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Discussion #11942Talk Sense

19 Oct 2014 09:46:42
With the real trolls rushing through a law to silence those on social networks wanting to expose the phedophiles murderers and warmongers in power, where will the likes of the already harassed Spivy turn to continue his dissection of non events fed to us by the MSM and their masters. Thoughts please.

 

{Ed033's Note - i would imagine that Chris Spivy is going to have to not talk about certain topics on his web site.
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Discussion #11151Talk Sense

19 Oct 2014 07:14:09
How many on here truly believe there is a high chance of a third world war/nuclear war in the next decade?
Is the isis attck just the first domino for something big? It may prove very beneficial for the elite

 

{Ed033's Note - we know that they were planning ww3, they've been telling us this for decades, if people have been paying attention. However there is a possibility that they may have split into 2 groups over whether to actually have a real destructive nuclear holocaust type ww3 or to have some kind of non destructive 'soft' type kill off instead.

Because of the 'as above so below' part of their religion, i've said before that the year coming up soon where the planets will be in the most 'war like' state from their astrological point of view will be 2025.
Reet21
I have been alive only for 1 1/2 decades so don't know much.
Could you recommend some good video or link ed?
And you believe in astostrology ed?s
{Ed033's Note - If you don't know much, then this is one of the web sites to visit on a regular basis to help educate yourself.

It doesn't matter what i believe in, it only matters what the ruling elite believe and they believe in their version of astrology and therefore work towards making reality out of it.

I'm unaware of any link or video regarding this at this time.
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19 Oct 2014 18:09:56
Dont ask me how, but I do know that the Kremlin recently had the plans out again for an update. This covers general European non nuclear, general European tactical nuclear, and general global strategic nuclear. Obviously just a contingency because of Ukraine but from the sound of it the war games are in full flow.

Kim Philby
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Discussion #10806Talk Sense

18 Oct 2014 17:18:54
I wanted to talk about the conspiracy that is organized spectacles and how they have evolved over the years.

What have come to be known as sports used to be a method through which people got not only physical exercise but also grounded (ground as used in electrical physics - aka earthing). That is why most sports were performed with bear feet and minimal, if any, equipment. In this way they were affordable and beneficial to all. This was the form of sports in ancient greece, the forefather of both the modern olympic games and football (known then as episkyros).

In ancient rome, sports were aggressively transformed and took the form of mortal combat. This materialized in the gladiator games, where mostly lions, sometimes trained fighters, were pitted against untrained and unarmed slaves, or the occasional captured warrior.
"Games" were organized in periods of civil unrest as a means to pacify the people. Through mass psychology, people were coerced into identifying with the hunter and not its pray. Through this process their struggle was the hunters struggle and his victory theirs. All in all, an effective way to appease the people's desire for freedom, self rule, sovereignty, on an utterly insignificant and inconsequential scale.
Please take note that the persons recognized by the people as rulers were responsible for covering the expenses of those violence oriented games. Of course they did this by using money they had stolen from the people in the form of taxes, but what it meant is that the recognized as ruler would have to use some of the money stolen from the people to appease the people.
In rome's defense the majority of these practices were adopted during its latter stages. This is a pattern which often precedes (and perhaps ushers in) the decline of, what the establishment wants us to identify as, empires.

Fast forward to today, where sports have become a vastly more profitable enterprise. The money flowing towards the top clubs in the top leagues and the products they endorse has geometrically increased (until the last couple of years). This has in turn encouraged the establishment to further control the matches and of course their outcomes.

The way the modern games are conducted, in regards to organization, rules and required equipment has managed to eradicate the most beneficial aspect of the game, i. e. the grounding of ones self.
What has been further developed is the use of the games as a means to pacify the masses and direct their anger and frustrations towards artificial and unimportant goals (i. e. whose going to win the league).
This is not to say that there aren't those that watch sports in a detached from the outcome manner, able to appreciate the skill required to perform that which is on display, but it seems they comprise the exception.

What appears to be the stark contrast in comparing those games of old and their modern counterparts, the reason for this post, is that the people are now sponsoring the means of their pacification.
The conclusions are yours.
All I can offer is what I perceive as a dire need for reflection in regards to our actions, our submissions and our perceptions on an individual and collective scale.
zari

 

{Ed001's Note - The idea of the games in Ancient Greece was to train for war! They were a peaceful war game in essence, nothing to do with grounding at all. They were always a way of increasing physicality to compete with opposing empires.}
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Brilliant post Zari, thanks for your insight, I reall believe you are on to something here.

It will be interesting to read if Ed033 has any commentary to add.

Ryan.
{Ed033's Note - In the 1800s the ruling elite decided they would take the games that children played and promote them for adults in an attempt to keep adults mind's distracted, pacified, contented and even emotionally absorbed as well. Obviously it has worked wonderfully well for the ruling elite.
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Hey Ed001, some of the games were indeed war time action simulations but that can't be said for all of them. Javelin, wrestling etc. would fall in that category but what of all the rest?

During combat training one wants to simulate combat conditions so as to acclimatize to them. For example they would want to match and exceed the weight they will be carrying in combat so as to get accustomed to the weight of their shield, armor and weapon. Why would they then play games while naked and with bare feet?

Most of what was written about the games of those times make no mention of them being designed as combat simulations, but instead claim their purpose was to promote health, coordination, minimization of reflex times etc. Those could be establishment lies attempting to obfuscate their real purpose but they could also be accurate but lacking accounts which survived to our days for that reason.

To further illustrate the contrast between the games of those times and those of today, one can look at the forefather of the modern bull fighting games. These were games in which people would have to face a charging bull, grab the bulls horns exactly before it hit them and use them to propel themselves over it. There was no sword involved and the bull wasn't stabbed repeatedly while caged before the games.

Thank you Ryan. This is something that has been troubling me for a while and wanted to share, to see if others perceived anything similar.
zari
{Ed001's Note - I didn't say anything about simulations, why are you putting words into my mouth? Is darts a simulation? No but it is a game designed to prove the player's ability with a weapon of war. Is it really so difficult to understand?

As for the nudity, it is most likely because they wanted to avoid cheating. For instance in javelin it would be possible to conceal a sling to throw it further within a sleeve. Without one you can't.

Now drop the simulation talk, no one but you is making that claim, it is not even close to relevant. You don't need to simulate the conditions to showcase ability otherwise target shooting would never have evolved, for instance.}
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Hey Ed001, I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. I phrased it as such based on what I perceive military training to be, a war time simulation broken down to various parts, tasks and sections to enable the trainee to master different aspects of combat.

As stated in my previous comment, I do concede that some of the sports were designed with war training in mind, however not all of them involved skills relevant to combat nor required weapons.

In regards to competing naked so as to avoid cheating, that makes no sense to me. Granted, that is what I was taught at school as being the reason behind it, but it isn't all that logical. Being sleeveless and wearing knee-height togas would serve that purpose adequately. They weren't preventing people from using nanomotors after all, but rather sinew slings which are not easily concealed.
Also, what about their lack of footwear which has as yet not been addressed?

Can't argue the target shooting part, it must have evolved with that purpose in mind. From bows to firearms etc.
zari
{Ed001's Note - there were other forms of cheating other than just sinew slings, that would be just one event. It was likely to be easier to just make everyone compete naked and on an equal footing, than have some wear shoes that give better grip etc.

The games were never meant to simulate combat, but to showcase one's skill in certain areas of it. They grew out of war games but they weren't war games as such. It is the same evolution we see with target shooting and javelin throwing, target archery etc. None of them are meant to simulate it, nor even approximate the conditions that might be faced, that was saved for the soldiers' training.

I do agree on them being used as a kind of opiate of the masses though, but that was what they were always about, that is my point. The Greeks used them in just the same way as the Roman gladiatoral games, to keep the populace amused. They weren't about grounding or earthing oneself, but a way of creating amusement and competition to keep control and improve the quality of the soldiers produced.

Mind, isn't that very similar to childhood games? Do children not just play games to amuse themselves and show off their ability to perform certain tasks? So it is obviously a natural instinct that successive governments are just taking advantage of.}
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Discussion #10805Talk Sense

18 Oct 2014 11:24:06
Reading back through some of the older posts and the one about role models got me thinking.

Just who are peoples role models on this site?

I guess Franky would say Che as that's his avi, and KP went for the cosmonauts, but who else would people say?

Just out of curiosity.

I agree there are some terrible role models around today, although I would disagree with Beckham to an extent. The guy showed what you can achieve with hard work, he may have been a one trick pony on the pitch but worked hard. And compared to some of his peers seems quite grounded.

For myself I would say Stephen Hawking, the guys been dealt a really crappy hand yet is one of the bets physicists on the planet.

Mort

 

{Ed033's Note - The question about Stephen Hawking, i have is whether he is aware that mainstream physics is being purposely limited and integrates erroneous ideas but still works within mainstream physics to keep up appearances or whether he actually believes that mainstream physics is working with correct ideas.

Because i think the best physicists on the planet are selected to work in the black tech world when they're young and we never hear about them.
frankyscouser
So hard to find modern day role models because of mainstream media principles I wish muhammad ali was well enough to speak his mind because people would listen, a role model for me goes against the norm so beckham btw seems a decent feller but if he ever got political and slagged the establishment he would be targetted in many ways, sponsorship/lies in the press etc but ali back in the day put his principles first, yes correct mort che my role model and paid the ultimate sacrifice.
{Ed001's Note - Muhammad Ali was a wife beater mate. Hardly a role model.}
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I don't really believe in role models but some of the people I have found to be inspirational internationally would be Stephen Biko, Nelson Mandela, Malcolm X, Martin Lither King, Rosa Parks, Mahatma Gandhi, Orville & Wilbur Wright.

Closer to home, I would say Padraic Pearse and all the great Irishmen who died along side him in the Easter Rising of 1916.

Ryan.
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Apologies for the typo on MLK.

Ryan.
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18 Oct 2014 16:14:34
I'll keep saying Sophie Scholl.

I cried when I found out Gagarin had died, by all accounts a very nice man.

And Ghandi as well.

People are not perfect. All have flaws. Its how people overcome these flaws to inspire others.

Kim Philby
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18 Oct 2014 16:18:13
Closer to home
Bhagat Singh (Indian freedom fighter read on him really I inspiring)
Chandrashekhar Azad
internationally Tesla, Lincoln, Da Vinci
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Discussion #10804Talk Sense

18 Oct 2014 09:17:37
I was asking myself yesterday - how come there wasn't a terrorist attack at the Olympics or World Cup? Surely this would be an idea time to have had one if you were an extremist, or carrying out a false flag - would be talking 10's of thousands dead. Any idea why it didn't happen?

JG

 

{Ed033's Note - The false flag operation known as 9/11 woke up a heck of a lot of people and it appears they only want to carry out false flags sparingly (when they think they have to) or as experiments.

The Boston bombings was an experiment, which was a planned drill they switched to being a real event like 9/11 and 7/7 to see if they could get the people in a city to agree to 'marshall law' being carried out in the city.

This experiment worked as the people of Boston welcomed the military occupation to save them from the nonexistent terrorists.

Sandy Hoax was an experiment, which was a planned drill in a closed school but instead of switching it to a real event, just told the public it was a real event instead, to see whether they could get the public to believe a non existing event really happened (as it appears no children died of gunshots in that school) and from that non event, get people to demand the government do something about gun control.

This experiment half worked in the fact that people believed the non event was real but failed as the people did not demand the government do something about gun control.
Reet21
18 Oct 2014 11:54:45
Imo a false flag at sporting event wouldn't serve any purpose. It would be a global event. Perhaps could provide an excuse like 9/11 but for me it would be too risqu�.
One thing I have always wondered why the elite haven't targeted some Christian monument. It would provide them with the license to attack all Islamic countries.
As far as an extremist attack is concerned those guys work with the elite bar the few small violent groups
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Discussion #2328Talk Sense

17 Oct 2014 20:59:00
Ok guys and eds,

Here's one that's always confused me, crisis actors. If these are indeed used how come we never get 'leaks' from them, there are plenty about the Boston bombings using them, I mean these are low paid extra's by all accounts so why would no one break ranks and leak the stories?

 

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How do you know they are low paid extras Chris? Type Adriana Victoria Munoz into a search engine and see what comes up. Don't ever underestimate the power of blind patriotism augmented by a nice monthly pay cheque, especially in the US.

Ryan.
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Chris the REDman
Well tbh mate with the amount of people u would need to pull off an operation like Boston it would mean a hell of a lot of money to keep them all silent, in all honesty though buddy I don't know that's why I'm asking peoples thoughts
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Blue Lee
It's impossible to keep that amount of people silent. Only one would have to break ranks, and could earn a small fortune, admitably they'd have to run for their lives, but I'm sure that the Money some people would pay for that sort of story would be worth it to some people. Imagine how much it would be worth to prove the moon landings were faked, or the CIA killed JFK??
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frankyscouser
Why would you leak anything if you got paid and if you did spill the beans you would prob have a nast accident? or who is to say cia agents can not be actors after all they had a ex actor as a president, now the have presidents who could easly pass as actors.
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17 Oct 2014 23:56:10
More like patriotism and a nice veiled threat to keep your mouth shut or it's prison, aslyum or the morgue.

Kim Philby
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Discussion #5008Talk Sense

17 Oct 2014 14:27:54
{Ed033's Note - The Georgia Guide Stones "20 14" cube stone that was inserted earlier in 2014 was removed and smashed on 25 Sept 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83T8XFYeIks

 

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I wonder if it is related to a specific event present/future?

Ryan.
{Ed033's Note - i listened to Jay Weidner on Rense, he seems to think the mainstream media will be told to get everyone scared about ebola and governments will be told to implement forced mandatory vaccinations against ebola.

Jay Weidner went on to say, those forced mandatory vaccinations contain something that will start to wipe most of us out to conform to the 500 million population number on the Georgia Guide stones. And all this may happen by 2016.

The cube had on its faces, 20, 14, 8, 16, MM, JAM
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Well the mainstream media have certainly got everyone scared about ebola. I imagine that international travel will be the first step in mandatory civilian vaccinations. Armed forces, civil servants, then of course there will have to be some fake celeb vaccinations and everyone will be rushing to be next.

Very interested to hear any deciphering of the numbers and especially the letters on the cube.

Ryan.
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Other than the date those numbers obviously form 16/08/2014, in the version of numerology I am familiar with they would translate to:

20 - duality of the whole (all/fool)
14 - unity of structure
8 - justice (perpetuity/infinity)
16 - unity of potential
MM could be upside down WW (last letter of greek alphabet: omega) - duality of ending (as in the beginning and the end - the alpha and the omega)
JAM - I have no idea what it could mean

If one wants to find the alphanumerical value of the english alphabet I imagine the answer could be found in the schematics shown at the beginning of the presentation of the bock saga, as english is a germanic language.
zari
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Discussion #9409Talk Sense

17 Oct 2014 13:36:50
I have always been intrigued by the library at Alexandria and what happened to the knowledge held within its walls. Could someone point me to some theories about what happened to the contents, or, do we all believe everything was destroyed? Could some of the 'Knowledge of the Ancients' have been what was found in The Holy of Holies beneath Solomon's Temple? Thanks in advance

 

{Ed033's Note - Under the Vatican is a library that is allegedly around 11 miles in length. It is alleged that the knowledge that was held in the Library of Alexandria is in that underground Vatican library.

It's possible that some of this knowledge was also found under the where the Temple was during the First Crusade
Reet21
17 Oct 2014 14:21:22
Ed the Secret Archives or something else?
{Ed033's Note - i don't know
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17 Oct 2014 18:51:50
is that counting or not counting the vaults crammed with art, loot an various other bits of wealth.

Always thought it a cheek that they have all this priceless art just stuffed away gathering dust. If they built a museum and put it on show I'd willingly pay to get in, as long as the money went to the needy and deserving. Which let's face it it probably wouldn't.

Mort
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The Vatican opened its library to the public about a year ago. Unfortunately they have decided to withhold the list of the books it actually contains. However, they have stated that if one knows the book they are looking for by its title, they will be given access to it. Anyone know the title of any long suppressed books and their original respective titles?
zari
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Discussion #9220Talk Sense

17 Oct 2014 11:26:45
when lee rigby died and a few people were saying it was hoaxed and staged I thought they were talking s**t, now I am unsure for a few reasons which I will explain.

here is a link that will tell you better than me.
Nick Kollerstrom and Deborah Williams of Kent Freedom Movement talk about the woolwich incident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGWkuyc3MpM

here is another link
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=85622

i at the time when this happened found it weird that a guy with supposedly blood all over his hands brandishing a meat cleaver to a calm supposedly member of the public, not sure about you guys I would have usain bolted away from him, like I said I am 50/50 on this and I like to find out more info about something before I write anything but its the aftermath of the event that makes me more suspicious, the man who questioned this event Nick Kollerstrom who also question 7/7 events was on richplanet. net with richard d hall, after the show was aired richplanet was told the show would not be broadcast in the future (even with its good ratings) no reason was given to hall on why, so you can make up your own conclusion, another thing chris spivey has a blog with many followers and he looked into the rigby case and he has got illegally arrested twice and his daughter who has a small child who is now getting threatened with social services (Ed007 knows a lot more about this than me)

watch the video, read the link and ask yourself why are the police/security agents getting involved in this?

 

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Will read it and let you know Franky. I have an odd uncertainty about this too, and I have a lot of respect for Nick Kollerstrom. The Spivey arrests are highly suspicious too.

Ryan.
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17 Oct 2014 13:07:12
Good read. Loads of inconsistencies. Although I think Spivey arrest is more because of the sensitivity of the issue.
The purpose of the attack was to clearly show that the Koran preaches violence (btw which it does not)
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17 Oct 2014 13:43:42
Without getting bogged down in the particulars of this case and apologies for going off on a tangent.

But the question is, what are the police and security services for?

Its in the name, the police police the people, its law enforcement, its looking for wrong doers. But who makes the laws, who decides who is doing wrong? Who classifies the people as criminals that need their behaviour policing?

And the security services, well service implies their doing you a favour. Even if your paying handsomely for the privilege. But just who are they making things secure from?

Kim Philby
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That's a cracking question KP. There are a few people on here that I actively look for their comments and I enjoy reading what you have to say.

I've a question. With all these police cutbacks, less bobbies on the beat etc. Are we or can anyone see a time when the policing in this country becomes privatised? Or partially privatised? Or is that part of the point you were making?

AngryChef
{Ed033's Note - yes, there are plans to privatise 'policy-ing' out to private companies who will employ officers and then there will be no hiding the fact that it's all about the money with the police.
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Cheers Franky, I'm interested in this so will read it and let you know.

I've been following Chris Spivey relatively closely and the way he's been treated recently is disgraceful, yet sadly predictable. At times like these we all need to stick together and it's great to see many of his followers have been actively helping him by overloading the police, social services etc. with emails and phonecalls. Positive action for once, let's hope it continues.

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Discussion #10860Talk Sense

17 Oct 2014 11:26:54
How many people are really at the top of the pyramid? Are there some kind of demonic entities at the top of world control?

 

Supasub
I sometimes think my mother in law is up there somewhere. Along with the bloodlines and the other people mentioned on here.
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frankyscouser
Must be related to my wifes bloodline supasub, definitely not human.
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Discussion #2113Talk Sense

17 Oct 2014 03:19:37
Hey ed, has the 9/11 page been Made yet? If so where is it?

 

{Ed001's Note - not yet mate, Ed033 has been busy with something else, so not had the time yet. The player ratings stuff is keeping him distracted right now.}
Aron
No worries, thanks guys
{Ed001's Note - I did a short intro piece for it yesterday, so it should hopefully be up and running soon.}
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Discussion #11150Talk Sense

16 Oct 2014 15:07:32
The holy grail-templar treasure was something that always intrigued me
What does everyone think the holy grail really was and what did the templars find under Solomon temple?
Was it just a cup or jesus-mary bloodline

sorry for the several questions new on here so trying to get everyone's views

 

{Ed033's Note - In A.D. 70 the Romans went into Jerusalem and Jerusalem was razed to the ground and the ruling group in Jerusalem had to flee to Europe. This ruling group in Jerusalem just before fleeing hid some secret stuff under the Temple of Jerusalem and made a prophesy amongst themselves.

This prophesy was that in 1000 years time, the descendants of this ruling group would take back and rule Jerusalem again. The ruling group families possibly called themselves at some point, ‘Rex Deus' and they would tell one of their children that there was a secret under the ruins of the temple of jerusalem and about the prophesy and to get themselves into powerful positions to bring about the prophesy around 1070 A.D.

By 1070 A.D. a few of the ‘Rex Deus' people had got themselves high up into the church and probably had the ear of Pope Urban II who blessed the Crusades that officially started around 1095 A.D.

The Crusades failed for the ‘Rex Deus' families in so far as they did not permanently retake Jerusalem at that time but they did recover the secrets under the ruined Temple of Jerusalem. It appears that they became fabulously wealthy though because of those secrets they recovered and became head of the Knights Templars.

Those secrets led to the building of the magnificent Cathedrals (such as Notre-Dame) across Europe using the new knowledge within those secrets.

What else was found under the temple is unknown but possibly some of it was buried at Rennes Le Chateau and was found by Berenger Sauniere.
Reet21
16 Oct 2014 15:52:38
Imo there was some sort of symbolic treasure. Not gold but documents and stuff which could be used for blackmailing.
What was the name of the book from where dan Brown sourced his material?
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Chris the REDman
The knights Templars have always intrigued me, did they really execute them or were they reformed just under a different title?

1 thing is for sure the powers at the time certainly gained from them and they had so much power I believe only the pope could take them diwn.


Am I right in thinking they were the first group to introduce a sort of banking format? I'm sure I remember hearing u could place your money in there vault in 1 country and you would be issued with a slip of paper where if u went on a journey obviously u didn't want to carry your money on you, so once u had reached your destination you would issue your slip to the Templars of that country and they would hand u your money minus a commission for using there vault.
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That's interesting Chris about the Templar's being bankers. If true, it would make sense given the bankers still rule us today.

I believe the Templar's who survived went on to form other secret societies and passed on their knowledge via these groups to where we are today, still being run by individuals who are members of the modern equivalent groups.

Harold
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The Templars did indeed create a banking structure as described above. While they were persecuted heavily in France it was less so in other countries. The true reason for their troubles was this treasure they accumulated because of the banking system. Philip France was after their treasure and instigated the persecution. As an aside this was on October 13th 1307, considered by many to be the real reason behind friday 13th being seen as an omino day now.
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http://gbtimes.com/life/knights-templar-and-international-bankings-origins

article on what Chris and anonymous replier said. Decent enough
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