15 Nov 2013 06:17:36
My Mrs watched the JFK programme with me last night. I was shocked at how little she knew. Were from the same town (in relation to the post the other day, i'm from Luton - I know. Sigh. ) but as far as she knew, the magic bullet theory etc was gospel. She had never even seen the footage before i. I went to a Catholic school which was not funded by the local council where as she was. We covered the conspiracy theories where as she had never heard of them. Is the curriculum that different in the same town? She is in her early twenties and I am only a few years older. Bud a night on youtube and some puzzled looks. On the plus side, I got to use my laser pointer. Every cloud, you know.
{Ed033's Note - Talking about the channel 5 JFK documentary, this was an old theory from the 1990s that was quickly debunked as utter rubbish back in the 1990s but as usual main stream media will never show any real 'smoking gun' evidence.
The best book on the JFK assassination is Jim Marrs' book, Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy
Oliver Stone's movie, JFK is good to watch to see some of the evidence
The below short video shows you some real 'smoking gun' evidence that only a power higher than JFK could have ordered the security away from JFK so any theory saying it was just Oswald or just The Mafia or just Lyndon B. Johnson is clearly wrong.
John F Kennedy's bodyguards ordered away from JFK in Dallas
The best book on the JFK assassination is Jim Marrs' book, Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy
Oliver Stone's movie, JFK is good to watch to see some of the evidence
The below short video shows you some real 'smoking gun' evidence that only a power higher than JFK could have ordered the security away from JFK so any theory saying it was just Oswald or just The Mafia or just Lyndon B. Johnson is clearly wrong.
John F Kennedy's bodyguards ordered away from JFK in Dallas
Well what you get taught in school is a complete fraud anyway, it makes you think that the people that get demonized on mainstream media today were probably demonized by books hundreds of years ago that we read in schools over the years.
on the jfk bodyguard orders, I seen them talk public for the first time last year and they all claim that jfk told them to move so the public could get a better look, I am not saying I believe it but that's what one of them said, some of them looked choked and one of them was a alcoholic who was not in the documentary.
on the jfk bodyguard orders, I seen them talk public for the first time last year and they all claim that jfk told them to move so the public could get a better look, I am not saying I believe it but that's what one of them said, some of them looked choked and one of them was a alcoholic who was not in the documentary.
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What are peoples thoughts on the umbrella man? What would someone be doing there, on a clear day, with an umbrella?
I read the results of the September 1975 Senate intelligence committee testimony by Charles Senseney, where he admitted the CIA had an umbrella gun, that could shoot a paralyzing agent in the form of a dissolving dart. They claimed it was for use on guard dogs, but they never offered an explanation on why the weapon required spec document mentioned the darts capability of piercing light clothing.
This is the transcript of the hearing:
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/church/reports/vol1/pdf/ChurchV1_6_Senseney.pdf
Start around page 160. Important page 177.
Zari
I read the results of the September 1975 Senate intelligence committee testimony by Charles Senseney, where he admitted the CIA had an umbrella gun, that could shoot a paralyzing agent in the form of a dissolving dart. They claimed it was for use on guard dogs, but they never offered an explanation on why the weapon required spec document mentioned the darts capability of piercing light clothing.
This is the transcript of the hearing:
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/church/reports/vol1/pdf/ChurchV1_6_Senseney.pdf
Start around page 160. Important page 177.
Zari
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I have seen the oliver stone, JFK film and showed her the scene where he met up with the former agent who backs what you said about agents being told to stand down. It insults our intelligence that they think we believe their fantasy stories.
I saw the ventura, jfk conspiracy episode where he tries to recreate the gun shots. He's a former marine and he could get no where near the times stated with any sort of accuracy. 50 years on and the lies continue. Way of the world sadly.
I saw the ventura, jfk conspiracy episode where he tries to recreate the gun shots. He's a former marine and he could get no where near the times stated with any sort of accuracy. 50 years on and the lies continue. Way of the world sadly.
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Ed33 well said, Marrs is my bible, well on this subject anyway.
Zari I've always found that dude with the brolly to be suspicious as well.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but even though the Pres is CinC the Secret Service can overrule him on grounds of security as nominally they are in charge?
Mort
Zari I've always found that dude with the brolly to be suspicious as well.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but even though the Pres is CinC the Secret Service can overrule him on grounds of security as nominally they are in charge?
Mort
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Hey Mort.
The secret services authority is drawn from the USA (United States of America), the federal entity, so it should not be able to override the CinC decisions.
The CIA on the other hand, draws its authority from the USA (UNITED STATES OF AMERICA), the corporate entity. As the corporate entity USA rules the federal entity USA, the CIA has the power to override the CinC.
I think JFK was assassinated because he fired Allen Dulles and talked "privately" about dismantling the CIA.
Zari
The secret services authority is drawn from the USA (United States of America), the federal entity, so it should not be able to override the CinC decisions.
The CIA on the other hand, draws its authority from the USA (UNITED STATES OF AMERICA), the corporate entity. As the corporate entity USA rules the federal entity USA, the CIA has the power to override the CinC.
I think JFK was assassinated because he fired Allen Dulles and talked "privately" about dismantling the CIA.
Zari
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I have swerved all the jfk week on natg on virgin and I am glad I did, after the footy I switched over to catch a bit of drama documentary killing kennedy that's been on all week, after ten minutes I turned it off, it had one scene were oswald on a shooting range, think he shot 5 times in 8 seconds all headshots, then another scene were two cops are talking to ruby about how jfk should be hung or shot and ruby pips up to them "i love the president " after that I had to turn over, would not surprise me if that documentary gets some type of reward.
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Yeah I wasn't sure how that worked, but I would have thought in some circumstances they could overrule him on the grounds that as they provide security they wouldn't allow him to do something daft or risky.
Either way someone that day certainly overruled them. And yes he certainly did annoy a lot of CIA and CIA connected guys.
Mort
Either way someone that day certainly overruled them. And yes he certainly did annoy a lot of CIA and CIA connected guys.
Mort
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