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Discussion #424Talk Sense

07 Nov 2011 08:53:27
Hey eds, how about a talk philosophy site {Ed001's Note - I am not sure there would be much call for it, I will look into it though, certainly be interesting to know if people would want one.}

 

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{Ed033's Note - There will soon be a talk movies web site.}
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Yes

Puzzled
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Movies would be ace.

philospohy maybe if it was politics and philosophy?

Sometimes on here we do drift into political territory and whilst its interesting its not really conspiracy. {Ed001's Note - that might be better, they do tend to overlap a fair bit.}
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Yeah we could have political conspiracies on here (JFK, 9/11 etc) along with all the aliens and stuff and thne have a politics-philospohy were everyone sits around in their toga's and debates Kant and John Stewart Mill. (Thank you Python!!)
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Discussion #423Talk Sense

07 Nov 2011 08:20:58
what if god is actually alien, and ancient people orshipped them hich is continued till now, only we don't know who we are worshipping
May be christ was half alien half human

 

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{Ed033's Note - Well this is the Annanaki information. ie zecharia sitchin books. Type annanaki or zecharia sitchin into youtube.}
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Discussion #422Talk Sense

06 Nov 2011 22:58:02
Just wondering what peoples thoughts are regarding the whole Lybia invasion by NATO and now the emergence of Al-Qaeda flags flying next to Lybian flags on government buildings controlled by the new powers there? how has this not exposed the sinister activities undertaken by NATO? They have effectively installed the same people into power in Lybia who they went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan to remove from power?how are people standing for this and why isnt this being reported by the mainstream media??it beggars belief??
PmacC

 

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{Ed033's Note - Certainly does. As stated on here in a previous post Gadaffi used to give his people electricity for free, bread for free, interest free loans and enough money to buy a house when Libyan people got married and Libya was just about to attempt to make part of the deserts in Libya green again by tapping into underground aquifers and under Gaddafi, libya went from the being one of the poorest countries in Africa to one of the richest countries in Africa.}
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Discussion #421Talk Sense

06 Nov 2011 21:12:30
ok here's one that i don't think has been mentioned on here before. Jack the ripper. Who do people favour?

 

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That dr tublettee or whatever you call him , the american quack who collected private parts of - womens stuff.............lfc
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I think the best explanation of jack the ripper is the one shown in the johnny depp movie involving the royal family, nice movie that
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{Ed033's Note - The answer to what jack the ripper is all about is in chris everard's dvd, the illuminati vol.3 murdered by the monarchy - www.youtube.com/watch?v=id5dexbu5ws
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Discussion #420Talk Sense

06 Nov 2011 20:11:54
celtic won 2 games in a row must be a conspiracy coz there mince hee he


K

 

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I wish my last comment had gone through lol

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Taxmans a coming!
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Discussion #419Talk Sense

06 Nov 2011 18:28:24
Not really a conspiracy as such........

How would we all, as people under a government that a lot of people don't seem to want in power, go about trying to get them removed.

Vote of no confidence?
Mass rally?
Petition to the House of Lord's?

How does the system work to protect the people when the people don't like the onces now in power, especially when they are going back on pre-election promises?

 

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Try waiting for the next election.

You say most people don't want it. And i agree a coalition isn't the greatest. But i didn't want a Labour government and based on votes cast nor did most people in the country as the lib dems and the tories together got more votes.

The only people who don't want the coalition are the lazy fat cat public sector workers who are waking up to the fact that they will have to share some of the pain the rest of us have had to put up with over the last 3 years.

Take my place of work for example.

2008 no pay rise. %00 job losses.
2009 no pay rise
2010 no pay rise (delayed till new tax year)
2011 pay rise but at 50% less of what would have had in previous years. More job losses.

Throw in the soaring cost of living and the last 3 years have not been a picnic.

Yet look at the public sector. I mean we had binmen in Brum on strike cos they were moaning about too much work, and then we find out the average wage was 27k a year!! I'd love to earn that. A binman on 27k a year for gods sake, no wonder people are fed up with councils.

The bloody teachers are a joke as well. All those holidays and they still moan.

So no mate, things aren't ideal but its about time the public sector was dragged into order and made to run more efficently.

O and yeah stuff does need to ne cut but the labour ran councils are doing it in spite to make things look bad, like Manchester for example cutting libraries and swimming pools to hurt ordinary people when their sat oon 60 million in the bank and could easily just get rid of all the non jobs in the city hall.

Have you ever been in side a town hall or city hall? They even have a tea trolley lady. My place we have to make our own. Talk about pampered.

Another exampe. Coventry City Council. 950 Public sector jobs have gone in Coventry since the elction, half of that in the council alone. So if they can axe almost 500 jobs, then did these people need to be employed in the first place? i guess not. {Ed001's Note - I am not one of those, but I don't want the coalition government, so your generalisation is untrue. In fact I doubt there are many that do want this coalition, especially not amongst those who voted for the Lib Dems, most of their votes came from people who wanted neither Tories or Labour in power.}
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On a less serious note, having watched V for Vendetta last night you could go and do that.
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Its still a democratically elected govt, popular or not.

the Miners managed to remove the Heath govt in 1974 through the general strike.

They tried to repeat the trick on Thatcher in 1984 and failed.

I do think the unions would love to have a repeat performance but this isn't a Tory govt its a coalition and popular support for the unions isn't what it was 40 years ago.
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Yes Ed it was a bit of a generalisation, i think no-one at all wanted a coalition but thats what we got thanks to the system of having 3 parties. The Lib Dems were always going to hold the balance of power. Which is why i voted against that AV thing because we would have been in this mess after every election.

The thing is there really isn't anything to be done about it apart from hoping that next time there is an outright winner.

But at the end of the day we couldn;t have had labour after the mess they made. And a straight Tory govt, well we know how that would have turned out. As i see it the Tories have the balls to make the unpopular decsions Labour couldn't or wouldn't make and we need the Lib Dems in there to act as some sort of conscience and rain them in a bit when they start frothing at the mouth.

But i still stand on what i said about the Public Sector. it is in desperate need of reform. Labour had their chance and did nothing to reform only throw money at it. The money needs to be better spent. {Ed001's Note - I don't see how having yet another bunch of liars in charge helps with that?}
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Ed i do see what you are saying and the political classes are full of liars, most of them being failed lawyers after all. But the alternative is what? Most people are apathetic anyway. {Ed001's Note - that is the problem, apathy, for starters voting should be compulsory rather than optional. Secondly any MP should not be allowed to have any kind of second job, if they have time for a second job they are not doing their job correctly as an MP. I don't have all the answers though, that would be a start, it would cut out the MPs who are purely there for money. After that, well who knows, but at least that's a start.}
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Discussion #418Talk Sense

06 Nov 2011 16:31:46
just been reading a bit about pine gap in australia, why drill a hole 5 miles deep, anyone got any theories.

 

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Maybe they detected buried alien tech like that cube thing in transformers? Maybe they found some sort of rare mineral buried that far down and had to go deep to mine it? maybe they have some really nasty toxic waste they wanted to dispose of? Maybe they were just really really bored one day? maybe they had a bet on how far they could get down? maybe they just bought a new drill?
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Discussion #417Talk Sense

06 Nov 2011 11:48:05
Does anyone know of a CURRENT petition site to stop the extradition of
Gary McKinnon, the hacker with Aspergers syndrome who is facing 25 years
in a US prison for searching for (and finding?) evidence of alien technology ?
I think he may have been looking at 911 as well , which would explain why the
americans want him so badly. Time is running out for this poor sod , and though
depressingly a petition probably won't help you never know.
JR

 

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Sorry but he should go over there and face trial. The law is still the law and he broke it, no matter the excuse. Curiosity is no defence. If i wanted to go and look at my neighbours new plasma tv and broke down the back door to have a nosey i would be in the wrong and would expect to get punished.
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Hacking is just wrong plain and simple. i bet everyone on here, at some point, has had some sort of problem related to hacking. Its a nuisence and inconvenient.

Ok so he wasn't being a nuisence to ordinary people by going around planting silly or malicious viruses or anything or knocking out Sony or Blackberry. But it was still wrong. Still illegal. What if he'd got into some sensitive stuff and people got killed for it?

Or is because he has some syndrome people are prepared to cut him some slack? Because to me thats wrong as well. He knew full well what he was doing.
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{Ed033's note - I think where Gary McKinnon went wrong is where he had a telephone offer from someone that was probably high up in the American military system. (Gary talks about this telephone conversation in his interviews with Project Camelot, Jerry pippin etc.) He apparently was offered the chance to plead guilty and spend a couple of years in prison then be released. My opinion is that Gary at that point should have said, "I accept your offer" and a binding contract would have been in place. But Gary counter offered by asking for the offer in writing.

If the Americans then altered the contract, then Gary could have something substantial to go into court with, i.e a binding contract that can't be altered.

As all phone calls are recorded, the offer he was originally given [and his acceptance if he had accepted the offer] could have been obtained from telephone records ordered by the court.}
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Im always reading on here how the military and the government or both are all -powerful,surely they could have made an agreement on the phone but easily deleted the records of said conversation.

Make yer minds up fellas!!

Neil J
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Get what your saying No 33 but i would have wanted it in writing as well, whats to stop the sneaky so and so's losing the copy of the call. {Ed033's Note - What I put was in hindsight and obviously at the time Gary had no idea what was going to happen. Who's to say if Gary had accepted their offer on the telephone and kept quiet that he would have gone to prison for a couple of years and then released on the understanding that he keeps quiet. There's plenty of people alive who have been threatened and keep quiet about things.}
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Discussion #416Talk Sense

05 Nov 2011 23:15:01
has anyone wondered why we haven't learned to use more than the 10-15% of the brain than we do?
huddz red

 

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Huddz red , if you look at the utd page , you can only conclude they only use a lot less than that , maybe 4 or 5 per cent..........lfc
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We do use far more than 10-15%, it's a myth.
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I love the joke lfc made me laugh to myself lol but i think it's less than that lol

Irish Red
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I agree with Irish Red. I think Utd fans verge on psychotic actually!

But yeah, going back to the original question, I think you'll find that we use more like 70%+ of our brain.

Raz
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This coming from the delusional lfc that blatantly supports liverpool?! that is rich ;) 10 - 15 % is a myth but i think its slowly getting lower and lower with all the s**t that is on tv nowadays

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Discussion #415Talk Sense

04 Nov 2011 23:54:52
Anyone seen the Dollar Bill trick EDS? {Ed033's Note - There are multiple Dollar Bill tricks, which one are you asking about?}

 

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The one where you hand it over and get less back, that one always gets me. {Ed033's Note - If money is just a "promise to pay", why do we have to hand over the note anyway. Can't we just go up to a seller of goods or services and just say, "I promise to pay".}
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{Ed033's Note - We can make oral contracts instead of using the bank of england notes that have "I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of" on them

3 minute interview with Michael Tellinger about Contributionism - www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yb872wc2U0&feature=player_embedded#!
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The one where u can fold it in such a way it reveals the pentagon on fire? {Ed033's Note - I've seen a video where someone folds a dollar bill to look like the twin towers are on fire.}
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I watched this the other week and genuinely thought the video was so tenuous it was pretty well verging on pathetic!

With that level of detail on something you could fold it to make almost anything IMO...where there' a will (and an imagination) there's a way. I am the first to err on the side of conspiracies being true but that video just vexed me tbh.

What did everyone else think?

Raz
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Yeah i've seen it, and i can see how people can go oooh look at that. But really its pretty meaningless. Its like the thing in microsoft word where you type in certain stuff and turn the font to wingdings, now thats more freaky.
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Discussion #414Talk Sense

05 Nov 2011 12:12:51
The Moon landings?

Astronout: Houston, we have a problem!

Houston: What is it?

Astronout: The Russians have painted the Moon red!

Houston: Do you have the white paint with you?

Astronout: Yes.

Houston: Then write Coca-Cola on it!

JR
(stolen fromthe Guardian)

 

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Discussion #413Talk Sense

04 Nov 2011 22:31:34
the loch ness monster is true

 

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No it's not
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Yea so is the easter bunny.
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And Santa
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Yous forgot about the tooth ferry and birthday clause but the loch ness monster is true
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Where does the tooth ferry sail from? hollyhead?
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