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Discussion #544Talk Sense

23 Nov 2011 18:56:54
Has anyone been watching the Leveson enquiry?

I know we slate the politicians and the bankers and rightly so, but the journalists are just as bad from what i've seen so far. Totally reprehensible some of the stuff they have done. And to ordinary people as well such as the Dowlers and the McCanns.

I know the celebs are seen as fair game, the price of fame and all that, but the desperate lengths they have gone to just to get a scoop is shocking and surely even a celebrity's entitled to some sort of privacy.

 

Slightly off topic, but i don't think the McCanns are really in a position to give an opinion on the integrity of others.

Paragon
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Why Paragon? {Ed001's Note - they left small children on their own while they buggered off out for the night. I wonder if they had not been doctors would they have been prosecuted for neglect?}
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Thanks Ed, thats primarily what i meant.

But for some reason i can't shake off the idea that the parents and friends (and i mean in a very sinsister way) are somehow involved in something larger than their professional capacity.

Paragon {Ed001's Note - I really wouldn't want to speculate, but at the very least they should be ashamed of themselves for leaving a small girl to fend for herself while they went out for the night.}
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They know dam well what they did. Poor little girl. The pair of em look like they have been living well. Plenty of money and still goin on with the hunt for maddy. there loads a kids go missing but they dont get a mention....but still these two are in the limelight and on tv. It's a shame such an effort isn't put in for all the other kids..

Matty b
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The woman is cold.........I can understand keeping calm and matter of fact when under pressure but she is way,way to cold.....
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Discussion #543Talk Sense

23 Nov 2011 03:03:06
"Facism was not defeated, it just changed address!"
I heard a CIA whistle blower say this in a documentary i saw awhile ago, and watching whats
going on around the world now and looking at our(the west) real history over the last 66 years i think he nailed it.
While i realize the calculated manipulation of the masses goes back way further than ww2 i think the U.S have become more and more NAZI -like as the years go by. Whats more disturbing is they no longer give a s**t if their excuses for aggression are remotely plausible or not, WMDs , are they f*****g
joking ?
Iran is the next big one, and if you think they are wary of Russia , they are not, they are surrounding it. There is hope yet though , and it"s not China .It is the people of U.S and U.K themselves ,if enough people refuse to comply in key areas i.e transport,labour,production and any other support(moral or physical) for the military, we might have a outside chance of avoiding a holocaust. I know this might offend, but i beleive goverments and there media lackys have cynically hijacked peoples sympathies away from civilian casualties of war and towards our own armed forces, using a barrage of one-sided tv shows and constant appeals for Help for Heroes. Some people are no longer protesting western aggression for fear of seeming un-patriotic or ungratful for the sacrifices made by servicemen whilst "protecting our freedoms' . We keep getting manipulated, just like the German public did in the pre-ww2 years, which brings me full circle l believe. Anyway 50/50 on ww3 in the next 3 years i think. JR

 

You've got a damn good point here bud and hats off to you for having the ba**s to post it, It's obvious to anyone with half a brain what the US have been doing for years now. Personally I think America is the most dangerous country in the world but it gets hidden by the media .... HERBIE
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Of course America is the most dangerous country in the world

That's what propaganda is for?

It starts at a young age with Disney then continues with hollywood
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Or maybe that's what you are supposed to be believe.

They've created America to be like this big bad boogeyman to scare people.

So now your all riled up against America, thinking their behind everything, thinking you've woken up to a big conspiracy and you have it all figured when actually your still looking in the wrong direction. The yanks are just as much puppets as the rest of us are.
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America was created for one purpose, to create the dictatorship of the elite. To create a place where the bankers could operate without restrictions or checks and they could best to it under a cloak of democracy, some to keep the peasants entertained.

Then they create world wars which as bankers they profit from. They create popular mass movements such as fascism and communism to keep the masses distracted and when these movements become a threat to "democracy" the people can demand war to "protect" "freedom" and "democracy" and this is how these wars are sold, but in reality it is to strenghten the elite and make the bamkers richer with more control. Just look at the end of the war. The creation of the UN, the Bretton Woods treaty. it is all about control.

Now we have a new "enemy" fundamentalist islam and the rebirth of an old "enemy" in China/ Russia.

And the people either rage against these "enemies" or their own politicians not realising the politicias dont run anything. Some people rage against the bankers.

The matrix is real people, not that we are plugged into a machine, but that the world we think we know does not exist, it has been created to fool us and stop us from knowing the reality, that we are but slaves.
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Why you all blowing everything out of proportion, if you think about things to long you'll start getting ideas in your head thinking it's right.
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Discussion #542Talk Sense

22 Nov 2011 19:38:35
Conspiricies? Where do you start? JFK, Elvis, Michael Jackson? Illuminate? New World Order? The Nephilim? Planet Nibiru? Stone Henge? The Pyramids? World War 2? World War 3???

I love a good conspiracy myself, and to be honest if you think too long and hard about any of them then it will just make your head hurt? Humans are inherently selfish to a degree, greed, money, sex, power, control!! You can never have too much.

Its not what you know its who you know, the worlds filled with back scratchers and palm greasers. In short the world is as bent as a fiddlers elbow. We are all educated to believe we live in a society where we have freedom of speech, and to be allowed to form our own opinions.

The only opinion I can establish is that this world is one F****d up place that won't be destroyed by an asteroid or a black hole or a polar shift but by the very beings that inhabit it. Ironically the ones that are allegedly the most inteligent and not the lesser species like animals, reptiles and insects that take only from the earth that which they require to live.

Its pretty simple, theres no profit and no money in a world of total peace where everyone is equal.

 

There's no such thing as totally equal in any species. The strongest and smartest survive while the weak are left to fight for scraps. It's not human nature it is animal nature and regardless of arrogant view that we are something greater we are in fact just animals. If anything we maybe less evolved intellectually than other animals. Dogs can understand our language prettywell( or at the very least are very keen on our nonverbal tendancey's) while we have very little grasp on any other species communication. The only difference is the meak cowardice nature of our species. When a lion feals his liberty is being encrouched upon, he attacks. When a human feels his liberties are being attacked, he picks up a piece of cardboard with generic slogans written upon it and begins singing stuff.

{Ed033's Note - There are theories that humans have been genetically tweaked one or more times to have the traits the tweakers wanted.}
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Yeah ed i actually am of that belief as well, but those higher beings doing the tweaking are but animals their selves. Probably more advanced intellectually but still lacking in the same primal areas
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Dogs don't actually understand our language hey just recognise the sound and respond to it, knowing that their response usually results in them being given a reward. To the same extent we can understand the sound of animals, such as mating calls, warning/distress noises, and growling. Having said all that, I 100% agree with the original poster. Too true.

Adam
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My point was only really to say that conspiracies theories will always exist. Human nature generally dictates that unless you understand something or actually witness it with your own eyes, theres a chance you won't really believe it. Further more every scenario has a multitude of possible outcomes, results or reasons for there own happening based on the randomness of chance, any mitigating curcumstances and pure old coincidence. And as individuals we are all likely to form our own ideas as to why something has happened. Lets face it if the government really knew of the existence of aliens would they tell the public? No. It would cause wide spread panic. If the US government accepted responsibility for the assasination of JFK what would happen? All us theorists would immediately assume all the other theories were true. Where would it end?

Lee
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Wheres the fun in being equal? Thats what competition is for. Theres no ying without yang and all that. You need opposites to make the world go round, duh, polar opposites!
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Discussion #541Talk Sense

22 Nov 2011 18:54:28
Ed

What do you think will happen on December 21st 2012? Do you believe the theories?

G.A.G.U.S
{Ed033's Note - It's highly unlikely anything out of the ordinary will happen on that specific day. Think about it what is so special about that day? I personally believe that there will be no difference between December 20th 2012, December 21st and December 22nd 2012 unless the "negative illuminati" decide to pull a silly stunt.}

 

So Santa will come to me a few days later? ;-)

G.A.G.U.S
{Ed033's Note - Yes, santa always comes.}
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There will be only 3 shopping days left till xmas............lfc
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Isn't something supposed to happen with the magnetic field or am i up the wrong chimney?
{Ed033's Note - The magnetic field is in the middle of shifting, the completion of this current magnetic flip may not take place for up to another 200 years or so, although it may happen much sooner. It is unlikely the completion of the magnetic flip will take place in 2012.}
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Does that mean though that the south pole becomes the north pole? that'd screw up tom tom.
{Ed033's Note - Allegedly this has happened many times before in the past where magnetic north flips to south and vice versa. Doesn't happen on just Earth either.}
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Think i read a book on it once. somthing called earth crust deplacement theory by charles hapgood is it? Think they used it in the film 2012, book was by someone called rand flem-ath, canadian geezer who's convinced atlantis is in the antartcic, his website is worth cheecking out.

{Ed033's Note - Could be but the Earth is more likely growing - video showing how the earth has been growing - www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ&feature=related
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Discussion #540Talk Sense

22 Nov 2011 16:06:42
does anyone know why people were advertising on tv to buy our old gold?

Azza
{Ed033's Note - This started a few years back. It could be as innocent as realising the price of gold is going to continue to rise and is an attempt to buy low then sell higher at a later date.}

 

Mr T wants a new neck chain so his master plan was to buy all the gold through various companies he invented

MJ
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Ed033 - what about phones?

Azza
{Ed033's Note - phones contain precious metals. Silver has also gone up in value loads as well as gold in comparison to currencies. Precious metals hold their value over time. An ounce of gold today buys the same as it did 2000 years ago or more. It's individual currencies that are being devalued which makes precious metals appear to go up in value.}
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The precious metal market is monitored and supply is restricted to inflate prices. Demand is at an all time high due to the ever changing electronics industry. Circuit boards contain Gold, Silver, Copper, Ruthenium, Palladium and Iridium to provide fast conducive non-corrosive materials for electronics to function properly. They are used in small amounts within these devices so what a single person holds in their hand is in fact worthless, but when you start adding up hundreds of cell phones or circuit boards in general the quantity of precious metals is quite evident.
Just like the Oil Industry the price of precious metals are controlled by the companies that mine them. China is the largest producer of Gold and it is also the largest importer just ahead of India.

Daz
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Discussion #539Talk Sense

22 Nov 2011 14:15:33
Editor or anyone infact, we should be utilising facebook to educate and enlighten people, you should do a version of this page, i reckon it would spread like wildfire, joe public wont even think about anything other than everyday stuff unless its right under there nose, have any of you thought about doing a facebook page like this?, has anyone attempted it and it got closed down maybe?

ZOLA {Ed001's Note - I don't even use FB, I really can't see the point in doing this as an FB page myself.}

 

Zola I don't know if you're aware but there are already several pages on facebook e.g. Chemtrails which deal solely with conspiracies. I might add that doing something like this on facebook immediately makes is a sort of parody of itself too. Facebook is a social networking site currently being ruined by all the business pages and whatever else anyway, let's keep things like this off things like that no?
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Completley disagree with both, i think if your switched on and awake its almost your duty to try and give other people information to make there own minds up, and theres is literally no better, fatser or effective way to do it than facebook, im forever posting links and videos, now a lot of my friends share my views, a lot dont but at least theyre making there own informed decisions. Second poster, i know there is specialist ones that just deal with one thing like the chemtrails, i mean a broader one with variety. Well regardless i feel obliged to educate people so il continue to utilise facebook. People sit on it all day why not make the most out of a bad thing

ZOLA
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"Completley disagree with both, i think if your switched on and awake its almost your duty to try and give other people information to make there own minds up"

That may be how you feel mate and fair enough but not every does think it's their duty to do anything like that. It's equally up to the individual to go and do their homework.

Also, Chemtrails is called Chemtrails but it isn't even really about Chemtrails any more. They cover every single conspiracy going, you name it, they have probably cover it and they constantly upload links and pics/vids. It is a broad one wit variety, you should check it out.

Raz
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Facebook is for people with no life and false friends

MJ
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Don't hold back MJ. Its been useful for tracking some people i haven't seen since i left school, or lost touch with after Uni. But yeah i wouldn't put something like this on there. Something like this your only going to find if your looking for it, and who goes on FB to look for conspiracies? IF the orginal chap wants to put stuff out there then thats up to him and good luck. Mort
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Discussion #538Talk Sense

22 Nov 2011 12:33:52
What's in Area 51?

{Ed033's Note - An underground base with tunnels leading to other underground bases

 

How do you know that ed ?? None of us know what's really happening and prob never Will....

Matty b {Ed001's Note - there is plentiful evidence to make that the most likely occurrence.}
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Correct ed but not hard evidence. Mostly just peoples word. Not that I'm disagreeing with you but I'm sure you know where I'm coming from. I have watched do many interviews and read so many books on the whole UFO/alien thing. It really does blow your mind......I love hoaglands stuff and project camalot do dome hood work I just don't like the pair of em....bill says erm so many times it drives me crazy..

Matty b
{Ed033's Note - That's ok, I think Bill and kerry are great at interviewing. I certainly couldn't do anywhere near as well as either of them.
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Ed33 was design chief there for awhile.
{Ed033's Note - Are you confusing me with Bob Lazar?}
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You mean your not Bob Lazar?
{Ed033's Note - Bob Lazar allegedly said at Area 51, they mess with your memories and that's one of the reasons why he left. So I could have been at Area 51 and not know it but that means you could have been there also.
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Indeed i could. I'm pretty sure i wasn't. Do you think they have those flashy things like in Men In Black or is it a bit more drug based or other method of memory modifying? Imagine if they started doing it on a larger scale? Could really mess things up.
{Ed033's Note - I don't know but some people are saying we are already being bombarded with frequencies that mess us up.}
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Discussion #537Talk Sense

22 Nov 2011 10:55:06
i'll be the first to mention it then. Whats everybody's favourite theory on jfk

 

The last gun shot to the head was done by the driver the evidence and video proof is there.
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It wasn't done by the driver! Don't tell me you watched those pathetic youtube videos and concluded that, PLEASE! Unbelievable how many people have done that. If you watch those videos again, that footage clearly shows the sun reflecting off the front passenger's head! And everyone thinks it's the driver's hand holding a gun, it's an absolute joke. And what, I suppose the front passenger just didn't see it? Come on, at least use your brain!
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JFK was actually hit by 5 bullets from different angles

MJ

{Ed033's Note - A bit more to add to the stuff we think we already know about the JFK conspiracy - Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura JFK assassination death bed confession Full length version - www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbVnTtRsQF8
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If you watch the film the government actually tried to state that the one and only bullet swerved into JFK numerous times due to wind currents its quite amusing

MJ
{Ed033's Note - Yes the magic bullet theory that makes no sense and is also discussed in Oliver Stone's movie, JFK to be a ridiculous theory that was put forward by the government investigation.}
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Ah but as Costner said the govt can prove it, they have a special lab......

{Ed033's Note - Yes a special mendacity lab.}
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Discussion #536Talk Sense

22 Nov 2011 03:41:25
A PLAN FOR AWAKENING THE MASSES
It is my belief that people will only rise up against tyranny when they are at their most outraged and helpless. The current powerstructure is moving swiftly toward a financial imbalance that can't be sustained. At the current pace by the time all pieces are in place the card will be stacked against the common man so that he can't acqiure the tools and supplys to combat the power. I feal the only solution is for the enlightened few to start a shadow conspiracy that will expediate public outrage. Rather than rail against the powers that be and device plans to combat their exponential grow, we attack each other in the guise of the establishment. Hack the finanacial institutions not redistribute wealth but to further rob the little man. This will outrage the public enough to rise up

 

SO what you're saying is start the fight with those in the same boat as us and pretend it was the enemy? I don't think so.
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Hey Guys, when you guys talk about 'awakening the masses', what do you mean? Should I be aware of something? What do we need to wake up to, and what would be your thoughts on the solution/alternative?
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Ah! A cunning plan indeed Baldrick.

JR
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Discussion #535Talk Sense

22 Nov 2011 00:52:01
Dr. Peter Duesberg - Re-thinking AIDS
- www.youtube.com/watch?v=fELMm5mAeXU

 

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Discussion #534Talk Sense

21 Nov 2011 22:59:05
{Ed033's Note - Extraterrestrial mummy found in cusco peru? Click on picture for larger image

Extraterrestrial mummy found in cusco peru

 

{Ed033's Note - Some more possible alien / extraterrestrial skulls found on planet Earth. Click on image for larger image

Alien Skulls found on Earth

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People have been doing that to their children for thousands of years they bind their skulls so that is basically until it elongated like in those pitchers ... but why ? could they have seen such beings with elongated skulls
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To the last poster i know that some races back in the day made their childrens heads that shape so thet mimicked the gods(aliens) but how the hell did they make the horny skull thats gotta be impossible

MJ
{Ed033's Note - The question is why would people attempt to elongate the heads of children in the first place and MJ has given the most likely answer and that is to mimic extraterrestrials that had elongated heads. If people are interested they can type things like "conehead skulls" into their favourite search engine to find out more.}
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To be honest thats the only theory that makes sense, they saw a "god" and tried to alter themselves to honour the "gods" didn't Indiana 4 touch on this slightly? Mort.
{Ed033's Note - yes}
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And the aliens were coneheads, i know a lot of people didn't like it as a film but it did explain a lot of odd stuff from down South America. Mort.
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Discussion #533Talk Sense

21 Nov 2011 21:08:47
i might rumble a few people here but i hope not. but i really think that religon is the biggest conspiracy, catholics, prodestants, muslims, jews, hindoos them all. churches, moscks, chapels have all suppost to help the unfortunate but no they all sit on a big big sums of cash why cant the spend it and help the people or invest it on sumthing that they wont lose cash or not much and it helps the people that they have suppost to be helping. and if it wasent for religon then the world would not have half as many wars, its shocking!

ufo hunter

p.s my first post on here

 

Welcome UFO Hunter, don't worry this has been spoken about a lot and most of us will probably agree with you.
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