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01 Dec 2011 17:44Discussion #568Talk Sense

01 Dec 2011 18:43:43
letsrollforums.com/mystery-passengers-planes-911-t20439.html
this is a good 9/11 forum, very longwinded but some interesting stuff this thread is the best ive come across in highlighting how sceptical the 'passengers' stories are, details wrong on the liscenses they found etc.

01 Dec 2011 22:44

To anyone who is not to clued up on 911 i would suggest the italian documentary ZERO911 , it's on a few of the free documentries sites.

JR

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03 Dec 2011 00:04

{Ed033's note - Anyone not clued up on 9/11 should either watch these video interviews with Dr. Judy Wood

www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=76&part=1
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=76&part=2
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=76&part=3

www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=78&part=1
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=78&part=2
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=78&part=3

or should read Dr. Judy Wood's book, Where Did The Towers Go

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30 Nov 2011 09:16Discussion #567Talk Sense

30 Nov 2011 09:59:04
what do you think of the theory that they used hologram teqhnology at 9/11-no planes?

30 Nov 2011 12:25

This isn't star trek you know. Apart from the fact holograms aren't possible now, let alone 10 years ago, but you would need two ports and one in the sky woudnt be possible

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30 Nov 2011 12:25

Look close at the videos on youtube obvious they were not planes that crashed into the towers.

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30 Nov 2011 13:39

Holograms are possible now mate.

JWalk

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30 Nov 2011 18:47

Correct me if i am wrong but you are saying that they using a non existant trick of the light to crash into 2 tower blocks and collapse them? Ignoring the 100's of witnesses that clerly saw a plane fly into the towers?

I don't believe that we know the full story of that day and agree that some very dodgy things happened but this is one of the more dafter things i have heard. {Ed001's Note - I think the theory is that they used to explosives to collapse them (which they pretty much would have to have done anyway, even if planes had crashed into it), rather than a trick of the light. The trick of the light is allegedly just to fool the eye into believing it was caused by a plane. I am with you though, it is not a theory that makes sense to me at all.}

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30 Nov 2011 19:23

It would be hard to pull off convincingly today, never mind a decade ago.

I egt the idea, but no i don't think it happened like that.

Its called terrorism no matter who did it, and nothing is so terrifying as flying a jumbo in a tower. Even if they had to give it some assistance to come down.

{Ed033's Note - Here is possibly some of the best evidence of no planes on 9/11 at the twin towers

www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=9&part=1
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=9&part=2
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=9&part=3

www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=10&part=1
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=10&part=2
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=10&part=3

www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=25&part=2

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30 Nov 2011 09:16Discussion #566Talk Sense

30 Nov 2011 05:32:09
Chetan Bhagat is poor mans Salman Rushdie and elitists dont want him to succeed!

30 Nov 2011 17:59

Sorry but who is he?

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02 Dec 2011 09:24

Biggest selling english writer from India- new york times and he trends a lot on twitter.

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03 Dec 2011 00:30

He says negative stuff about the so called elite but dont know the reason why

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29 Nov 2011 10:58Discussion #565Talk Sense

29 Nov 2011 11:55:09
That was the terms of the united nations deal ed so blame them. Similar deals have been done in other places. {Ed001's Note - doesn't mean it is fair or right though. You can't blame Palestinians for not wanting to be abused and mistreated and forced into losing their homes and livelihoods.}

29 Nov 2011 17:19

{Ed033's Note - The Balfour Declaration of 1917 allegedly started the ball rolling for the creation of Israel. But at the time there was already a place in Russia the size of Switzerland called Birobidjan that was set up to be the Jewish homeland.}

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29 Nov 2011 17:33

{Ed033's Note - One of the questions is did Britain have the right to take a part of the middle east that was allegedly "occupied" by "Arab" peoples and give it to someone else to create Israel even when there was another place that was assigned for Jewish people to go called Birobidjan?

The answer maybe whether the alleged covenant with "god" is real

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29 Nov 2011 20:33

Ed33 how safe would this Birobidjan place have been given that at the time Russia was the most anti-Semitic country in Europe and had already carried out several Pogroms?

The Covenant thing, well depends on how religious you are, but certainly many Jews do believe it and it founds most of their claim. How do you disprove something like that in legal terms?

As for the British role, well you have to look at the influence of certain prominent Jewish banker families especially given as by 1917 the war was having a massive effect on the treasury as not only were we paying for own war effort we were also susbidising a large chunk of the Fench, Italian and Russian war efforts and aslo had lost a lot of rpe war trade due to the fact we were fighting one of our largest trading partners.

So i think there was a certain amount of horse trading with a certain group of bankers and that was their price.

{Ed033's Note - I don't know. I was adding to the conversation. Obviously it's too late now and obviously the ruling class did what they did for their own reasons.}

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30 Nov 2011 17:59

Ok cheers Ed

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29 Nov 2011 10:47Discussion #564Talk Sense

29 Nov 2011 11:46:11
Ed the united nations split the place in half they just had to move into the arab areas but their fellow arabs didn't want them. Not saying they should just lie down just that they brought a lot of it on themselves. Is blowing up cafe's justified? Think of it from the jewish perspective six million of the people went up in smoke they go to their ancestors home land and the first thing the neighbours say is we're going to finish the job. I'm not saying i agree with everything they've done but both sides are as bad as each other and only one side gets demonised {Ed001's Note - you are missing the point, the Israelis were also utilising terrorism to force people to move out of their homes. If someone said to you to get out of your home, would you just accept it?}

29 Nov 2011 17:19

{Ed033's note - One of the problems is the alleged covenant with "god". A covenant is a contract that can't be broken.}

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29 Nov 2011 10:29Discussion #563Talk Sense

29 Nov 2011 11:28:03
Well the palestinians started it. They were the ones who wouldn't accept the 1947 deal and went running to their neighbours and all got their butts kicked. {Ed001's Note - the Israelies took their land by force and kicked them out of their homes, did you really think they should accept that willingly?}

29 Nov 2011 10:58

Good reply ed, some people dont have a clue

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29 Nov 2011 17:19

The mainstream media say stuff and people just believe it without questioning it such as that the Palestinians started it

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29 Nov 2011 20:02

Or maybe people should research things themselves:

"In 1947, the British government announced it would withdraw from the Mandate of Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews. The newly created United Nations approved the Partition Plan for Palestine (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on 29 November 1947, which sought to divide the country into two states”one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was designated to be an international city”a corpus separatum”administered by the UN.

The Jewish community accepted the plan, but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee of Palestine rejected it. On 1 December 1947, the Arab Higher Committee proclaimed a three-day strike, and Arab bands began attacking Jewish targets. The Jews were initially on the defensive as civil war broke out, but gradually moved onto the offensive."

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29 Nov 2011 23:24

The above quote is from wikipedia lol

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30 Nov 2011 18:09

Yeah it was from wikipedia, its also historical fact. Or are you the original smartarse that came out with the mainstream media comment and didn't like it when i proved you wrong. {Ed001's Note - hardly historical fact, it is one side's view of the moment, not necessarily a fair one. It makes no mention of the original Arab reasoning for the rejection, so provides no balance. The UK was not originally owned by the Brits, it would be a similar thing to thousands of ancient Britons moving in and then telling the local populace to get out of their country. How many would accept that? It is a difficult situation, there is good reason to sympathise with both sides, it is a shame they have never learnt to live together peacefully.}

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28 Nov 2011 23:34Discussion #562Talk Sense

28 Nov 2011 23:49:11
ed why is everyone obsessed with Israel? All muslims want to kill them plus germans hated them?

Azza {Ed001's Note - for one they took their lands with violence and thuggery. For two they keep them with those same methods. I am sure there are other reasons, but I think they are enough to go on with.}

29 Nov 2011 08:37

As regards the 'germans hating them'..this was of course because Hitler needed a group to blame for germany's ills and so he picked on jews..Convinces the people the jews are responsible for their woes (when in fact it was the settlement forced on them after the first world war) and he has his bandwagon. As
regards muslims- don't they hate anyone who isn't a muslim? certainly seems that way
Puzzled

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29 Nov 2011 10:08

Look at the way israel treat palestines and then you will know why there hated

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29 Nov 2011 17:05

I read somewhere that isreal control America???

Azza

{Ed033's Note - It's possibly more like the City of London, Crown Corporation control Israel and USA.}

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01 Dec 2011 09:11

Muslims are lovely people you can't blame all muslims for what a few do if thats the case every one in the west should get the blame for what Hitler did or what the Americans have been doing since
bigfluppy

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01 Dec 2011 17:03

Sorry to bring this up again but Azza have you watched The Arrivals? The significance of Israel is that it is where Zion is to be ruled from.
Raz

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28 Nov 2011 22:40Discussion #561Talk Sense

28 Nov 2011 23:39:11
Whats the full story on HAARP can anyone explain i really do beileve there upto somthing

29 Nov 2011 01:39

{Ed033's Note - Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: H.A.A.R.P. (FULL LENGTH) - www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTvik184IMs

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29 Nov 2011 01:47

{Ed033's Note - Haarp = weather manipulation, mind control and make changes in the space above Earth allegedly See above youtube documentary.}

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28 Nov 2011 17:47Discussion #560Talk Sense

28 Nov 2011 18:35:06
anyone any thots on big cats living and breeding in the scottish wilderness ? apparently ray mears has claimed 2 have seen several and some guy is bringing out a book about it, wis in the scottish sun last week ??

29 Nov 2011 01:54

{Ed033's Note - A number of big cats were released since the Dangerous Animals Act was passed in 1976. If they paired up then obviously they can multiply and still be around in UK.}

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29 Nov 2011 10:58

They're for real - not too long ago, a body was found of one I beleive, looked like a bigger version of a domestic cat with quite a strange face/head. That's all I can remember, it's probably the odd dangerous pet that's mated with domestic or feral cats to form a new mutation or new species.

RED_SKY {Ed001's Note - in Australia, domestic cats go feral and grow to over twice the normal size of a house cat. It is perfectly possible it could have happened here.}

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02 Dec 2011 12:35

Been a few big cat sightings where i live.
(nottinghamshire/derbyshire)

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28 Nov 2011 13:14Discussion #559Talk Sense

28 Nov 2011 13:53:20
What's people thoughts on the Knights Templar?

28 Nov 2011 17:47

The knights Templar interesting got to big for their own good i would say or they found something that they could use against the church but where condemned by a broke king and a crooked pope . but their fabulous wealth was never found lots of myths about them. Knights Templar where archaeologist as well as skilled warriors saw a program a while bk where the found evidence of them digging under the temple mound n Jerusalem , it was said that they found treasures like nothing found before or after lots of speculation about what they found like the ark of the covenant or the holy grail i personally dont believe they found anything of great significant's but it makes for a great story that captures your imagination really but none the less i like how they came from nothing to be bigger than the church they started one of the fist banking systems but where very secretive and i think thats what eventually done them in s they where very wealthy so wealthy that the king of france and the pope conspired to bring them done for their money but who knows really what they ended for all makes for a great story in the end

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28 Nov 2011 17:47

Nice bunch of people, very badly treated.

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29 Nov 2011 12:46

The full name of the Order is Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon.The Templars were rumoured to have found either the Holy Grail or the Ark of the Covenant at their home in Jerusalem. They were also said to have been in possession of a piece of the 'True Cross', which was captured by Saladin.
They were bankers for the rich including Kings, Popes and statesmen all over Europe and Middle East. Some degrees in freemasonry relate to them they are the 12th and 13th degrees (the rites of Knight Templar and Royal Arch of Solomon) so with that connection you could argue that there might also be one to the Illuminati.

Daz

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01 Dec 2011 22:09

I do believe that the holy grail is in scotland

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07 Dec 2011 09:20

Is it King Kenny?

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27 Nov 2011 11:48Discussion #558Talk Sense

27 Nov 2011 12:41:04
What's the conspiracy talk's view on a wrestling talk subject: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElA7ZoeoBok

we've come up with a couple opinions, please share if you have any

Steve EFC

28 Nov 2011 10:47

With all due respect mate, I don't think anyone cares - that's why you've got your own wrestling page.

On here, people discuss global economy etc, not greased up actors performing to a script. There is nothing conspiracy-related about it, everything is planned and scripted.

I did check it out though, being someone who was a fan of wrestling as a kid - I did enjoy reading the theories on there and it wiled away a couple of hours of my time.

But yeah, it is what it is - would you post something on here about the plotlines in Eastenders? Didn't think so.

RED_SKY

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28 Nov 2011 12:49

Does anyone else think the plot lines on eastenders have a NWO agenda ? jr

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28 Nov 2011 17:47

Yeah if it means Nagging Women Only...

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28 Nov 2011 18:55

Is there a plot line to Eastenders?

Puzzled

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27 Nov 2011 09:32Discussion #557Talk Sense

27 Nov 2011 09:18:46
Wonder if anyone on here can shed some more light on something i watched last night. Channel 203 on sky had a program detailing how cancer cells can be destroyed using cannaboids found in cannabis. The program said the us government has known about this since 1974. From a government stand point seems like they havent 'enlightened' anyone about this because of massive over population in my opinion.

27 Nov 2011 19:27

True, but then think of the money they would make from legalisation.

Tax.
VAT.
Prescription charges.

I'm sure they are more.

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27 Nov 2011 19:27

Maybe because you can not pannet it , the drug companys dont like natural medience , and they dont really care about a cure for illness , most drugs and pills people take dont cure anything they just treat the side affects of a illness...........lfc

{Ed033's Note - There is a good documentary on this subject - Run From The Cure, The RicK Simpson Story - 1 hour documentary showing that using a specific type of hemp oil can be used for medicinal purposes - www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI

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27 Nov 2011 19:34

I watched a video recently on you tube called Run for the Cure.
Its about this subject and the man says he has cured everything people have asked him to by taking an extract from cannibas .
He also alleges that the US government have tried to shut down his operation.

Lurgan Red

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28 Nov 2011 17:47

A scientist/Botanist cant remember her name discovered that if you get certain plants and boil them the juice from the plants can cure diabetes, cancer, asthma etc and had 100% results proving it was basically a miracle cure, she took her findings to the medical board and they took her doctorate from her put the plants she used on the endangered list burnt her offices and banned her from botany...Cancer drugs are the 2nd biggest money spinner to class A drugs...Just shows you that money is more important than the average mans health to some people anyway

MJ

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28 Nov 2011 17:51

Surely she could have kicked up some sort of stink, thats a disgrace.

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