Talk Sense

14 Sep 2011 11:48:41
I would like to advise people new to all of this to learn a bit of real history
start with Howard Zinn, he iwas not so much conspiracy , but a superb
historian who included the really important stories the establishment always
omitted.
For documentaries watch Human recources by Scott Noble
O 9/11 (Italan doc ,very thorough )
A history of oil by Rob Newman (funny and very informative )
If you are going to watch Alex Jones be a bit weary , although he's right on
about 70% of his topics (though a lot is plageurised and he likes to claim
credit) he is very insular and knows /understands little of the world beyond u.s borders
JR
p.s for a good ufo doc watch the day before disclosure
enjoy

14 Sep 2011 11:29:33
if indeed 9/11 was not actually what it appeared to be then what was it?

14 Sep 2011 11:07:42
there are many conspiracies, the biggest one has be the government hiding the fact there is aliens. because the aliens have told the government somthing and that is the world will end on the 21-12-2012 @11am. the reason they wont tell us is because they cant save us all and only have a few spaceships for the illuminati & the gang !!. i think we should all gatecrash area 51!!. what could they do with a milliuon people charging them down!

14 Sep 2011 08:08:45
so whats the truth with roswell.

14 Sep 2011 02:41:59
many of the worlds regllions have a lot of truth in them , but maybe its been staring us in the face of were we come form , when it says in the christain bible - let us make man in our image , that could mean we have been upgraded from a more primite state into modern man or just offspring from human form from another solar system , who came here and seeded the planet, heck all this stuff is a bit deep isnt it........lfc

14 Sep 2011 02:34:24
Do you the present governments all around the world play around with feelings and naivety about religion for their own gains?

I think yes. I also think majority of the world's population do not understand the true meaning of religion. I for one thing all religion were based so called pagan beliefs where you worship and pray to nature and mother earth than human forms!its the corrupt human mind that has destroyed this belief.

the present religion in world just cannot hold true with so many people!Its like a company with certain rules set up 100 years ago for 500 employees..the same rules and structure cannot hold true now with the employees increasing proportionally in size!

14 Sep 2011 00:23:31
to jay first off respect for putting so much time into researching something like that. I will have a look when i have more free time. I do agree that there are a few unexplained things that happened that day, but as you say we will most likely never know. Regards missing camera footage we're most likely never going to see it so can't say a lot. Personally the only thing that happened different that day is regards the fourth plane that crashed in the fields. I do think that one was shot down to prevent further damage but they didn't have the will to admit to giving an order to kill american citizens. So instead we have the whole they fought back as it looks better to americans that at least some went down fighting. Regards the rest i don't think, at least regards new york, it was anything different to what we saw. Any kind of government level conspiracy would be too large, something would come out, look at watergate for example. It couldn't be kept as a secret for long and would be the worst scandel ever. Also looking at the footage from when bush was informed, he wasn't in on it if it was planned. He's not considered intelligent enough to be that good am actor, he was genuinely surprised. I do think people should question things and find the answers to the questions. But i do think too many people would rather cling to a conspiracy because they cannot accept the truth. Or what i believe is the truth. Some of the conspiracy stuff does make you think twice. And some of it is just crazy. Its sifting through it i guess. Maybe something will turn up, like the 911 version of the zapruder film. Anyway keep digging you never know buddy. {Ed033's Note - The 911 version of the zapruder film is all over youtube except there are loads of 911 versions of the zapruder film. There are loads of videos that never got onto the main stream media because it shows a different perspective than the fake official story of what happened with the Twin Towers. How do you demolish 3 Skyscrapers with 2 planes? because that is what happened. }

14 Sep 2011 00:09:49
Here's another one for you, Who built the Pyramids? Don't sit their and tell me it was the Egyptians cos thats a load of bull.
1. the job was too big, although I suppose with enough people it could be done, but what makes it impossible in my eye's is......
2. The positioning of them. They don't just resemble the stars positions in the sky, they are spot on to the last Centimeter to do this would take math of the very highest standard. Scientists say we would struggle to do this today......Comments:
Great site ed's...

Sooty

13 Sep 2011 23:02:41
ed whats your thoughts on everything surrounding the moon as in landings the colour of it etc. DORSET RED {Ed033's Note - Watch Jose Escamilla's film Moon Rising to see the moon in colour + other anomalies here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK-2N4L5rCA&feature=fvsr

Another thing that we all need to comprehend is that there is allegedly a secret space program. The secret space program obviously uses high end black technology and can probably travel throughout the solar system and beyond.

Apollo could have got to the moon in my opinion by using black technology. However it appears that almost all of the astronauts cannot remember what they did on the moon according to Richard Hoagland and Mike Barra's book, Dark Mission; such as Edgar Mitchell who allegedly went to a hypnotherapist twice to uncover memories of his time on the moon because he couldn't remember. However no moon memories were found and the hypnotherapist told Edgar Mitchell that the reason he couldn't find the memories of Edgar Mitchell's time on the moon was because the memories weren't there in the first place.}

13 Sep 2011 22:06:49
Not so much a Conspiracy as a question. Does anybody think time travel is possible.

Sooty

13 Sep 2011 21:53:46
A YOUNG Liverpool FC striker was today under investigation by the club after claiming 9/11 was not the work of terrorists.

Reserve team striker Nathan Eccleston, 20, has caused outrage after his posting on Twitter on the 10th anniversary of the atrocity.

In it, he claimed the attacks were "an accident" and that he believed the "Illuminati" – a shadowy society spread across the world – were responsible.

Eccleston, who has so far made nine appearances for the Reds, wrote: "I aint going to say attack don’t let the media make u believe that was terrorist that did it. #O.T.I.S."

OTIS stands for ‘Only The Illuminati Succeed’.

Now senior officials at the US-owned club have told the Manchester-born player he faces an investigation into his posting.

Today, the Tweet had been removed from his site.

An LFC spokesman said: "The club takes this matter extremely seriously and senior club officials have informed Nathan Eccleston that we are undertaking an investigation into the circumstances surrounding these postings and will decide on an appropriate course of action."

Fans were split over the striker’s actions.

Some took to internet message boards to defend him as "only young", saying he was allowed to voice an opinion.

But most slammed him, with some calling for him to never wear the shirt again and others labelling him as "idiotic, misinformed and basically stupid".

Eccleston joined LFC from Bury aged 15 and has spent time out on loan at Huddersfield Town and Charlton Athletic.

He gave up his number 39 shirt from last season’s squad when Craig Bellamy returned to Anfield last month.

Obviously someone didn't read the disclaimer at they'll of the page Ed.

dmedly {Ed001's Note - it's worrying that a player is getting into trouble for expressing an opinion.}

13 Sep 2011 20:41:06
The starchild skull is a fascinating find, worth more study's I think, the potential it has is phenomenal. Apparently, it's been scientifficly tested over seven times and the end results are all the same. The father is not of human origin, check it yourself. Lloyd Pye is the man in possession of this wonderful mystery.
To the guy that said it's FACT that Aliens have never visited earth!! If you research all the ancient cultures, eg.. The Sumerians, Egyptians, Hopi, Mayans etc... They all spoke of the Gods ( some called them space brothers ) who came from the sky, who were divine and other worldly. Yes, these COULD just be myth, but to create a myth or a tale, you must have a reference point. Eg.. They must have witnessed something to be able to speak of it, for you can't describe what you have never seen. That's a FACT!
To the other guy who was talkin about 9/11 sayin he'll never be convinced that anything dodgy went on that day. No one here is trying to CONVINCE anyone about anything. We've simply seen so much evidence, that the official story doesn't right with us. Please look at the evidence that's out there yourself, and if you're still happy with what you believe, then fair play to you, as only you can make up your own mind. But here are some things for you to check out.

1. How does a plane that stands 45ft tall leave a 15ft hole in the Pentagon?
2. Why have the FBI/CIA never released the footage that THEY confiscated to prove that it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? ( hundreds of CCTV cameras surround the Pentagon and it's been admitted the footage was taken )
3. How did the BBC manage to report that WTC 7 had collapsed 20mins before it did? With WTC 7 still standing behind the correspondent who was in NY?
4. Pools of molten metal found days after the attack, and thermite seen ( footage ) pouring out one of the WTC's. Jet fuel doesn't burn to temperatures that produces these results, so what did?
5. Police officers and firefighters reporting multiple explosions, and explosions seen as the buildings are coming down. Why would these men of authority and protection of citizens report these explosions if they weren't true?

Check out zeitgeist, 9/11 ripple effect, esoteric agenda, these will lead you to other documentarys/films and fir you to do more of your OWN research my friend, and hopefully put you on the path to truth and unity with OUR brothers and sisters across the globe.

Peace to all

Jay