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Discussion #448Talk Sense

09 Nov 2011 17:40:59
How about this one.
God created the devil because without the fear of the devil god has no value.
Similarly, So called super villians of our world {gaddafis, ladens,etc} are or were created by super heroes/super power.
Even the deadly diseases , viruses are created by people who are supposed to make cures.
and of course its obvious who makes the computer virus, right?
U.P.

 

Until God or the Devil come down and share a bottle of whiskey with me i really cany agree with you mate as there is no proof they exist plus the fact that religion was created by man kind of screws with the idea of them being real...but i kinda agree with your other comments

MJ

MJ
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Regarding religion in general.
Sikh, islam, buddism, christianity, judism et al...there are many beliefs and religions in the world and all of them can't be correct therefore if not one can be right then none of them can be right and therefore no religion no god {Ed033's Note - wow, "not one can be right then none of them can be right and therefore no religion no god", that is some kind of logic. That's a bit like saying. The big bang theory is nonsense, therefore there are no planets, therefore the Earth doesn't exist, therefore i can't be writing this text.}
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Thought you didn't believe in the big bang ed?
stuart {Ed033's Note - I don't, I was just using it as a possible amusing example.}
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So if the big bang theory is not true ed how are you writing your replies lol
stuart {Ed033's Note - I asked dynamo the magian how to write the replies.}
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EVERY religion out there takes story's/exerts from ancient Sumeria and their cuneiform texts telling their story of creation and so on. Doesn't mean that's the true story either, but it is the oldest documentation from an advanced civilisation about our being and origin.
I agree that all modern religions are a sham, and simply used to enforce fear, gain cash and further their own political/religious agenda.
Personally, I find the ancient Sumerian texts more interesting, plus there's no invisible being that there is 100% no proof of in there ever being in the Sumerian texts. It's also more thought provoking and sheds s some light on how advanced these ancient people were.

Peace

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Discussion #447Talk Sense

09 Nov 2011 17:27:17
There's been a fair bit of talk about David Icke being a weirdo and people seem to struggle that Lizard aliens can/do exist, there are over one billion planets 1000s if not millions of years older than our own so why could they not exist as an advanced race...Your opinions are all welcome

Thanks Guys

MJ

 

It was me who asked about icke I was more concerned with his claims on The Isle of Whyte and the Free masons
However I have to say some of his earlier rants do appear to have been miss interpreted but I really don't think there is aliens living among us
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With space being infinite it's obvious to me that there must be many different types of "life" on many different planets. However that doesn't mean that they have ever visited our planet in fact I would suggest it's highly unlikely. Let's face it they would have to be so technologically advanced to be able to achieve that sort of space travel that you would think they would be a little less coy, wouldn't you?

Chris in Tamworth
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Chris lets say you were an alien from a very advanced planet would you come to earth and share your advancements with us we are a race of war mongers and murderers, our sole nature is kill or be killed it would be like giving a loaded machine gun with the safety off to a 4 year old...That is just my opinion though and i Do see where your coming from

MJ
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Not saying Space Lizards from Ceti Alpha V do or don't exist, its just that you can't really prove that they do or don't. have they visited us? Possibly. But as Chris for Tamworth says they'd have to have some immense technology so why be so shy?

As for Icke well its just a convenient stick to bash the bloke with. Unfortunately for him its the one thing poeple associate with him. Mention his name and people will straight away go ah lizards. Its like Elton John and big glasses, its the one thing people associate with him.

And to be fair back in the 80's, with no internet, less access to proof, with the media/ govt being able to surpress things more easily and people just seeming less interested compared to now then he was always going to get ridiculed. Maybe it was a strange one to come out with, maybe he tought he needed to start with a bang.

Mort.
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To answer this question, in a slightly rhetorical way: if the reason we, & all life exists on earth is due to the distance we are from the sun, among other factors (water etc...). The sun is simply a star, now how many stars can be seen with the naked eye? Each one of those stars could have lumps of rock (planets) at a similar distance orbiting them as the Earth is from the sun, and therefore all stars could have life giving planets orbiting them. So.. if the universe is infinite, then there must be infinite variants of life upon them, some maybe vastly ahead of us & some in their infancy, So a life form of intelligent Lizard / reptilian ls more than possible, the idea that David Ickes `shape shifting` lizard - humans, here on Earth, with an ulterior motive is in my opinion, a bit illogical (I do however think Icke talks a LOT of sense), the lizard thing, Im not to sure on that one - sorry.
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Discussion #446Talk Sense

09 Nov 2011 15:27:18
What do people think about sentences...You know
you're given 6 years but everyone knows you'll just
do the 3 (or whatever) what is the point of the original sentence?? It can only be so that the powers that be think we will say - ah 6 years - that's good - and then not notice that that will not be the time served

Puzzled {Ed033's Note - Only a small percentage of the population in their natural comfortable state will actually commit crimes so if you lock up all of the criminals then there is no excuse for the control grid that is being set up. The ruling class have to keep criminals out of prison for crime to take place, which gives the excuse to bring in the total control grid in slowly over time.}

 

Ok but come on Ed033 is EVERYTHING a conspiracy ? {Ed033's Note - No, but how do you explain they have cameras everywhere and the government agencies know everything about everyone. All mobile phones have tracking devices in them. Films you see show the level of technology government agencies have but still crime doesn't go down?

The answer is obvious, the ruling class have to have lots of crime, to bring in the total control grid over a period of time.}
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Argee with ed033 , but also to keep one prisoneer inside each week costs a huge sum of money , this would explain too why they dont just build more prisions , but then again if the poor were treated better there would be less crime , and more fair -pay for the common -man , i mean why should the royals or govement own so much land , why cant people who live work pay taxes not be able to get a peice of land to call their own , its our country , the elite have it all stacked up in their favour, sorry, thought it was the new rant-page for a moment there lol............lfc {Ed033's Note - Exactly, the people should own the land and the natural resources.}
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"films you see show the level if technology government agencies have".
Really?!?! I reckon you think Mel Gibsons Conspiracy Theory is a documentary.
As a previous poster said you do think everything us a conspiracy don't you

Chris in Tamworth {Ed033's Note - I noticed, Chris that you couldn't explain why crime doesn't go down.}
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I think Ed33 makes a lot of sense.

Do we really need all these cameras? Do they have an effect?

Once they get their control system would crime then drop?

Mort {Ed033's Note - Their wet dream is where they have for instance a chip inside everyone which will control each individual. If you checkout the Georgia Guide Stones, you will see their other wet dream is also to reduce the human population to 500 million. By the way, i don't think their wet dreams will come into reality.}
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Crime rates always rise in direct relation to the amount of freedoms stripped from the public. Man is a free beast meant to roam without constraint and rule and the more these rights are infringed upon the more man strays from his natural state, Thusly commiting acts that a sane functioning creature would not.
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Discussion #445Talk Sense

09 Nov 2011 13:09:18
thanks ed 33 for anthony peake interview link on deja vu topic. we could really living in the gruondhog day.
May be it's too much to ask but by any chance you can provide the free download link of his book "is there life after death"
would be a great read
U.P. {Ed033's Note - I don't know of any free download link of his book. If you want to read the book for free, you can go into your local library and ask them to find a copy of the book for you.}

 

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Discussion #444Talk Sense

09 Nov 2011 09:52:33
Dose anyone think we are heading for another huge war and the report of the IAEA on Iran is going to be the trigger?

 

I think there is more chance of that if Iran isn't dealt with BEFORE they master
the business of nuclear weapons AND the
facility to deliver them...but in view of the
name of this site I will add....but perhaps that is what we are being led to believe !

Puzzled
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The only thing(s) stopping us from intervening are Russia and China, we would be in Iran already if it was not for them.

JWalk
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Isreal seem he'll bent on attacking Iran.I think if they do we will all be dragged in and all hell will break loose.isreal know the us will back them and the us know we will back them.and I do believe it won't be long until isreal strike as their president told the news today "the time is getting closer"
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I also think these leaked IAEA reports may be a product of isreal and used as justification to attack Iran.
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I like the way the first reply says "if Iran isn't dealt with" it just goes to show Americas propaganda has worked perfectly, people still see the grand old USA as the white knights coming to kick ass and save the world. They've funded the IRA and Afghan rebels during the 80's but now feel the need to rid the world of these groups.
Its only a matter of time before Fox News (the Neo-Conservative's very own news channel) stir up a frenzy in the States, something along the lines of 'Iran has nuclear missiles aimed at America' hopefully not as many people fall for this lie as last time. I imagine the old Cold War anti Russia stories will rear their ugly head again.
If Israel do attack Iran backed by America/NATO (whatever you wish to call them) that will probably be the spark that ignites the whole world, because then comes Russia maybe China too.
We should all hope nothing of the sort happens, people are starting to wake up seen by the protests, a war would take us back to square one again giving even more power back to the governments.

always a red
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Discussion #443Talk Sense

08 Nov 2011 23:37:57
wake-upbeforeitstoolate(dot)co­m, check out the introduction page to this website! Some excellent info for an introduction into something that is so deep and hard to believe. The Tesla link within it is great for showing what type of w***ers run this world.

JWalk22

 

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Discussion #442Talk Sense

08 Nov 2011 22:55:37
When will the rant page be up eds?
I'm desperate to let off!
Ultra red {Ed033's Note - trying to decide on the domain name then it can be up 24 hours after that

 

Moan of the week aka mock of the week, and the edds decide who is the best moaning git, frankyscouse {Ed033's Note - This could be added when the site is up and running.}
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It should be called the dailt rag
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Domain name? ' I DON'T BELIEVE IT!! '

Puzzled {Ed001's Note - I think that might have been copyrighted.}
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Also programs like 'the mentalist' and 'lie to me' have main characters that use this to help get the bad guys.
huddz red
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Sorry should have been for post below
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Discussion #441Talk Sense

08 Nov 2011 21:44:45
watching dynamo the magian on tv and some of the stuff he does is mad, i reckon he can read minds for real or he is part alien

 

He does cold reading which is basically reading all the liitle signals your body unknowly send out.
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Huddz so your body unknowly can send dynamo there pin number?or a location anywhere in the world that is special to them? frankyscouse
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Deren brown knows how to do it. and yes if he asked you to think of it he could get it. why don't you google cold reading before you get on your high horse to me with your sarcasm. also many psychics have been accused of using it during readings with psychic sally been the latest.
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Huddz(highhorse) if i got made edd of the rant page you would be up there already,i am not saying your lying but i think either you are born with a ability to read minds, in other words you cant teach it.
frankyhighhorsescouser
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The dude moved someones tan line from their wrist to their bicep! He is a wizard of gandalf proportions!
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Discussion #440Talk Sense

08 Nov 2011 19:21:24
What does everyone think of Gaddafi and NATO's continued ventures into africa and the middle east?

I'm currently preparing a presentation to my college about why Gaddafi wasn't as bad as the western leaders and press have made him out to be. Obviously their are some bad points to him but when you look at the larger picture of what he actually did for his people in terms of education and free health care, electricity, water etc then i think it out ways the bad he did.

Haven't got too much to say about NATO but i hear a lot about how these 'operations' in the middle east are just to serve their own purposes and allow the usa to box in russia?

Obviously can't use this site as a quotable source but if anyone has any links or ideas on the subject please get involved. thanks

 

Yes gaddafi was a very nice man, just misunderstood is all
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Did you know gaddafi was trying to create an african currency of gold dinars, and was going to make the west pay for their oil in this new currency? Similar to saddam who demanded oil be paid for in euros not dollars.

JQuan
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He was due to receive a human rights related nobel peace prize in march.

Len

Ps, yes, that comes from the same UN who put a price on his head.
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Discussion #439Talk Sense

08 Nov 2011 18:11:54
hey edd do you have a link to watch the asteroid that passes tonight? cheers frankyscouse {Ed033's Note - Sorry I don't.}

 

That would be good to see. Do we know where the best place to be is? Bound to be something on the internet.

Mort {Ed003's Note - It can only be seen through a telescope I heard earlier on,I'm sure someone will put it on the internet later}
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Yeah its cloudy here so wont see much anyway. Mort
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Discussion #438Talk Sense

08 Nov 2011 17:34:12
Guys or eds love the site 2 quick questions

David Icke is he nuts or on to something and does the City Of London really have its fingers in everything like the Federal Reserve etc?

Please post

Lurgan Red

{Ed033's Note - David Icke is not nuts. David has written a number of books. Read any one of them from your local library or type david icke into youtube and watch one of his presentations or interviews. Obviously the later the information the better i.e David speaking in 2010 or 2011.

The City of London Crown Corporation think they run what goes on, on 1/6 of the surface of planet earth. They have their fingers in legal drugs, illegal drugs, arms sales, banking etc. and brain washing the people using the educational system and mass-meda to think what i just said is a conspiracy theory.}

 

Lurgan when david icke first came out with the alien stuff i will be honest i thought he was nuts and he admitted he thought he was going insane,but the stuff he says seem to make sense ,i dont understand everything but i get the gist of it, as for city of london crown corporation is like the mafia empire back in the 1930s run by don rothchild. frankyscouse
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I dunno i remember the lizard stuff as a kid and you just think well he's took 1 too mnay balls to the head back in the day, but then you get older and now he's got less lizardy and more into stuff that people are more ready to believe in then i don't know. There's too much odd stuff happening to just dismiss him out of hand these days. More people are willing to believe it than back in the day. Mort
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Thanks Iwas doing a lot of research and came across a lot of references to Icke talking about the isle of wight and a lot of strange goings on he also makes a lot of sense regarding the city of London but I still remember the comments about the lizards and also about the row of volcanoes etc and the other stuff.
Keep up the good work ppl
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David icke is totally nuts
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He claimed to be the son of god at one point! Pretty mad if you ask me, even if what he says at times seems plausible.

{Ed033's Note - I don't think he actually claimed to be the son of god, I have watched the "Wogan" clip more than once and this was the mass media spin they put on things that people believe. The same goes when people just say "the lizard stuff" in regard to david. More mass media spin. I have read both David Icke books where he explained in detail about the so called "lizard stuff" i.e. Children of the Matrix and "The Biggest Secret" books.

It appears, the mass media can say anything and people will believe it without even taking a second look for themselves.}
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Discussion #437Talk Sense

08 Nov 2011 16:08:51
Hey folks, I know you guys covered this recently but I'm curious about chemtrails, surely if they were being used to poison the population then the folk who use these chemicals put their own families at risk?
Thoughts please.

Neil J

{Ed033's Note - The pilots who spray the chemtrails are told it is safe and it is to save the planet from global warming. The people authorising chemtrail spraying are either fools or mind controlled

Here is possibly the best documentary on chemtrails - What in the world are they spraying - www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybWku-lJe6I

 

Fair enough ed but the pilots are not insulated from this kind of info.

Will take a look thanks 33

Neil J
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Well assuming that they are spraying anything, and i think this is one of the more harder to prove, then there must be a reason for spraying it.

I'm not saying that they aren't spraying anything, but you can't really prove what is being sprayed. {Ed033's Note - If you watch the above documentary, What in the world are they spraying, it will probably give you enough info to make your mind up as to what and why they are spraying.}
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