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14 Dec 2015 02:24:39
joe rogan and ex-russia today journo, abby martin discuss many topics
isis
ukraine
saudi
american sniper
i thought martin was a bit of a shill when she left RT over the ukraine but reading and watching more I have changed my mind, really good this video, it's 2 and a half hours long but very interesting.
14 Dec 2015 11:17:40
Russia todays state funded so puts out what the Kremlin wants it to put out.
All media puts out whatever the paymasters want. RT isn't much better than Fox in that regard. Its just another point of view. Not saying that's its unreliable. Indeed they do report many interesting things you won't see on British ir American media. But its all about highlighting how bad the west is and papering over the faults of the Kremlin. Same way Fox looks for scapegoats to exonerate the white house.
Martin went on principle as she knew it was bullshit and couldn't take anymore.
Russia todays state funded so puts out what the Kremlin wants it to put out.
All media puts out whatever the paymasters want. RT isn't much better than Fox in that regard. Its just another point of view. Not saying that's its unreliable. Indeed they do report many interesting things you won't see on British ir American media. But its all about highlighting how bad the west is and papering over the faults of the Kremlin. Same way Fox looks for scapegoats to exonerate the white house.
Martin went on principle as she knew it was bullshit and couldn't take anymore.
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14 Dec 2015 11:43:18
she does mention that yes, as she says everything about propaganda is correct, I get the impression kim you think I am some sort of a russian lover because I believe in some aspects of socialism?
she does mention that yes, as she says everything about propaganda is correct, I get the impression kim you think I am some sort of a russian lover because I believe in some aspects of socialism?
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14 Dec 2015 14:42:50
Not at all. I want everyone to be Russian lovers being Russian myself. I'm just pointing out that the current regime is as guilty of many of things it accuses others of being guilty of. And worse things too.
Like I said RT does broadcast a lot of things you won't see on western outlets. I'm just pointing though that they are also a regime mouthpiece just as much as Sky or Fox or others.
I just don't agree with a lot of what my government does. Including the suppression of human rights and the illegal war in Ukraine. And I will say that in every place I can as long ad I can.
My country suffered worse than any other in the 20th century. My country has a rich cultural heritage. My country could be a tremendous force for good in the right hands. Alas its not in the right hands.
As much as you disliked thatcher and Blair, rightly too, I don't like certain of Russia's leaders.
Nothing to do with socialism franky. i'd love to see a truly socialist world. But a lot needs to happen first. A good start would be getting rid of a lot of the Stalinist rubbish that too many in the west seem to equate with proper socialism.
Not at all. I want everyone to be Russian lovers being Russian myself. I'm just pointing out that the current regime is as guilty of many of things it accuses others of being guilty of. And worse things too.
Like I said RT does broadcast a lot of things you won't see on western outlets. I'm just pointing though that they are also a regime mouthpiece just as much as Sky or Fox or others.
I just don't agree with a lot of what my government does. Including the suppression of human rights and the illegal war in Ukraine. And I will say that in every place I can as long ad I can.
My country suffered worse than any other in the 20th century. My country has a rich cultural heritage. My country could be a tremendous force for good in the right hands. Alas its not in the right hands.
As much as you disliked thatcher and Blair, rightly too, I don't like certain of Russia's leaders.
Nothing to do with socialism franky. i'd love to see a truly socialist world. But a lot needs to happen first. A good start would be getting rid of a lot of the Stalinist rubbish that too many in the west seem to equate with proper socialism.
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14 Dec 2015 16:43:33
good to know kim , one day I would love to take a trip out there and this sums up my thoughts on most leaders by this great man.
John Lennon on peace
good to know kim , one day I would love to take a trip out there and this sums up my thoughts on most leaders by this great man.
John Lennon on peace
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14 Dec 2015 16:56:08
An old soviet joke showed the different views of communism by leader
Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev are all travelling together in a railway carriage.
Unexpectedly, the train stops. Lenin suggests: "Perhaps we should call a subbotnik, so that workers and peasants fix the problem. "
Stalin puts his head out of the window and shouts, "If the train does not start moving, the driver will be executed! "
But the train doesn't start moving.
Khrushchev then shouts, "Let's take the rails behind the train and use them to construct the tracks in the front. "
But it still doesn't move. Brezhnev then says, "Comrades, comrades, let's draw the curtains, turn on the gramophone and pretend we're moving! "
It was later expanded to include Gorbachev but it lost the punch line.
You should go to Russia. Late spring to early autumn is the best times.
An old soviet joke showed the different views of communism by leader
Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev are all travelling together in a railway carriage.
Unexpectedly, the train stops. Lenin suggests: "Perhaps we should call a subbotnik, so that workers and peasants fix the problem. "
Stalin puts his head out of the window and shouts, "If the train does not start moving, the driver will be executed! "
But the train doesn't start moving.
Khrushchev then shouts, "Let's take the rails behind the train and use them to construct the tracks in the front. "
But it still doesn't move. Brezhnev then says, "Comrades, comrades, let's draw the curtains, turn on the gramophone and pretend we're moving! "
It was later expanded to include Gorbachev but it lost the punch line.
You should go to Russia. Late spring to early autumn is the best times.
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