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Discussion #388Talk Sense

29 Oct 2011 19:54:04
Hi everyone, now that the war in Libya is over, who do u think is next, my money is on Siria or do u think they will go for Iran.

 

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They'll try and do Syria from the inside and further try to surround Iran.
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{Ed033's Note - If syria and Iran are backed by Russia, then NATO or whoever goes into Syria or Iran may have to do a deal with Russia first.}
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Discussion #387Talk Sense

29 Oct 2011 16:02:19
Dear Editors would it be possible to have polls on this site , for all the major
conspiracies and/or some of the more controversial subjects?
Cheers
JR {Ed001's Note - good idea, I will have a word with 033 about setting up a page for polls and discussion of the subject being polled too.}

 

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That is a good idea!
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What are the major conspiracies and/or some of the more controversial subjects?
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Err... well 911 seems a bit pointless , as the very nature of this site would suggest a 90
something % agreeing that it was a inside job.
Maybe something more specific like did MOSSAD teams do the dirty work at the WTC ?
The same would go for UFOs , rather than ask
how many people believe they are ETs ask if
you think they have made contact with governments (i don't ).
These are just examples off the top of my head,
i'm sure you lot will come up with more elaborate questions .
Cheers
JR {Ed033's Note - It is difficult to know what to do. A search box will be added at some point.}
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Discussion #386Talk Sense

29 Oct 2011 15:13:19
is it me or in the simpsons does mayor quimby sound like JFK?

 

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I do believe that Quimby was partly based on JFK. Both liked female company, both have similar voice, both are/ were slightly shady especially in their dealings with italian-American businessmen.
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Both also really liked Chow-dah its pronounced Chow-dah
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Discussion #385Talk Sense

29 Oct 2011 10:18:29
can anyone explain the lost tribes of israel to me

 

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The nation became divided into two kingdoms ,the northernten tribe kingdom of the house of isreal , and the southern two tribe kingdom of judah around 926 b.c. , then 4 invasions between 762 aqnd 676 b.c. took place , the assyrians conquered and deported the ten tribes and most of the cities of the southern kingdom , jerusalem itself was spared. these captive israelites were transported hundreds of miles away northwest to the land of media on the shores of the caspian sea , in northern mesopotamia, they never returned lost to history.the sole surviving identifiable tribe was judah , which was conquered in 587 b.c. by nebuchadnezzar, the capitives became know as jews - a word developed from judeans , they were in babylonian captivity for 70 years before returning to palestine , but as i said the 10 tribes never returned from the earlier captivity a couple of 100 years earlier.its reconed 6 million of the ten tribe went missing. the assyrian name for israelite , khumri tranlates to house of om
scholars confirm that the people known to the persians as saka- to the babylonians as gimirri and to the assyrians as khumri , were but different names for the lost 10 tribes of isreal, saka or sacae meant hose of isaac. these tribes travelled northward and you can trace their migrations through the caucasus. so to cut a long story short these sacae or sakai are really the saxons , also they went into italy , spain , ireland , britain and other counties in europe . the orgin of the word caucasus can traced from these people streaming in to europe through the caucasus mountain region ,so in away these people lost their orgins a bit in relgion but if you look into the bible it all makes perect sence , as what every one thinks of as isreal is not that little trouble spot in the middle east . as all the promises , if you belive the bible thing tell you all this would happen , ie- isreal having a new home , being weathy - land - lands ie - usa britain various european nations seem to fit all this , and is worth looking into ..............lfc
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Thank you lfc. certainly worth some further research.

couple of questions.

The Assyrian name Khumri sounds very similar to Cymru so maybe a Celtic/ Welsh connection?

If the tribes disappeared between 762 bc - 676 bc and popped up in Britain in around 500 ad then that was a long migration. Surely they would have retained some sort of identity.

Thanks though.
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Just to add futher , look into the name cimmerians , also the cimmerians - tribes migrated through the black sea and into northern europe ,. the word sacae or sakae is ultimately derived from isaac , ancestor of the israelites, this is the true orgin of the names of scotland, saxon ,scandinavia, indeed the scts preserve the story of their scythian orgins in the famous document in scottish history -the declaration of arbroath.and indeed there are links with cymri celts - wales in their language with hebrew .............lfc
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You should check out just how much of these topics came from the Sumerian tablets and relation to the Anunnaki. Very strange indeed.

Peace

Jay
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Jay , its just there are more records of this period , that match up with other empires , nations records etc and whats also interesting is the egyptian times too , as most people dont know it was a vast region ruled by various kingdoms and a lot of the dating of the rulers is way off , but if your really interested in the anunnaki etc , check out - the gods of eden- by william bramley , on truth fequency radio or red ice radio , very very good stuff...........lfc
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Discussion #384Talk Sense

29 Oct 2011 06:35:19
I keep picking up hints here and there that we may soon be inline for a reinstatement of the death penalty. Anybody else noticed this?

Len

 

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There do seem to be alot more calls for it to come back compared to 10-15-20 years or so ago.

But then i am in favour of the restoration of the detah penalty for murderer's and child molesters. {Ed001's Note - there are two problems I see with it. 1. what happens if you penalise an innocent person? You can't bring them back or let them go with an apology. 2. What makes you any better than a murderer if you have someone executed in cold blood? And make no mistake about it, that is exactly what you are doing when you have the death penalty.
It is a tough one. But considering there is no proof that the death penalty actually stops people from committing crimes, I don't see the point in it. I would prefer to see criminals suffering for the rest of a long and painful life, execution seems a quick and easy way out.}
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I do see what you are saying ed, but look at the advances in forensic science just in the last 10 years never mind from the 60's.

I think if you take someone's life then you should expect to lose your own.

Is it really in cold blood? From the point of view of the victims families i wouldn't say it was cold blooded.

Its all very well saying they should suffer in prison but the reality is that they don't. To your career criminal its just an occupational hazard, a minor difficulty that they can survive till they get back out and just carry on on the rob. I'd rip out all the nice multi fitted gyms, tv's, etc etc. Have them all on bread and water 3 times a day and 23 hours locked up. We've tried to understand the criminal mind and rehabilitate them and its failed.

And i do still think that if you've got someone bang to rights 100% on murder then thats it. {Ed001's Note - it is still revenge not justice though. I do agree though, jails are far too comfy and cosy, they should be there to suffer.}
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An eye for an eye.
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Two points;
If there is a death penalty in place and somebody unintentionally kills someone, say during a burglary, there is a far greater likelihood that they will then kill again in their bid to avoid being caught!
Secondly, in US States that have the death penalty, the rate at which associated crimes are committed is no less than in neighbouring States that do not. There is no evidence therefore of any deterrent effect!

Reginald {Ed033's Note - The whole point of them being soft on criminals is for people to say that the government should be harder on criminals. When enough people are telling the government to be harder on criminals, the people in the "City Of London" can tell the government to start "zero tolerance" which will mean unless you do and think exactly what you are told by the European Union or the government, you are criminal. And if people complain, you will be told that you asked to be harder on criminals.

At the moment, if you don't pay certain debts, it is considered criminal and if you can't pay, you go to prison. And don't forget that this economic debt crisis is being deliberately created so the ruling class own everything and the people will be in so much debt to the ruling class that the people will have to do exactly what they are told, which is what the "New World Order" is allegedly all about.}
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Couldn't agree with the ed more, it's similar to what the Americans did using 9/11 to pass a lot of 'anti-terrorism' laws that simply breach human rights. The problem is though to many people don't see what the effects will be if they get what they ask for.
Mind speaking of human right, i have noticed the politicians are growing increasingly worried about the protester, the snide remarks and belittling of those people taking a stand for what is essentially right shows how this country is in no way shape or form a democracy. What comes next though is the send people in undercover acting as protesters to whip up a frenzy turning a peaceful demonstration in to a riot, which then allows the police to use the force they signed up for.

always a red
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Discussion #383Talk Sense

28 Oct 2011 18:34:45
What do we think the story is behind the Bermuda Triangle always been fascinated by this?

 

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Same i always watched programms about it but most of them said its a time hole.. this fella was flying to somewhere in america. it should have taken 3 hours but it took 3 mins freaky

Irish Red {Ed033's Note - There is another triangle on the opposite side of the world to the Bermuda triangle where strange things happen such as ships, planes disappear, which is known as The Dragons Triangle off the east coast of Japan - www.youtube.com/watch?v=33jrHheVQqI
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{Ed033's Note - The Dragon's Triangle is where Amelia Earhart disappeared.}
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How do people know where people dissapeared If they dissapeared, did they see them dissapear??
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They would be on the radar one minute and get to a certain point on the radar and disappear... yeah ed i heard of that freaky stuff

Irish Red
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Dragon triangle also where apparently the flying dutchman has been seen drifting then dissappears, been a few accounts....
been talk about these being USO bases these triangles all sorts of weird stuff happens in and around them
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Discussion #382Talk Sense

28 Oct 2011 17:58:22
The problem is there will always be a certain number of individuals who see conspiracies in anything and everything . By definition those people will alway
think that THEY are up to something and keeping
things from us ordinary people.

Suppose no-one was keeping anything from us ?

I am sure there are some conspiracies and some
things that governments will keep from us - but
sometimes stuff just happens without any jiggery-pokery going on .

Puzzled

 

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I argee , most things are more straight forward , but theres plenty of things in the world and history to leave us puzzled ,puzzled.............lfc
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History tell us one thing, legend tells us another. Sometimes they both cross
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Can I remind people that at one time, something as blatantly obvious as the Mafia was considered a conspiracy theory.

If you really want to downplay the number of "conspiracies" in the world (and lets try to use dictionary definitions here, not some MSM trick of making associations and making them stick), we could just as easily say that it's business as usual. People combine to f*** other people over. It has always been this way. Being used to living in a society that is riddled with conspiracies does not mean freedom. It just means you can't see the wood for the trees.

Again, just my opinion.

Len
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Discussion #381Talk Sense

28 Oct 2011 15:59:29
Everybody must watch Ancient Aliens, The Evidence, The Return and The Mission. I truly beleive that weve had contact with people from another planet. All the evidence is out there, things that litterally cannot be explained, the cock ups from the American Government, ie Roswell, where the military says they had found a crashed flying saucer, then days later they said it was a mistake and got mixed up with a weather balloon (how stupid do they think we are). There are videos, reports from high people in high places, how can this be going on and how long until the next roswell? and why do the government keep it from us? is it because all the religions would collapse? and the governments would get a huge backlash and never be trusted again? (not like i trust those b@stards anyway) youtube ancient aliens if you guys havnt already...

 

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If you mean that we must watch it because it's a great example of snappy editing and colourful locations that some people can confuse with genuine research, then I agree.

Len
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Len

While of course your entitled to your own view on the show, i feel you're being a tad harsh to be honest. If you'd actually take the time to watch the programme, no one ever says "this is evidence". Yes suggestion is made some of the findings may prove to be evidence, but that's as far as I've seen it go. Thing is, it's the only show on mainstream tv that talks about these things. Also, some of the things that have been found in ancient mesopatamia (spelling) does bring up some seriously strange questions.
Don't get me wrong, it's very possible that ancient man was actually at the highest peak of technology and was so far advanced, when the deluge (or other catastrophe) happened, then everything was lost. Let's face it, there are monolithic blocks all over the planet that have been cut precisely and moved miles from quarry's, some of these blocks weigh in the higher regions of 10's of thousands of tonns, some even higher. Now we have to sit back in amazement, no matter who it was, as to how these things have been done, as we are still in the dark about how it was actually done, even with our technology today we can't replicate such things.
So in all, I disagree with what you make of said tv programme, or at least I do until I see evidence of the researchers on the programme trying to shove it down our throats.

Peace

Jay

Ps. What you should do, is listen to what they have to say, check it out for yourself then you can make up your own mind on whatever topic is up for discussion, and I assure you, you'll be left with more questions than answers my friend.
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I wouldn't have said this if I hadn't seen the show. When I first heard about it, i was quite excited. Only until i saw it though. Style over substance. It's just another tv show.

Len
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Discussion #380Talk Sense

28 Oct 2011 02:37:52
The Phillidelphia experiment . Forgot all about it till i came across something
called The real Phillidelphia experiment on some documentaries site , have to
say looking at the "evidence" now i am pretty sceptical , can anyone shed any
new light on the subject ?
JR

 

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World war 2 apparently a ship was made invisible. Load of balls {Ed001's Note - no mate, they tried to turn a ship invisible, the claim is it vanished rather than turned invisible. Then there was a later claim that it travelled through time. So it may well be a load of balls, but at least get the right set of balls! Nothing worse than playing football with a cue ball.....}
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Apparantly when the ship returned or reappeared alot of the structure had been warped and some crew and been melted into the ships body work

MJ
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Have a look at the montauk project on youtube , interesting stuff about the phillidelphia experiment.............lfc
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Cheers, i checked out the montuak project on
youtube , only got through 15 minutes though.
The fella doing all the talking is obviously lying
or delusional , the erm time-traveller next to him
seems to be caned.Quite funny.
JR {Ed033's Note - These people talking about the montauk project on youtube are difficult to believe. I think the only thing we can say for sure is that there were government experiments to make ships and planes invisible to radar. These experiments may have gone as far as to attempt ships becoming invisible to the naked eye as well. But with the level of "Black Technology" nowadays, anything could be possible including cloaking of planes and ships that we know of in science fiction.}
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Discussion #379Talk Sense

28 Oct 2011 02:05:41
Just watched a conspiracy documentary about Titanic , it was OK but it didn't
hold much water.
JR

 

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LOL thats great.....tickled me :-)
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Rubbish and it obviously did?
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I was joking
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Discussion #378Talk Sense

27 Oct 2011 21:56:00
just limke 2 say thanks for respondig 2 my hitler post, and tht im not a white supremisist or anything of the sort, am just researching some things and ther is alot of conflictiting data, i havent made up my mind on what i believe 2 happen as im not educated enuff on the subject, and just wanted 2 no your views, and of cours i liked stirring up some controversy, just want 2 say thanks and ther wont be anymore ville or racist posts from me, in hindsight i may have came on 2 strong, but i did want 2 invoke a response, which i have done and sorry if i offended anyone(including the eds) thanks for the response( i will now only read the posts instead of posting myself) thanks again x {Ed001's Note - there is no reason to stop posting, even if people disagree with your views you are certainly entitled to have them and express them.}

 

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Cheers ed
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Discussion #377Talk Sense

27 Oct 2011 20:01:19
okay what do people think the world will be like 100 years from now , if there is not worldwide war , what will things be like , do you think we will be able to travel far into space , even time travel , think of the advance in medical stuff , and we might even be able to get a good live stream on the net to watch the footie , the 100 metres in something like 8 secounds could be the norm , will we have a mix of human and animal mixed together , if this is not being done already , ufos will be sloved , even things we cant yet even get our heads round will be understood , it would be great to see it , if we didnt have to get old and sick i mean..............lfc

 

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Sadly I think we need a war, technology seems to leap and bound because of war
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'lfc' - Do you think we'll see Liverpool win a title within the next 100 years?

Matthew... ;)
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Matthew, do you think we'll see United win a Champions League trophy within the next 100 years?

maka
YNWA JFT96
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Thats a bit naughty of you matthew lol, but i think football will be like some sort of virtual reality , were players play but though a mind eye type machine , so there will be no injurys , well it would maybe suit arensal anyway , then they cant complain about their players injured all the time, but who knows , they say that knowledge doubles every 18 months or so , but whatever happens man utd will still be around and so will liverpool i think............lfc
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I'm only kidding guys. To be honest though, I dread to think what football will be like in a 100 years time.

Matthew...
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