16 Sep 2011 11:27:29
Ghando Floss that date (September 11th) seems to be cropping up as a historical date to remember.
Have you got any more infobites like that?
Cheers,
Raz
Sorry, Ghandi**
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Sorry not at the moment but i could research into it. BTW are you a muslim Raz? :D
Ghandi Floss
Ghandi Floss
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No mate.
How come?
Raz
How come?
Raz
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Just wondering mate because im a muslim :D
Ghandi Floss
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I see :-)
In honesty I'm atheist, have been all my life really...
I have found there is more distrust, spin, cover-up, truth-bending and moral preaching in religion than anywhere else in the world and unless you simply 'decide' like I could so easily have done to follow a religion thrust upon me (which has just never been in my nature) it is impossible to know which to follow without studying each one to it's very beginnings. Maybe one day I will.
An example of why I happily turn my back on it rather than get involved with one only to find out it could all be a lie:
I believe the theory of evolution. I do not believe that God created man. I will never ever be swayed on that, perhaps because I just cannot fathom any other creation. Then you hear in Islam that they believe the first ploy of the Illuminati etc is to make people think here is no God- that the theory of evolution was invented deliberately to put a knife in religion. So for someone who was not born into a religious family, who was obsessed with evolution, dinosaurs and the like when I was a kid, and the forces of nature, where am I supposed to start?
Others will naturally say the bigger truth I must learn is that we, nature and this planet WERE created by the one God, the creator.
I simply cannot fathom that. And if I am 100% honest I feel there are millions out there who are the same, but who still follow their religion anyhow.
In the Arrivals, it was pretty even-keeled for the first half of the series. However, the second half de-generates into a serious pro-Muslim affair, whilst being very careful to be accepting of any religion so long as they all follow one god (with Muslim apparently being the first and original religion)...so if I am not Muslim at all, how can I see this as anything other than pro-Muslim propogada?
It is just impossible. In the eyes of Islam, the fact that I fail to fathom everything around me is created by God means 'they' are already winning....
I am an adult now, and am not sure if I will suddenly change my atheism to something else. I certainly will not respond to propaganda in the way it wishes, I have never been like that at all, so The Arrivals certainly isn't going to convert me, but it is extremely interesting.
Raz
In honesty I'm atheist, have been all my life really...
I have found there is more distrust, spin, cover-up, truth-bending and moral preaching in religion than anywhere else in the world and unless you simply 'decide' like I could so easily have done to follow a religion thrust upon me (which has just never been in my nature) it is impossible to know which to follow without studying each one to it's very beginnings. Maybe one day I will.
An example of why I happily turn my back on it rather than get involved with one only to find out it could all be a lie:
I believe the theory of evolution. I do not believe that God created man. I will never ever be swayed on that, perhaps because I just cannot fathom any other creation. Then you hear in Islam that they believe the first ploy of the Illuminati etc is to make people think here is no God- that the theory of evolution was invented deliberately to put a knife in religion. So for someone who was not born into a religious family, who was obsessed with evolution, dinosaurs and the like when I was a kid, and the forces of nature, where am I supposed to start?
Others will naturally say the bigger truth I must learn is that we, nature and this planet WERE created by the one God, the creator.
I simply cannot fathom that. And if I am 100% honest I feel there are millions out there who are the same, but who still follow their religion anyhow.
In the Arrivals, it was pretty even-keeled for the first half of the series. However, the second half de-generates into a serious pro-Muslim affair, whilst being very careful to be accepting of any religion so long as they all follow one god (with Muslim apparently being the first and original religion)...so if I am not Muslim at all, how can I see this as anything other than pro-Muslim propogada?
It is just impossible. In the eyes of Islam, the fact that I fail to fathom everything around me is created by God means 'they' are already winning....
I am an adult now, and am not sure if I will suddenly change my atheism to something else. I certainly will not respond to propaganda in the way it wishes, I have never been like that at all, so The Arrivals certainly isn't going to convert me, but it is extremely interesting.
Raz
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