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18 Dec 2015 12:04:26 What a joke. The daily fail saying the deliberate high altitude geoengineering spraying, sometimes called, 'Chemtrails' is an unintentional icy haze from Aircraft contrails that could be changing the atmosphere
19 Dec 2015 06:22:17 Great tactic from the powers that be. They know that more and more people are starting to figure it out so they come up with an alternative for the sheeple to suck up and believe.
17 Dec 2015 19:56:57 Hi guys, with lots of talk on the forums of secret agents etc I was hoping a few could help me.
My great uncle I have found out from the ever excellent Kimphilby on this great site was a MI6 spy. I have been trying to find out more on him and his visit to Angola in the 70's and apparent 'death', I use that term as my father knows he didn't die there because he took a call from him years later asking for my grandad (his brother) and after realising it was the son hung up. My family never receiving anything from a body to bury or his belongings backs this theory up imo.
Anyways my question is, how easy is it to become a spy for MI6? I have read and been told by a a few people that it would not of been that difficult for him to find himself in that role, while others maintain its a very trusted position.
Sorry to be asking people here it's just my family seem to just shut up whenever I mention my great uncle and brush me off with silly stories about him.
The impression I got is its quite easy and he maybe just found himself in that role for that particular assignment and it's nothing to look into, am I right?
Cheers again guys, any opinions in this subject would be greatly appreciated as I'm trying to get my son into finding out about my families shady past as well as our good past :)
17 Dec 2015 21:40:58 Well depends on the role. A lot of intelligence work is analysis. Forget any images of James bond. Anyone who is a specialist could be recruited depending on what's required. Traditionally linguists are always popular. Russian speakers, arab speakers, etc. Or technical specialists like in 1990 with the gulf.
University graduates tend to be favoured because the intellectual disciplines used are essential for analysis.
Sometimes you do have on-site specialists. If for example you want to send someone to look at a bunch of mercenaries and assess the situation then current or ex military personnel would be a starting point.
17 Dec 2015 21:50:21 It's great digging into family stuff CTR good you found stuff out, Kim is very informative .
Looking into family stuff will distract you from LVG United bore, lol.
You would have to be of a certain material to join M15 for sure. Someone posted a John unwin video on here a short while ago Chris, it was brilliant to listen to although I'm still not sure but it was one of the best listens posted and he went onto mention been selected or groomed for some sort of task force.
So the chances are your great uncle would have been involved in some way with the government or civil service and was watched for certain attributes that would be idea for the M15, it's the same as every job you need to be a certain way, for example you have to be a certain way to be a nurse or a fireman, policeman, and you could argue that it's easy to become one of those but the fact is that you have to be a certain type of person.
18 Dec 2015 15:30:08 Most of the agents here in Ireland were members of the community and organisations they were spying on. They had handlers who work from a safe distance and never at risk. That would have been MI5 thou, I'd imagine most of the MI6 spooks were similar.
18 Dec 2015 16:26:44 Yes you have handlers you handle assets. Usually people attached to an embassy or consulate and therefore protected by diplomatic immunity. If caught all that happens is you get expelled. And end up in Alaska or Siberia or whatever the British equivalent is.
That's white ops. Handlers need to be intelligent, good people skills and able to blend in well especially in different social circles.
Assets are usually local people you have their own motivations. There are 3 ways to recruit an asset. The 3b's. Bribery, blackmail or bullshit. You'd be amazed the people prepared to sell out their country for money. Blackmail, well the kgb employed special agents known as swallows or ravens depending on their sex whose job was to seduce targets and open them up to blackmail. And then there was good old fashioned bullshit. Sometimes although rarely there were those doing it for another motive. For a cause. Or revenge.
When your in country but the embassy is unaware then that's a black op and you have no fall back cover of diplomatic immunity. Then when caught your disavowed and wait to be exchanged.
17 Dec 2015 13:48:08 Always said he survived. Most of the veterans I've ever spoken to that were in berlin at the end said funny things were going on but wouldn't go any further.
17 Dec 2015 20:04:41 I have read numerous reports he was sent to Argentina by the cia. One report was from a couple who claim to have lived next to them for many years.
18 Dec 2015 10:13:16 Stalin was quoted as saying that he thought Hitler didn't die in Berlin. A pilot called Peter Baumgart claimed to his dying day that he flew the couple and some others to Tondern in Denmark. It's not inconceivable that he got away, especially when you consider there are many eyewitnesses in Argentina who said they saw or met him.
19 Dec 2015 13:01:18 Stalin wanted to form an nkvd taskforce charged with hunting him down. But in the immediate post war period there was too much to do in the western soviet union in the areas that had been occupied and the newly acquired territories especially Poland and east Germany. By the time that was accomplished the cold war was underway. The atomic project was top priority. There was the berlin crisis. Other things. Lack of south American resources. By 1950 with Korea and stalins health issues it was dropped.
16 Dec 2015 20:44:43 Edd033 what's your opinion on princesses diana's death mate. I believe to this day she was murdered but I don't think I can say much in this page about who was involved.
{Ed033's Note - Many people think it was a murder, but it appears she was not killed in the car crash itself as eye witness reports live at the crash scene were reporting that she was sat up talking to the medics as she was put in the ambulance. It appears that she was killed in the ambulance as she allegedly arrived dead at the hospital.
The crash site itself was originally where European royalty hundreds of years ago used to meet up if they they had a disagreement so they could have it out with each other.
Princess Diana was originally scheduled to come home from France on August 30th but a number of poor excuses were made so that she couldn't. The reason for this is, if they are going to murder royalty, they have to do it in a ritual manner.
The goddess, Diana was worshipped at a festival on August 13, if you're going to kill Diana (not worship her) then you would have to invert the number 13, which gives you 31 and you would have to commit the evil deed on August 31. (which is the date of Diana's death) in 1997.
Also remember that goddess Diana's number is 13 and the car she was in, crashed into the 13th pillar in the tunnel.
Add to this that the street cameras leading into the tunnel of the crash were switched off just before the car she was in got to those cameras. Also add that radio hams noticed that telecommunications went down just before the crash.
As the ambulance took about 40 minutes longer to arrive at the hospital than it should have taken, i suspect that some 'high priest' type performed some ritual blood sacrifice inside the ambulance that took about 30 minutes to perform and it was probably filmed.
In addition, Princess Diana was told by intelligence agents that there was a plan to have her taken out via a car crash and this info was allegedly written down by Diana before her death.
If you add the above together, i believe it was no accident.
As to why Diana may have been taken out, my take is this:
Princess Diana was from the Spencer family which is allegedly part of the Stuart royal dynasty. Obviously the Queen and Prince Philip are from German royalty and allegedly, the Queen mother had this idea to increase the legitimacy of her German line being on the English throne by having Prince Charles marry Diana's older sister, then ideally have 1 or 2 male children with Diana's older sister.
The Queen Mother was friends with Diana's grandmother and or mother so it was quite easy to arrange a marriage between Diana's older sister and Charles, except Diana's older sister turned Charles down so Diana was offered the role instead.
Obviously, now we know that Charles was never interested in Diana but with Camilla instead so after William and Harry (possibly not Charles' son), Diana was pushed aside and ignored by the Monarchy and Charles pursued Camilla.
After this, Diana then started feeling sorry for herself and was diagnosed with Bulimia nervosa, but after a while it appears she planned at some point to get her own back on Charles/the current Monarchy by exposing secrets about Charles/the monarchy that would turn the British public so much against Charles that he would never be King and the next person to ascend to the throne of England would then be William.
Diana (whether by accident or by her design) gained massive worldwide popularity by performing humanitarian work. She appeared to be genuinely interested in helping the poor/disadvantaged and saw the suffering that land mines around the world were causing, so she decided to use her popularity to try and get land mines banned, which she successfully (temporarily) did.
At the same time there was a rumour that Diana was trying to go out with JFK junior but then he was quickly married off. Then we heard a rumour she was trying to go out with Bill Clinton but that never materialised and the next rumour we heard was that she could be pregnant with Dodi Al Fayed's baby.
Then shortly before her death, Diana went on t.v. saying some treasonous things about Charles.
So, she was possibly killed for any or all of the following reasons:
1) Diana was allegedly carrying a baby which could have been seen as a threat to the current Monarchy being possibly 4th inline to the throne
2) Diana had said treasonous things about the monarchy which couldn't go unpunished
3) Diana was just about to expose secrets about Charles/the current monarchy that Diana knew but that couldn't be allowed to be exposed (David Icke said that he spoke to a close friend of Diana's who said Diana was close to exposing secrets about the monarchy that they wouldn't have wanted out in public)
4) Diana had successfully stopped the sale of land mines and was planning to stop more arms sales which could not be allowed.
5) Diana was so popular around the world that whatever she said could not be ignored by the mainstream media, so she could potentially prevent/stop any of the elitists agendas.
17 Dec 2015 12:14:50 the only question that should be asked is who gained from here death? once you figure that out then it will all makes sense. Below is a documentary about Princess Diana.
17 Dec 2015 17:25:12 But has that ever been publicly admitted?
Would explain why they seem less bothered about what he gets upto. But had to keep him in the official line as the truth is too damaging. Of course now robot William has been 'producing' the goods he's moving down the order.
18 Dec 2015 10:17:32 If she was pregnant, that child would have been about 18 by now, and can you imagine how a half arab brother or sister to the future king of England would be a complete embarrassment to the royal family, and also someone who could have potentially become a hugely influential figure in the arab world.
16 Dec 2015 19:36:44 So those fracking exploration licencesare being granted. Was never any doubt they were going to be. Will be interesting to see how the company's are intertwined with government ministers and their families.
{Ed033's Note - More evidence that all they really want to do is ruin everything and turn the Earth into a wasteland.
People are going to find that if their property is near to a fracking area then the property will become worthless as the land their property is situated on will l be toxic from all the toxic chemicals used in the fracking process. And the groundwater around the fracking area will become contaminated.
16 Dec 2015 12:30:46 had a feller knocking on my door today about smart meters, I told him no chance then went on to mention the health reasons and snooping on your habits .
he seemed genuinely interested and shocked and said when he gets home he will look into it more, he also said by 2020 it will be mandatory for everyone's home to have one, is this true?, I did say I would fight it and never have one .
{Ed033's Note - The biggest problem we have is that everyone now believes that the government tells we the people what to do, when it is the other way around.
That's the whole point of we the people having a local representative , i.e. M.P. Your M.P. is supposed to be your voice to the government telling them what you require of them. Your M.P. is a public servant to represent/serve we the people and government is supposed to represent/serve we the people.
But anyway, as it is the agenda to have smart meters then at some point the government will be told to say it's now mandatory and then everyone will believe that it is mandatory.
it would cost too much to force it on everyone via police so they get as many ignorant people to consent voluntarily by the power company agents saying it's a necessary important upgrade to the system.
Further down the line power company agents will just turn up and change meters without you knowing ahead of time (if they have outside access to your meters) and leave a note saying thank you for changing over to a digital 'smart' meter.
And a but later on the few that 'resist' will get it forced on them by someone turning up with a piece of paper that was printed off at the power companies office (the piece of paper means nothing) saying you must allow the meter to be changed. If you still do not obey, the the police will turn up and force the meter change.
The reason why we probably know the above will happen is because this has already happened in America in certain states.
16 Dec 2015 16:28:24 Can you give me some more information on this matter?
{Ed033's Note - Yes, you can look for interviews with Josh Del Sol on youtube or you can watch the below documentary on Digital 'Smart' Meters made by Josh Del Sol
16 Dec 2015 17:28:43 Recent interview with Josh Del Sol. The negative health effects of the smart grid will affect everyone and the health effects of smart meters has not been looked at. These meters will send out an intense short burst of ionising radiation every second, millions of times higher than mobile phones and wifi that will ruin everyone's health.
You can refuse these meters. Letters for people to use to stop these meters:
16 Dec 2015 18:44:38 i am going to make a point on twitter to regularly tweet about the cons of it, a token gesture maybe but awareness needs to be made public to everyone.
{Ed033's Note - Great, this is an important issue. The negative health effects will affect children more than adults as well. In order to stop this, eventually people will have to send out appropriate letters rather than saying no thanks.
16 Dec 2015 23:19:34 i have it on a twitter loop which will send that youtube link every 5 hours every day, every week, hopefully the message will get across.
16 Dec 2015 00:20:25 news that prince charles had access to undisclosed files about politicians,
a few things come out this, first the myth the monarchy are just a figurehead of the uk is blown away. secondly undisclosed files mean dirt and he must have got the all clear by MI5 which begs the question why did MI5 not warn charlie that he's best pal was a nonce? jimmy saville.
{Ed033's Note - i would think Charlie, already knew that but never thought it would be let out.
This maybe old news but i heard a rumour that Charlie converted to Islam. Maybe one day we will have Sharia Law as The Law in UK.
16 Dec 2015 00:41:20 never heard that one before, I know the monarchy are close to saudi arabia, suppose sharia law is not a million miles away from the monachy protocols .
15 Dec 2015 22:09:13 I am not a big fan of Dr. Steven Greer (among other things, he takes credit for other peoples research) I have to say that this was quite an enjoyable watch. There are a couple of things that Greer says that I out right disagree with, as well as making some mistakes - whether by mistake or intentional. Other than that, the information given is backed up by documentation he produces in his presentation.
{Ed033's Note - i haven't taken any notice of him for a number of years as Dr. Steven Greer appears to be limited or controlled to some degree and deliberately puts out some disinfo, imo. i.e. how can he possibly know that all ET groups allegedly visiting Earth are benevolent, which he claims or used to claim.
16 Dec 2015 00:10:10 seem to remember Greer had a bust up with project camelot duo a few years back, I struggle to know who is genuine today and to be honest I am very skeptical about the names mentioned, not to say the Disclosure Project was a scam but more of a containing exercise.
{Ed033's Note - They obviously planned the the Disclosure Project conference just before 9/11 so it would be completely drowned out by 9/11.
16 Dec 2015 21:32:11 There was a couple of things that were let out the bag prior to 9/11, namely the then American Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, announcing that around 2 trillion dollars was unaccounted for over a 5 year period. To put that in context, the average American congress sanctioned defence budget in that period was around 300 billion.
The one thing Greer mentions, which I actually agree with, is the existence of a "breakaway civilisation" of sorts, that is operating technology way beyond anything most could imagine. Technologies such as Anti-Gravity propulsion and advanced Quantum computing. There is also the facilities that house these projects: Underground bases that are linked via magnetic tube systems. There is also the possibility that we are operating off world; a possibility that I am almost certain to be true. Putting aside the evidence to suggest that there is a secret space programming, the fact that humanity still uses 1940's rocket technology to get us into space while everything else has evolved at an exponential rate, raises many questions.
The biggest problem with trying to get to the bottom of many of these possibilities is the fact that there is so much disinformation circulating out there; so it can sometimes feel like trying to find a needle in a haystack. That said, I think there are a few that are onto something; but I am not sure I put Greer in that category.
{Ed033's Note - i think you're right about everything you said in your post and we've had posts about this topic before.
i think Joseph P. Farrell has some important info on the breakaway civilisation topic. Below is a video for those who might want some info on how the breakaway civilisation may have begun
Dark Journalist & Joseph Farrell: Roots of the Breakaway Civilization (NASA, Nazi International, JFK)
16 Dec 2015 22:23:42 I read Farrell's book: The SS Brotherhood of the Bell. It was about secret experiments the Nazi's were undertaking. Farrell argues that they were trying to develop anti-gravity propulsion. The funny thing is, the scientists who were working on the Bell project were captured by the Americans and eventually given American citizenship.
I also read an interesting book by a German author (his names alludes me) Who said that the Nazi's SS Cult organisation - The Ahnenerbe - were conducting experiments using the Bell, to creating tears in space time and enter other dimensions; or call forth the beings that inhabited those dimensions. Sounds like the realm of fantasy, but the occult and the belief in higher dimensional beings, was at the root of the esoteric side of Nazism.
Thanks for posting the Video.
{Ed033's Note - Joseph Farrell has done several excellent interviews with dark journalist. All can be found on youtube.
15 Dec 2015 14:33:59 i must admit I do not know a lot about climate change but I do get its another way to tax you, here is a very short simple interview with piers corbyn (jeremy's brother) who is an expert on the subject, very interesting.
15 Dec 2015 12:29:12 This a football conspiracy topic I would like to get the eds views on a couple of things. I have just finished watching a documentary in regards to England's, USA's and Australia's failed world cup bids of 2018 and 2022 in which it showcased very shameless underhanded tactics being used by the Russian's and the Qatari's in order to win votes.
My first question is the obvious one - if proven in a court of law that Russia or Qatar categorically bribed FIFA officials to gain votes could those nations be stripped of the tournament? Unlikely I know as infrastructure etc has already begun.
Secondly when was football officially ripped out of the hands of the common folk and used solely to generate more income for the those born into aristocracy? The money involved at the top of the game is staggering beyond belief and it is getting to the point it is becoming unaffordable to the middle class never mind the working class.
Finally, I don't understand how national teams are able to elect a foreign coach to lead them in their quest for international glory. Why is this allowed? For me the coach along with the coaching team and player pool should be of national identity to the country they are representing. Why do FIFA allow this?
{Ed001's Note - they could be changed to another country, but it is more likely that they would find a different punishment.
It was always thus I am afraid.
FIFA allow it because they don't see an issue with it.}
15 Dec 2015 21:20:19 Thanks for posting this, really appreciate it! We're going to release around one a month. our next will be about the police state and Kelly Thomas. I will post that too. Thanks.
16 Dec 2015 18:40:42 Lots of good stuff in there musically as well as the message, got a lot of Jesus and Mary chain about it, joy division and Interpol all bands I like, will keep an eye out for future sounds.
