strange coincidence that Sept 11th keeps cropping up in dates of historical disasters?
Come on mate, if you genuinely believe that there is nothing suspicious going on all across our world then that is worrying. You'll sit here saying capitalism is doing this and that, but you won't question why.
Raz
DBTS, what you are forgetting is this is not a current/previous affairs page, this is not a 'historical events that show you who your government really is' page - it is a CONSPIRACY THEORY page.
Why are you even here if all you are going to do is crap on everyone who have a different opinion to yourself? I have lived in Liverpool for a long time and I have to say a Scouser is 'always right', and even if you aren't one, you sound like one. The fact that some conspiracy theories clearly highlight the Chavez incident as being of deeply suspicious nature is lost on you. The difference is that some people are on here looking at these events and asking the question 'why?' not 'how could they?' If you think every bit of fighting that breaks out in the middle east, be it Jordan, Lebanon, Israel, wherever, is a separate, completely unrelated event to the next, and that Chavez was, maybe you should do some reading mate. I am not saying you are wrong, but you are utterly convinced you're right without knowing any more than anyone else, and without knowing what we know either.
What some people believe IS that they're linked. How can you be so sure that the countless atrocities carried out by the west are not part of some conspiracy? How do you KNOW that? You don't mate. SO why leave such a ridiculously hostile post? Why are you even here? Do you go to a gay bar and call everyone fags? Probably not, so why go on a conspiracy site and call everyone loons and tell them they read crap.
How do you know some people on here if not all haven't read all about Marx? Or the Chavez saga? I for one have. I have told you that before.
What astounds me is that the concept of the Illuminati, in modern terms, is a very Western-led thing - yes they are all over the world, apparently, but USA is the supposed 'greatest super-power', and that is where, it is assumed, the Illuminati pull most of their strings. You talk about Western atrocities- yet is doesn't occur to you that you are proving a point, that it actually COULD be something greater than a simple government act that is 'atrocious'. Don't you ever sit there and wonder why the government carries out these atrocities? Have you never heard of a False Flag operation?
A lot of this depends on scale. These theories require the action of an organisation that operates at a scale and depth that is so vast it is very difficult to imagine. But things have been happening on unimaginable scales since the dawn of man, these thigns only seem unimaginable to the modern man who thinks if it can't be done in 2 seconds and with the flick of a switch, it's probably not possible.
What you also fail to consider is exactly how capitalism is the Catalyst, should Illuminati exist. It makes perfect sense. Everything you have told people to consider and go read about actually point towards there being some bigger picture that the common man simply does not feel or notice in their day-today life.
In a nutshell, you strike me as not only hostile in your opinion, but utterly convinced of your own intelligence. If you know so much mate, why are you on here, and why are you not doing something more worthwhile with your life like changing the world?
George Bush was a puppet, and a bad one at that. FACT. Do you never ask - whose puppet? Moon landing stuff was held secret, not released to the public, and deep suspicion still shrouds that hole saga - FACT. I suppose you read all the reason why and thought 'naah, they aren't lying to us'.
I really dislike it when someone who thinks they know everything about everything comes along and runs their mouth, puts people down with stupid gimmick comments like 'buy Bargain books for dummies' etc etc, and then totally contradicts themselves with almost every point they make.
Answer this question, if you will, seeing as you already know the answer it seems:
Why is there poverty and starvation in less-developed, famine-ridden countries?
Answer this too please : why did Neil Armstrong refuse to speak in any depth in public about his trip to the moon?
Also: do you feel that if there was no hint of threat to the US government, it would have an excuse to finance it's military?
Do you not find it a very strange coincidence that Sept 11th keeps cropping up in dates of historical disasters?
Come on mate, if you genuinely believe that there is nothing suspicious going on all across our world then that is worrying. You'll sit here saying capitalism is doing this and that, but you won't question why.
Raz
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P.s. LFC I agree it is horrible and a desperate shame. Instead, people like me end up working for a year just to afford to go out and volunteer for 4 months in poor countries and ultimately come home feeling like we didn't change anything. What people should be asking is WHY we don't do anything to truly help.
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If they are secretive why do they do things in patterns you idiot! Your right though this is a conspiracy page and I am too political, great the way you dont like being challenged you just want theorists to post!
This will be my last post tho as I should try and gate crash this party. Fair point though I shouldnt have come on posting about politics and current affairs shoulda stuck to men in cloaks and aztec aliens.
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This will be my last post tho as I should try and gate crash this party. Fair point though I shouldnt have come on posting about politics and current affairs shoulda stuck to men in cloaks and aztec aliens.
Dont Buy the Sun
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Even in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth......Mahatma Ghandi
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P.s. DBTS another note: you seem to lump everyone in together- just because someone thinks the moons stuff was, at one point, staged, which it was, or that the illuminati exist, does not mean they also think their were Aztec spaceships and aliens.
I also have to say that if you completely refute the concept of alien life, then again, that is simply mad. The fact that is has already been discovered that there was once life on Mars cannot be ignored. That, in whatever form it comes in, is Alien.
Think you need to chill out, separate the issues that are being discussed.
You know there are families of those who died on 9/11 who have been appealing to the US govt, FBI, CIA and anyone else for the release of crime scene details which explain exactly how the towers came down etc, and CCTV (which inexplicably went missing) of surrounding areas... guess what mate, 10 years later they still haven't been given it. Do you not find it deeply suspicious that those who volunteered, all the firefighters etc, on 9/11, weren't invited to the memorial day?
Raz
I also have to say that if you completely refute the concept of alien life, then again, that is simply mad. The fact that is has already been discovered that there was once life on Mars cannot be ignored. That, in whatever form it comes in, is Alien.
Think you need to chill out, separate the issues that are being discussed.
You know there are families of those who died on 9/11 who have been appealing to the US govt, FBI, CIA and anyone else for the release of crime scene details which explain exactly how the towers came down etc, and CCTV (which inexplicably went missing) of surrounding areas... guess what mate, 10 years later they still haven't been given it. Do you not find it deeply suspicious that those who volunteered, all the firefighters etc, on 9/11, weren't invited to the memorial day?
Raz
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Come on mate I am mroe than happy to be challenged - I just HATE when someone puts someone else down for a difference of opinion and calls them unintelligent or words to that affect, that's all. I am more than happy to be challenged. We just all need to have a bit of diplomacy in our posts that's all. Respect each other.
Btw I really would be curious to hear your answers to those questions!
Btw, IMO Illuminati aren't secret - the way they operate, to an extent, or who their members are, perhaps is, but you can't keep something secret and condition people. The whole point of conditioning is that you drip-feed people with information. When it is subliminal they aren't meant to notice but many do. Others notice once it is pointed out to them. The point is, they don't want us to hate them, they want us to love and follow them, and to do that you have to maintain some sort of presence. I.e. it is completely in their interests, if they DO exist, to make themselves known.
Raz
Btw I really would be curious to hear your answers to those questions!
Btw, IMO Illuminati aren't secret - the way they operate, to an extent, or who their members are, perhaps is, but you can't keep something secret and condition people. The whole point of conditioning is that you drip-feed people with information. When it is subliminal they aren't meant to notice but many do. Others notice once it is pointed out to them. The point is, they don't want us to hate them, they want us to love and follow them, and to do that you have to maintain some sort of presence. I.e. it is completely in their interests, if they DO exist, to make themselves known.
Raz
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P.s if you really are going to reduce every post to a bout of sanctimonious sarcasm then maybe you should not post.
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Dont buy the sun, out of everyone on here your head seems to screwed on the most, bar mine obv :)
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