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Discussion #532Talk Sense

21 Nov 2011 18:13:53
what are these mysterious lines in the Gobi desert?

www.talkconspiracy.co.uk/ar_9.php

{Ed033's Note - Strange

strange lines in gobi desert

 

Well it looks like at school when you do your own stained glass window using sugar paper, tape and either coloured tissue paper or plastic..

Haven't a clue, how bizarre.
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{Ed033's note - Above, this is a google earth image from satellite by the way if you didn't know.}
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Is this real or you just taking the mick lol

Irish Red
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Hugh Grants good friends at the Daily Mail, have reported what it is

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2062456/Gobi-Desert-Google-Map-mystery-explained-Objects-likely-spy-satellite-targets.html
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This was all over the news about a week ago Irish Red.... google images busted it wide open.

Raz
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Discussion #531Talk Sense

21 Nov 2011 18:08:58
Hackers allegedly take out US water treatment systems

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15817335

seem the possible attack came from within Russia. Those sneaky Russians.

 

"The going in hypothesis is always that it's just an incident or coincidence," she said. "And if every incident is seen in isolation, it's hard - if not impossible - to discern a pattern or connect the dots."

"Failure to connect the dots led us to be surprised on 9/11," she said.

Lani Kass, a former advisor to the US Joint Chiefs of Staff on security issues

And so it begins, next comes a very strong "its was not us and how dare you accuse us of such a thing" from the Russians, the media will have field day.
Hopefully this time people see through the lies and don't cry out for war, without knowing the facts like they did with Afghanistan.

always a red
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I don't think any normal person is crazy enough to cry for war against Russia.

That said how do we know that it wasn;t the Russians, this sort of stuff does go on and it is usally them or the Chinese. The company i work at was crippled for a week by a computer virus that originated in China, the techs traced it back that far then lost it. Couldn't prove anything and they would never admit to it anyway, but there is a war going on in cybersoace and both sides are doing this kind of thing.

As i said, the Russians could have done it. Maybe it was retaliation for something the yanks did, sort of show them that what they can do can be done to them as well. After all we've only heard half the story there.
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Discussion #530Talk Sense

20 Nov 2011 23:15:40
What is an ouija board ed? {Ed003's Note - It's a bit like a scrabble board but round and it really doesnt matter where you place your letters }

 

{Ed033's Note - The ouija board can be used to "communicate" with "spirits" and are very dangerous to mess with.}
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A few years back not to far away from from my house 6 fella's messed with 1 and within 3 weeks they were all killed. Two drowned in a lake , three in a car crash and and the last fella killed him self but this is the most freaky part. He had written on the wall in blood ''Stop talking to me ''

Irish Red
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Irish Red

Where about was that? I'm Irish myself!

G.A.G.U.S
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Irish red

Im irish 2 where outs was it im curious not douting just curious
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It happened in tipperary about 30 years ago. Im sure you could find it on google.

PS... If you find something could you post a link so if anyone else wants to look at it

Irish Red
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Discussion #529Talk Sense

20 Nov 2011 22:51:18
wow i just saw the ed's argument on the catholics. First off to the guy no one was demonising catholics. And if i were there was far more people could have said. Don't be so touchy. All we were saying was that religions all talk about helping the poor yet they are all sat on assets worth millions if not billions. Both the vatican and the anglican church own huge amounts of land, property, how about donating all the candlesticks for the cause. Does the good book not state that a place of worship should be plain to greater reflect the glory of god? Seems the vatican have forgotten this. What about the vatican archives and the art collection. Priceless works of art. Angels and demons only hinted at what lies in there. Yet they are shut away helping nobody. Even if they built a museum and put them all on exhibit it would help. Many would pay to see such wonders. Lastly the ed was right on the vatican helping war criminals to escape to south america. Try google and look it up. There's a proper name for it but it escapes me.

 

Seeing as the Pope is supposed to be in Jesus' place until he returns, the pope should do as Jesus would and give all the money away and follow God
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Considering vatican, how much truth is there about mary magdalene and vatican's efforts to hush-hush christ marriage so that church's control doesn't go to jesus's heir
U.P.
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Wow just seen that argument you were referencing. To that poster let me remind you that no man is infallable. And when followed blindly, especially in the name of religion, great travesties occur. You compared spaeking out against the Catholic church to the Holocaust. Wow. Actually you're blind adherrence to Papal authority is more akin to the Nazi movement than anything you mentioned. I'm sure there were threats of "say that about Hitler in Hamburgh" during the 40's. You're wide eyed optimismn in you're religious leaders in enlightening and alarming. The fact that such fervor can still be found is shocking.
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To the nameless poster above....Who are you to question anybody's faith to whichever God the person has chosen. What I find alarming is your attitude to someone sticking up for what he/she truly believes. Whether he has went the right or wrong way is neither here nor there but you are in no position to question anybody's faith in their chosen religion. Your post is verging on religious intolerance, can you prove there is not God, Catholic or other wise? No you can not, and trying to belittle/browbeat people over their beliefs is as 'Nazi' as it comes. It is you who seems to be trying to force your views on people because of their faith or religion. If people choose to have faith in their religion what business is it of yours? The RC faith and the Vatican have done a lot more good in this country than the leader of the COE could ever imagine doing.The Pope has devoted his life to a faith he truly believes in while the head of the COE sits and takes taxpayers money to live in a lifestyle we can only imagine. Taxes are paid by law in the UK to keep the head of the COE in her palaces etc, we have no choice in paying their bills as tax payers. From the normal man in the street, the RC church is money we CHOOSE to give, not deemed by some law. You're attitude is shocking but not surprising as you clearly lack respect for other people's views. {Ed001's Note - so the Pope is living in poverty then? *rolls eyes*}
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I never said the Pope was living in poverty, the Vatican's wealth is unimaginable to the normal man.What I said was the the normal choses to give his money to the RC church, he is not forced by law. My point is that nobody has any right to question or discard what another person truly believes in. It is up to the individual person, if they have a faith they are entitled to it, whether others agree is there choice, but nobody should be belittled for having a faith or religion. No matter to which God or deity. {Ed001's Note - try telling that to the people who live in the Vatican, who are forced to pay towards the upkeep of the Pope. I do agree though, people are entitled to decide for themselves whether to believe or not. Though your point about the upkeep of the CofE is just nonsense, nothing is stopping you emigrating to a country that doesn't pay them.}
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Discussion #528Talk Sense

20 Nov 2011 22:28:35
UFO spotted over river Mersey tonight.

 

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Discussion #527Talk Sense

20 Nov 2011 21:13:10
I went a "sleeping Psychic" that studied under one Edgar Cayce's original students. In her trance she foretold that Bob Dylan's soul had vacated his body and Lawerence Welk's spirit had taken over. The next Dylan show I went to he played Piano for a whole set.(first time in 20 years)

 

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Discussion #526Talk Sense

20 Nov 2011 20:17:35
Energy saving bulbs! Short term saving for consumer. Long term, national grid will require major upgrade to cope with power factor swing, cost onto consumer! {Ed001's Note - also they produce a light which is harmful to health, just like those tubes.}

 

{Ed033's Note - The energy efficient light bulbs in your house are ruining your health.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS5ogZxoZ2Y&feature=player_embedded#!
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There is a complete conspiracy, IMHO, of energy saving lamps.
not on the actual energy saving part but on the price and manufacturing of them.
I bet the Government are rubbing their hands at the extra VAT revenue from it. Why not make them VAT free...and on the subject of VAT etc you don't see many car manufactures making LPG cars these days and where are all these fuel pumps for them
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Discussion #525Talk Sense

20 Nov 2011 01:04:07
Do Ghosts exist ED?
{Ed033's Note - I think I'll have to answer in a more complex manner than yes. This will probably take multiple replies as well. It's getting late for me. To my mind there is enough evidence to suggest that when a human body dies the part considered the "soul" continues on.

Another question to ask is who or what are people communicating with when they use a ouija board.}

 

{Ed033's Note - In the 1970's, a group of 8 Canadian parapsychologists attempted to create a ghost using a table. They allegedly achieved this and they appeared on TV as well. It is known as the Philip experiment.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2lGPT2J1cc

and

www.time-loops.net/nostradamus/Experiment_Philip.htm
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{Ed033's Note - I have heard Electronic Voice Phenomena where unless this is faked, appears to show that human voices are heard on tape recordings even though no one was present but the person recording.}
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{Ed033's Note - Chris Everard has produced 2 DVD movies on parts of this subject entitled Spirit World - www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZebSvTU2Lg

and

Spirit World 2 - Alien Kaballah - www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddhJGarJmx0&feature=related
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Hey Ed's and other people. My son's school was built in 1892 and it was a boarding school (all boys) and it massive. It's 3 or 4 stories high but the top is blocked off. This is because there is a ouija board carved into a wall.

Irish Red
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Sorry to go slightly off topic, but what about reincarnation? is that feasible? That the soul survives and is reborn into a new vessel? Might ghosts not just be whilst people are on the "waiting list"?
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Discussion #524Talk Sense

19 Nov 2011 20:27:56
Dont know if this should be posted here but, listening to a radio show early this morning, I thought a very valid point was put accross-
Most know that in FIFA, there are bribes, bungs etc flying about with certain members. Now, in the build up to a world cup etc.. these guys all know before hand which country is going to host an event like the World Cup before its announced. So think that if only a few of these members got 'associates', relatives etc, to put big money on for example, Quatar to host the world cup (outsiders at the time of announcement)n, think of how much money they are making on the side on a certain result which they control. Spread over different bookies , thats a hell of alot of money gained!
Mike

{Ed033's Note - This happens with certain politicians, people behind the scenes and people like Warren Buffett. They get perfect information on which companies will get government contracts so know ahead of time which companies' stocks/shares will rise and can make millions at a time using this inside info.}

 

Would not be a surprise at all. We all know Fifa is bent.
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Discussion #523Talk Sense

19 Nov 2011 19:31:06
On one of David Ickes videos it shows several pictures of Bush with Brown eyes and then bush with green eyes......

Azza {Ed033's Note - I haven't seen that. Although I have heard rumours of eye weirdness with a couple of famous people.}

 

Maybe there were 2 of them and they swapped over....?

Or maybe it was like the man in the iron mask and there was good Bush and bad Bush? {Ed033's Note - Was any Bush ever good?}
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Might have been as child Ed, every kid is innocent, depens what trips his switch, nature or nuture? With him maybe a combination of both, that environment along with that family.

Point i meant what if he got switched for some reason?
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Shapeshifter!!!!!!
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Not all kids are innocent. Remember the two 10 yr olds in Liverpool that kidnapped the baby and tied it to a train track.

Irish Red
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Venables and Thompson, the Bulger case yes. Evil pair of scrotes but again nature or nuture? No-one is born evil, there's something somewhere that tips the balance. Could have been environment, parents, maybe even dna.

Back to Bush as i said given the upbringing in a major political family like that with parents like that a combination of nature and nuture tipped the balance. Bush isn't an evil man, not compared to others, easily led certainly. Gullible, a bit thick in some ways, but quite smart again in others.

The Kennedy's is another example. Family environment, strong paternal personality. Everything has an influence.
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Discussion #522Talk Sense

19 Nov 2011 15:02:40
is colonel gadaffi really dead?was the man savagely beaten then executed a body double?
{Ed033's Note - Who really knows? What I don't get is that allegedly the man who was caught as colonel gadaffi kept a mobile phone on him so NATO knew where he was all the time as they can track anybody with a mobile phone anywhere in the world. Surely gadaffi would have known this even if he was told that he had an "untraceable" phone.}

 

To be fair though Ed if it was a pay as you go he could be tracked but how would they know it's his?
{Ed033's Note - It could be as simple as voice recognition. They know what his voice sounds like and have the technology to compare voices. It is recognised that the standard military have technology that is 10 years ahead of what we have and the black ops / secret government has allegedly technology far more advanced than the standard military.}
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Discussion #521Talk Sense

19 Nov 2011 12:18:05
Why are Germany/ Vatican allowed to get so powerful again? Did history not teach us that these two together, slaughtered millions. Watch for Europe to evolve into 10 kingdoms- UK not in it, they are determined to break up UK. The Beast system is growing before our eyes. Well, the bible did say it would be financial/ religious ..................wonder what bible meant by scarlet and purple, can t think of any religion.............maybe paranoia. noo noo noo noo etc.

{Ed033's Note - Why Germany is so strong now could be because of what Jim Marrs and Dr. Joseph P. Farrell have talked about and put in their books where the german people did lose WW2 but the Nazis did not lose WW2. The Nazis continued and kept their huge amount of money and their black technology and are now in a really powerful position in the world now.

Jim Marrs wrote of book called the Rise of the Fourth Reich

Project Camelot Interview with Jim Marrs on the rise of the 4th reich
www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2v0cu8pQOc

Dr. Joseph P. Farrell wrote a book called Nazi International

Project Camelot interview with Dr. Joseph P. Farrell based on his book Nazi International
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wJboIFKCFU

 

{Ed033's Note - Why the Vatican is allegedly so powerful is because they believe that the Pope stands as "Christ" until "Jesus" returns. The Roman Catholic Church allegedly believe that their Papal Bulls written hundreds of years ago saying such things as all people on earth are "owned" forever more by the Roman Catholic Church, stand as truth because nobody rebutted the Papal Bulls at the time. The Vatican believe that certain Kings in the past handed over ownership of the country and the people to the Roman Catholic Church.
I think the Vatican maybe feeling threatened so is possibly attempting to flex its muscles.}
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And now we have the Nazi Pope as well Ed. Ok ok i know he said he was only in the Hitler Youth because it was compulsory. Which fair enough its true it was. But those kids were pretty much well brain washed by the end of the war. What if deep down some of it is still in there?

He's a lot more reactive compared to his predessor after all.

Just a thought.
{Ed033's Note - This white Pope, Ratzinger is surely a puppet himself only doing and saying what he is told to do and say. When people attempt to interview him "off the cuff", he says things that are consistent with what he has been told to say. But there is an individual personality added to the mix as well.}
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To be honest i've only seen him on the news like the christmas message and stuff like when he was over here. Not being a catholic i don't pay much attention.

I just think he's one of those unfortunate people that have a sinister air to them. You look at some pics of him and he looks like a mass murderer, hes just got this really sinister air if that makes any sense, its the eyes i think.

{Ed033's Note - Ratzinger looks like Emperor Palpatine out of star wars - www.talkconspiracy.co.uk/ar_8.php

Pope Palpatine

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Thanks Ed thats exactly what i mean, he just looks sinister.
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The more i look at that pic the more i get the creeps, thanks Ed.

I can just imagine him, in his throne room, on a swively throne like at the end of ROTJ, taunting some young hopeful.

"I'm looking forward to completing your training. In time, you will call me Master."

Apprentice Monk "huh?"

"Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen."

Monk "are you ok holiness"

"Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design. It was I who allowed the Alliance to know the location of Gaddaffi. It is quite safe from your pitiful little band. An entire legion of my best troops awaits them. Oh, I'm afraid the WMD's will be quite operational when your friends arrive."

Monk "i think his holiness has lost the plot"

"Strike me down with all of your hatred, and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!"

Monk "yes alas he is a fruitcake"

"If you will not be turned... you will be destroyed!" "Your feeble skills are no match for the dark side!"

As the priests all just stand around thinking wish the end of days would hurry up.
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