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07 Dec 2013 15:14Discussion #10492Talk Sense

07 Dec 2013 15:58:49
{Ed033's Note - The Japan government enacts state secrets act which allegedly allows the japan government to define a person as a terrorist if a person imposes their opinions on others.
http://tinyurl.com/ks4krzv

George Bernard Shaw - if you're not useful to society, you should be killed. How far away from this are governments?

Not Registered08 Dec 2013 09:01

They are already doing this to us aren't they?
Slow poisoning through contaminated foodstuffs and water. All artificial wave emitting machines, set to frequencies detrimental to our healths. Chemtrails covering the skies. Approved drugs that kill rather than heal. Inflated land prices forcing people "of the same class" to live in the same concentration camps.
In his next life, he is going to be born as one of the victims to his concepts.
Zari

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07 Dec 2013 09:57Discussion #10491Talk Sense

07 Dec 2013 10:18:50
If I may make a suggestion. This is not intended in a condescending way. It is an attempt at having more constructive discussions.

Agreeing or disagreeing on posts doesn't really help anyone improve. Presenting arguments for or against a post, helps establish a dialogue from which one can learn.

For example, if I am saying something irrational, I would like to know in what way it is irrational so I can better view the particular subject. Agreeing or disagreeing leaves me stagnant, perplexed and baffled.

The way one thinks is more important than what one thinks. When beliefs are wrong they are in need of abandonment or replacement, logic can only improve.

Ed033 bailed me once, so I'd like to make this clear. I don't say "In my opinion" when I begin a post, but it is always there. All anyone can share is their subjective opinion.
Zari

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06 Dec 2013 17:22Discussion #10490Talk Sense

06 Dec 2013 18:20:57
Ed, what do u think about Scientology?

AP

{Ed033's Note - I heard a rumour that L. Ron Hubbard (LRH) came into possession of a system that could benefit people by increasing their psychic ability. He then started teaching this to others. Then LRH found out that a US. government agency was tasked to stop these teachings (as it was becoming popular and spreading) and to take him out so he attempted to hide from them on a boat and used children as his communicators with the outside world because he didn't trust any adult.

This government agency then took LRH out and took over control of the scientology movement and the teachings became utter B.S. This government agency then created loads of different B.S. courses, which are being sold to people, who think they're getting some special teachings.

The courses on tape, cd, dvd allegedly contain brainwashing techniques.

If you go to a 'retreat' where a course is being taught, you're allegedly being opened up to mind control techniques such as Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP).

People who get sucked in are tasked to sell courses to others and recruit others into scientology and some people can't seem to escape from scientology. I think it's best to stay away from it.

Not Registered06 Dec 2013 17:38

Hey Ed033. Any idea if the original system can still be found? Perhaps the name of a book?
Zari

{Ed033's Note - I would say that the original system could be available (if you knew the right original members) and I bet these top hollywood scientology actors probably paid a huge amount for it but that doesn't mean they got the real deal.

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Not Registered07 Dec 2013 13:31

Thank you for the reply Ed033. Quick follow up if I may.
Could you recognize the pattern the injected disinformation follows?
In other words, what should I be extra skeptical about while going through the material?
I am more interested in the techniques rather than the history.
Zari

{Ed033's Note - Sorry, I don't know. You might be able to recognise dis-info if you knew enough but who knows enough in the first place?

For people interested in mind control:

Hypnotherapist's view on the Government 'Nudge' Unit (The Government Behavioural Insight Team)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YobjG4qITV4

Mind Control in the 21st century - Dr. Nick Begich presentation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1_XUdQo2AU

Undetectable Mind Control - Fritz Springmeier presentation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRa3XbanWs

Monarch Mind Control techniques
http://www.emhdf.com/Monarch-mind-control.pdf

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06 Dec 2013 11:35Discussion #10489Talk Sense

06 Dec 2013 12:23:08
Just watched this on Youtube about a document published by Nasa stating their plan for global domination, and the future of warfare. Just wondering iif anyone else has seen or heard of this before, and if so what did you make of it?

{Ed033's Note - it's very real. There is a secret war going on to eliminate all humans as they exist now from the surface of the Earth and replace them with an artificial version of humans (as slaves) because the controllers think we are too sensitive, use up too many resources and cost too much to keep.

Not Registered06 Dec 2013 15:20

In that case ed, it's one if the most terrifying things I have ever watched.

{Ed033's Note - They just keep bringing things in step by step. Just look at what they've brought in over the past 10 years. It appears that only a fraction of 1% of people can actually see what's coming in if they bring it in step by step, a bit at a time.

It appears that we require at least 2% of the adult population to 'wake up' for any kind of 'push-back' but we're currently at a fraction of 1%.

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Not Registered06 Dec 2013 17:22

Link to the Nasa War document against humanity.
http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/nasa-thefutureof-war.pdf
Zari

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Not Registered06 Dec 2013 21:15

I've become quite a fan of Deborah Tavares. She talks a lot of sense about this and many other issues.

Ryan.

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Not Registered06 Dec 2013 22:47

I tried explains this all to my brother earlier who is a law student, he dismissed it all as a conspiracy, and wouldn't even look at the evidence. For me this is the most terrifying part as he is a very good person, but has been brainwashed to believe what he's been told by schooling and mainstream media. If we can't even convince the good people, and intelligent I might add, then what hope do we have in convincing anyone else. A lot of my friends and family have also seen this change in me and my views, but are unwilling to take any of it on board. How do we go about convincing that other percentage to make up 2% of the population of what's actually going on in this world?

{Ed033's Note - No one yet has come up with the answer of how to wake people up. People will just become the 'black sheep' of their family, if they try to persuade their other family members when they're not interested.

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Not Registered07 Dec 2013 09:57

Hey anon, I have the same issues with getting through to some people close to me.
This sounds terrible, but I have been contemplating of devising a behavioral modification course (brainwashing) so as to decondition them.
Begin by bringing implanted trigger words from the subconscious to the conscious. Explaining their etymology during the process, pointing out how the establishment manipulates.
Instill a sense of security in their lives. Train them to see abundance in themselves and everywhere.
Then supply them with information gradually increasing in complexity.
Breach their trust in the establishment, provide new ways of seeing the world, instill inquisitiveness in them and the ability to deconstruct information presented to them.
Zari

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05 Dec 2013 22:30Discussion #9061Talk Sense

05 Dec 2013 23:20:43
I find it stomach churning the way the mmainstream media are now kissing ass about Nelson Mandela. , if Mandela was fighting the good fight now he would be in Guantanamo bay, am just pointing out how demonizing a figure suits them when they feel like, r I p Nelson Mandela!

Not Registered06 Dec 2013 08:54

Well said Franky, you took the words out of my mouth.
RIP Nelson Mandela.

MrTrotskysGhost

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Mr.Jones06 Dec 2013 08:54

Nelson Mandela is sorely missed today over here, It's actually quiet weird everyone I meet is in a daze almost! going to be celebrating in his honour tonight, only way he would of wanted!

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Not Registered06 Dec 2013 12:59

What about the Winnie Mandela "football team"? They weren't really sunshine and light were they. Just putting it out there.

Supasub

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Lucas Lovechild06 Dec 2013 15:20

I'm getting severe grief at work because every time someone mentions his death I ask if we'll do the same when Martin McGuinness dies.

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Not Registered06 Dec 2013 17:22

The polluted stream wants us focusing on revolutionaries that fought issues that have been resolved.
I wonder how many modern day revolutionaries are murdered everyday all over the world, whose actions and names we will never know.
Reject their emotional manipulation. Resist, disobey, create your own way.
Zari

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05 Dec 2013 21:40Discussion #1984Talk Sense

05 Dec 2013 22:38:50
Dr. Judy Wood - 9/11 Facts

Very informative radio interview for people like me who haven't read the book yet.

http://youtu.be/sRlYwyqDA3Y

Ryan.

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05 Dec 2013 20:30Discussion #10488Talk Sense

05 Dec 2013 20:17:48
Is beforeitsnews.com as far fetched than the national enquirey?

Was recommended that page but seems to be way out there and I believe most things?

RoscoJef

Not Registered05 Dec 2013 21:35

I think it is one of the most unreliable and 'right winged' sites out there. It gives me a laugh these days to see some of the utter tripe that gets posted on there. Of course others will disagree, but, let's say you should take most of its 'exclusives' with a tonne of salt.

Captain Needa

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Not Registered05 Dec 2013 23:02

A load of nonsense really

Roscojef

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05 Dec 2013 16:36Discussion #10487Talk Sense

05 Dec 2013 17:31:52
Lloyd Pye was diagnosed with cancer a few months back and is still fighting it.

For anyone who doesn't know him I recommend watching "Everything you know is wrong" and also recommend watching his videos about the "StarChild".

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05 Dec 2013 08:07Discussion #10486Talk Sense

05 Dec 2013 06:03:57
Does anyone believe that a battle took place between aliens and us troops at the dulce air base? Neil.

frankyscouser05 Dec 2013 12:49

Phil schneider is a very interesting character and I tend to believe most (not all) of what he is saying, he predicted martial law in the states in the late 70s early 80s which never happened but what he described about the usa being a police state is bang on now, what I found really interesting was his father being a nazi and recruited by the cia and no doubt had powerful connections and hence phil schneider not being from "a normal drilling contractor" do I think a fight took place between aliens and military?its that far fetched I DO BELIEVE IT HAPPENED, his death only fuels my belief that he was telling the truth, to be honest I do think he jazzed it up.

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Not Registered05 Dec 2013 13:40

Thanks franky. just started reading up on this. do u know anything about valiant thor the alien who supposdley worked for the us goverment in the 60, s?
Cheers neil

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Not Registered05 Dec 2013 13:40

Thanks franky. just started reading up on this. do u know anything about valiant thor the alien who supposdley worked for the us goverment in the 60, s?
Cheers neil

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frankyscouser05 Dec 2013 14:23

Yeah the so called alien, I do not no what to make of that claim but no picture apart from the famous one has been found, its like he vanished from the face of the earth, pardon the pun.

{Ed033's Note - Allegedly this is the real picture of Valiant Thor. The guy with the huge neck in the foreground:

http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2013/09sep/VS-130926-dweir.php

Also look for interviews on youtube with Anthony F. Sanchez talking about his book UFO highway.

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frankyscouser05 Dec 2013 15:44

Never seen that pic edd, that guys neck is like he is on steroids very muscular, so the dark hair thor doing the rounds are not him?

Am I looking at the right guy?looks like schneider.

{Ed033's Note - Phil Schneider is bottom left in the pic, Valiant Thor bottom middle. Appears that the other picture on the net is fake

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04 Dec 2013 22:51Discussion #10485Talk Sense

04 Dec 2013 23:48:49
{Ed033's Note - Intentional climate change by geo-engineering the sky via chemtrails
New documentary called Look Up!

Not Registered05 Dec 2013 00:22

More video on the geo engineering, 'Look Up' documentary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZwEzL_cX08

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04 Dec 2013 15:07Discussion #10484Talk Sense

04 Dec 2013 15:45:55

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517002 /The-Angel-9-11-Haunting-face-appear s-mangled-girder-taken-EXACT-spot -plane-smashed-Twin-Towers .html?ICO=most_read_module
Not a conspiracy but does anyone else think the face looks like an Alien grey?

frankyscouser04 Dec 2013 15:53

Seen it a while back, a bit like clouds if you look hard enough you can see faces.

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Not Registered04 Dec 2013 16:56

Agree with franky, you can find strange looking things in most abstract shapes if U look hard enough.

H

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Not Registered04 Dec 2013 18:03

I remember at the time people claimed they could see bin Laden's face in the smoke plumes. if you looked hard enough.

Mort

{Ed033's Note - All this faces in the smoke, is all part of the dis-info 'smokescreen'

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Not Registered04 Dec 2013 18:24

Well at the time it was just hysteria.

Although I guess they could use it to promote to the more gullible.

Mort

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Not Registered05 Dec 2013 00:22

Deffo a fake. trying to distract us from the truth!

red blancmonge

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04 Dec 2013 10:55Discussion #1983Talk Sense

04 Dec 2013 11:49:52
Just wanted to share this. Not necessarily a conspiracy theory movie, but it highlights all the cracks in the illusion of 'The American Dream'. It shows the extent of how the US is run by corporations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6niWzomA_So

Exotiva.

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