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Discussion #9060Talk Sense

03 Dec 2013 18:48:12
The people's voice are having technical problems and they have warned the the group who are supposed to be lookin after these issues are getting warned, reading between the lines the Pv think it's orchestrated.

 

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Discussion #2474Talk Sense

03 Dec 2013 14:11:16
Now sorry if this is a bit vague but it was nearly 4 o'clock this morning I was listening to internet radio shows and came across a guy that says there is trouble brewing for Tony Blair and Rupert Murdoch.
It seems that Blair turned down an invitation to Bohemian Grove and people are not best pleased to say the least. Blair is expected to lose a lot of his power over the snub
The vague part is something to do with Blair has been having an affair with Murdoch's wife for years to the point of questioning parentage of Murdoch's children.
Sorry I don't have any more information as I said I was half asleep and the Mrs was moaning I had the radio on at that time in the morning.
Has anyone else heard anything or know any more about it all.

Thanks, Ed007

 

{Ed033's Note - Tony Blair Allegedly Urged to Attend Bohemian Grove Ritual
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un-8mLwe8g0
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I had seen the apparent email/message Blair was sent but dismissed it as most likely a fake at the time. Would be interested if anyone has more info on this though.

Harold
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Discussion #2247Talk Sense

03 Dec 2013 14:20:51
So what are your thoughts on the new "driverless" cars, seems like a good way to track you and stop you going where they don't want you to.

 

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I think it would drive me round the bend!.

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Discussion #1982Talk Sense

03 Dec 2013 12:59:00
Here's an update on the Rigby terrorist attack/false flag/trial/farce*
http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/the-old-bailey-comedy-festival-day-1/

(*delete two words)

MrTrotskysGhost

 

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Just doing my research on this one and i'm part way through reading Chris spivey's articles. There is something dodgy about it all but not sure what exactly to think yet. The whole 'staged event' theory sounds far fetched but much stranger things have happened.

Are there any other good sources of info on this subject?

I like chris's articles but sometimes they come across as so angry and ranting that I feel a small bit of credibility is lost, sadly. His style is very entertaining to read though I'll give him that.

Harold
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I agree harry, like you spivey talks a lot of sense on certain subjects but to question time of death and you do not actually see the car hit rigby is clutching at straws plus digging in to rigby family affairs was below the belt in my opinion, the only thing that does not sit like I have mentioned on previous posts was in my opinion these people were allowed to commit a crime sorely for the reaction it got in this country and the unseen fake war on terror they want us to believe.
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Yep franky, personally thought he went a bit far bad mouthing rigby and looking into his family past. I think he makes some valid points (the way the road seems to be blocked off by police prior to event is strange) but he'd get through to me better by keeping it simple and scientific rather than his rants which sometimes go off on a tangent.

Like I said, if any1 has another decent source it would be appreciated!

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05 Dec 2013 09:54:22
You'd like to hear more info on the case without feeling like your at an Al Murray gig? Maybe you're going to have to be the one to do it. pea
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@Harold
You can find loads of info about the case in the MSM. Just read the statements reportedly made by witnesses, then take note of all the contradictions. There are many. The Angel of Woolwich is yet to make an appearance as is boyadee, why?
aangirfan website is one of only a few that mention this particular false flag and most who do are merely scourcing from Spivey anyway. Maybe he's the only one with balls enough.

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Discussion #10483Talk Sense

03 Dec 2013 12:58:50
I am lead to believe that there are some important dates coming up in this month.

23/12/2013 marks 100 years for the Federal Reserve Act of 23/12/1913. Some circles claim that it thus becomes invalid and for FED to continue operations a new act must be passed. The FED says that it was granted that power indefinitely and I can't imagine them saying otherwise.

24/12/2013 is the deadline by which NESARA (National Economic Security And Reformation Act) must be implemented in the USA. This is also a controversial matter, with some claiming it does not exist or was never signed.

Some of its provisions are:
-Forgives credit card, mortgage, and other bank debt accumulated due to illegal banking and government activities.
-Abolishes income tax.
-Abolishes IRS, creates flat rate non-essential "new items only" sales tax revenue for government.
-Increases benefits to senior citizens.
-Restores Constitutional Law.
-Establishes new Presidential and Congressional elections within 120 days after NESARA's announcement.
-Monitors elections and prevents illegal election activities of special interest groups.
-Creates new US Treasury currency, "rainbow currency, " backed by gold, silver, and platinum.
-Initiates new U. S. Treasury Bank System in alignment with Constitutional Law.
-Eliminates the Federal Reserve System.
-Restores financial privacy.
-Retrains all judges and attorneys in Constitutional Law.
-Ceases all aggressive, US government military actions worldwide.
-Initiates first phase of partitioning justice, distribution of vast wealth which has been accumulating for many decades. (read last long post)
-Releases enormous sums of money for humanitarian purposes.
-Enables the release of suppressed technologies such as alternative energy devices.

After its implementation in the USA, the other 182 signatories must honor it as well.
Zari

 

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Zari, I seriously doubt that NESARA will be implemented by the U. S. or anyone else.
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If all these are indeed real and not some hoax, I do not see how they could not implement an act they signed. Governments all over the world would dishonor their contracts and the establishment would loose all control.
The USA is currently serving as the enforcer for the establishment and in that role, one must keep up pretenses.
Supposedly, it all began when a part of the military, headed by a general, stormed the white house and forced Bill Clinton to sign this act.
The false-flag attack on the twin towers was, among other things, an effort by the establishment to delay the implementation of this act.
In 22/08/2002 the ICJ (International Court of Justice) ruled that the signatories of this act must honor their contracts.
According to some claims, the only way for the USA to not honor their contract and avoid being reprimanded by the ICJ is to produce an excuse and establish martial law.
Personally, I do not think the establishment has the power to stage another false-flag attack, there seems to be too many disagreeing voices in key governmental positions.
Even if they somehow managed to pull of another false-flag operation, I cannot see the american people falling for it again.
Zari
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Discussion #10482Talk Sense

02 Dec 2013 19:41:06
Hi ed033, firstly i'd like to thank you for all your valuable input on this site, much appreciated.

Next, i'd like to ask you a question if you have time. I've been captivated by dr. Judy woods theory on where the towers went since watching some links provided on this site. but I thought i'd check out what the architects and engineers for 9/11 truth thought about it, as they have done so much good work in disproving the official story. It turns out they strongly disagree with her findings (perhaps not surprising as it goes against their theory) and point towards things like the very high tempratures recorded which are synonymous with thermite, the presence of thermitic material and other particles created by high temps in the dust, as well as the vast witness accounts of sounds and smells of explosives. These are not explained by her theory.

they did not however explain the lack of seismic activity which I personally thought was the most pertinent bit of evidence she presented. But could this be explained somehow else?

I'm beginning to err back towards the explosives/thermite theory just because it is easier to imagine, but due to my indecisiveness was wondering what the other users and ed033 think on the subject?

thanks, Harold

 

{Ed033's Note - The alleged reason why the the architects and engineers for 9/11 truth don't go with the Dr Judy Wood black technology directed energy that causes the towers to turn to dust, possibly by molecular dissociation (so the towers don't hit the ground causing the man made floor called 'The Bath Tub' to crack and flood Manhattan), is because people in general won't believe that and architects and engineers in general don't believe such technology exists.

It's very important though to read Dr. Judy Wood's book, Where Did the Towers Go? if you're at all interested in 9/11 to actually see what evidence there is.

I don't have a problem that there was some explosives used somewhere as part of 9/11. There is also some things like the alleged higher levels of tritium that isn't explained.

No one yet can explain everything that went on, on 9/11 and trying to explain it in terms of white technology like the architects and engineers for 9/11 truth do is ridiculous.

There's more going on here than we know. We have to look outside the box to get at the truth and the answers must lie in black technology.
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Thanks for the reply ed. I am considering buying the book along with a few others for christmas so will see how I get on with it.

Harold
{Ed033's Note - ok, great. In UK a place to buy it from is: http://www.richplanet.net/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=61
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Personally, I think Dr Wood's theory is the only one that is plausible. There are too many things that can't be explained by the thermite/thermate theory. This theory was originally put forward by Dr Steven Jones, I used to think this theory was correct myself, but now think it's part of the cover up. Dr Wood has been marginalised by the 9/11 truth movement in favour of the thermite theorists. Ask yourself. Why? The tech involved in DEW's would be based on sound or electrical wave frequencies. Haarp is the tip of the iceberg IMO.
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Forgot to add my name^
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Two points; Judy Wood's presentation is truly astounding when you take the time to study it, and;
stating that something is wrong "because I don't believe it's possible" is hardly evidence to bring to the table i. e. it doesn't carry much weight (well none, actually). pea
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Although I have read extensively on her site, I have not yet read the book, so I am not in a position to agree or disagree with Judy Woods. She is impressive though, and I have an open mind on her theory.

It would be helpful to hear what other scientists and demolition experts etc think about the seismic reading. I agree with Harold that this information is central to her argument. I also agree that there is a large body of evidence that suggests multiple explosions occurred, and it has crossed my mind that there may possibly have been both black & white technology used on 9/11.

I think we all agree the official story is a lie, but as for what really happened I still have lots of questions.

Ed033 do you know if Judy Woods plans any talks on this side of the pond in 2014? I would love to go and listen to her talk live.

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{Ed033's Note - There are more anomalies on 9/11. For instance, how does anyone explain the dozens of half 'toasted' cars around the tower complex on 9/11 (some of which were turned upside down) in terms of white technology. Only black technology could explain it. Judy Wood points to the work of John Hutchinson as a possible answer but it's still important to read Dr. Judy Wood's book, Where did the Towers Go?

I don't know about Judy Wood's future plans to visit UK. Dr. Judy Wood was in UK and gave a presentation. Here is a page that contains the UK presentation amongst others:
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=339&Itemid=60

Here is a video presentation of Dr. Judy Wood at the at the Breakthrough energy Movement conference 2012 with high quality video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHyEICI0gYU
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Discussion #10481Talk Sense

30 Nov 2013 21:29:26
{Ed033's Note - Some more stuff on Lee Harvey Oswald, you may not be aware of

 

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Discussion #10480Talk Sense

29 Nov 2013 17:56:01
Currently researching Disney and the theories that the company intentionally corrupts the minds of children with influences such as extreme thinness, racism and subliminal messaging present in both the shows and even more so the films from the 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s. Anyone got an opinion on this?

 

{Ed007's Note - I've read a lot of the stuff about Disney and there is something very strange going on there:

www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_disney_bloodlinept1.htm

www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disney/Perverts.html

theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/32979

goo.gl/md5lRZ

There is LOADS to read up on mate and it is something that has really got me hooked as in I will have a snoop about whilst waiting on something etc. I also think it is a good place to start for some people just getting into conspiracies or the whole Illuminati thing, it is informative enough and the 'famous' factor keeps you interested through some tough reading.}
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I think it's more than just Disney, it's the movie industry as a whole. The reason it is more evident in the case of Disney, is because its programming is intended for children.

I think it all began with Edward Bernays. Propaganda became public relations and soon after, companies started hiring psychologists to design their advertisements. They were interested in influencing people on buying products irrelevantly of quality, functionality or necessity. The establishment however, took it a step further.
Television was created, advertisements became commercials and propaganda moved from the radio to the film.
The establishment began to dismantle the education system on a global scale, making peoples analytical thinking more alike, turning them into one target. Ignorance and insecurity became rampant.
Nowadays, public relations is called entertainment. All those triggers instilled in us during our formal "education" years (read mass programming) are exploited and reaffirmed on a daily basis. It is evident, that movie scripts are not chosen on the basis of constructive imagination, philosophical wealth and inspiration to serve the commons.

On the other hand, anyone can write a book. It does not take a large budget to create and there is no need for establishment approval for it be globally available.
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Pedophilla is connected to every conspiracy you can name one way or another and I don't think the average person on the street realises that kids are getting sold go missing get molested every day,

now try and get your head around this,
a million documented cases of kids go missing around the world each year, and that's just documented but you hardly hear of it, now imagine if it was say 1 million jewish people or roman catholics go missing each year, it would make news, so why is it ignored?think about it, its like the worst holocaust every year, 1 million kids never seen again.

i fear all around the world the kabal who want a new world order are the satanic leaders who have the power to keep this quiet and in my opinion we do not know how big this ring is and how powerful it goes up to.
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Some time ago I was discussing these mysterious child abductions with someone and he told me this hard to believe theory.
He said that the establishment has made a deal with inner-terrestrial beings, allowing them to abduct humans in exchange for technology.
These beings were not only conducting genetic experiments, but were also using children as vessels for their souls.

There were some other parts as well, but it just made it more confusing. I found it as peculiar then as I do now, but since this subject was brought up I thought I might as well put it out there.
Zari
{Ed033's Note - This sounds like the alleged deal between the US government and the greys who allegedly live under the Archuleta Mesa, Dulce. Abductions for technology.

It's still baffling why anybody believes any government has any automatic authority over them, period, let alone to 'allow' abductions.
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Well for what its worth I believe the majority of abductions and sacrifices that happen are done by satanic leaders who run the kabul because since we have walked the earth they have known about alien beings taking people the majority children and I reckon that they think it gives exterrestrials more power or like zari mentioned something to do with our souls.
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01 Dec 2013 02:26:40
Not that these things you speak of aren't real, Zari - not at all; but that they can largely serve as a cover story for bad people. pea
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Discussion #10479Talk Sense

29 Nov 2013 16:29:08
Well there is the lee rigby trail in the news, CCTV footage was shown of the moment the 2 human rats ran him over and also showed when they dragged him to the road and began there dispicable act all in the name of 'god'

What's to be said about this?! Still all made up? A false flag attack? It seems that overwhelming evidence is still not enough for people. A soldeirs brutal murder in the streets of Britain or the abduction of a child in a foreign country seem to be fair game on this sight for certain keyboard warriors.

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30 Nov 2013 10:01:38
Conspiracists take things too far. These two things were obviously as the tv said.

Dave
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frankyscouser
Listen guys from day one I never said the guy was not murdered but ask yourself this the security in the uk is very high, too high, we can bug checkup on our eu partners but ordinary people like us are fair game? they admitted the two guys were being surveyed and monitored according to mi6, draw your own conclusions, my thoughts are this was allowed to happen whether the suspects are part of it or done it of their own accord I really do not care, the establishment has allowed a young man to be slaughtered for their race hate agenda that is playing out now.
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Franky, that I can completely agree with. The powers that be let these events take place. That's my stance on 9/11 also.

AP
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That doesn't mean it wasn't staged, they could of had people higher up telling them to do this.
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No name, 'when does the stage fall'

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Discussion #10478Talk Sense

29 Nov 2013 01:24:08
Just watched Stan Lee SuperHuman and there was a guy on there who could do Telekinesis.

Does anyone believe in this sort of stuff?

They hooked him up to a brain machines thing and when he moved an object it shown he had abnormal gamma activity going off in his brain.

 

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There was a book titled "Masters of the Far East", in which a group of western scientists documented cases of people exhibiting all sorts of abilities not within mainstream science's understanding.
Also, during the cold war the USSR and the USA invested heavily in researching unconventional abilities. That research gave rise to many secret programs among which, one that was leaked under the name remote viewing.
Harvard was doing some interesting research in extra sensory perception and one of their scientists concluded that there are over fifty senses.
If we are trained to believe that we only have five sensory inputs, but in reality have over fifty, who's to say that our outputs weren't falsely quantified as well?

Mainstream science is an area occupied by fixed minds too concerned with titles and positions. Most of them receive absurd amounts of money to agree with the industry.
We are being programmed to disregard our true nature and to focus on the narrow band of the material world the establishment wants us focused on.

If you believe everything is possible, it is.
Zari
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Its the law of attraction my man!
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Discussion #9059Talk Sense

28 Nov 2013 18:59:06
this is for people who have not seen the madam who accusses mps and bankers who rule this country of being into. , well just watch it.

 

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01 Dec 2013 14:18:07
Money grabbing greedy woman with a book coming out by the way, I know this because she held it up twice. She also says I will not use the race card. but. pmsl. Oh and the woman doing the interview says no hypocrisy on her show yet the woman she is interviewing is the biggest hypocrite of all, if in doubt how about this line from MRS Whiplash. " they are using peoples taxes" pmsl again. How someone who spent her whole life avoiding paying taxes can come out with that comment I will never know.

She also says she put that picture that accidently got taken and kept for all these years on e bay for 40 grand, obviously blackmail as your average Joe could not nor would not pay that kind of money which leaves the only other interested buyers the press or George boy himself. By the way she has a book coming out in case no one noticed.
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Discussion #10477Talk Sense

27 Nov 2013 17:48:08
I would like to share something with you to which unfortunately I can provide no references.

Countries all over the world for 100 years or so, have been depositing most of the taxes collected in a trust called the Global Trust. This trust, which was created as a safeguard for future generations, was meant to be accessible by all countries, who have been depositing in it. The money in it can be used by countries, with no interest rate as it belongs to them, but it has to be redeposited to the trust in full.

To have access to the trust you need three things:
1)The signature of a president/prime minister/king/queen/head of an autocephalous church or of an internationally accredited ministry of finance (one that has graduated Harvard or London school of economics).
2)Something to put as collateral e. g. state issued bonds/gold/other resources.
3)To declare a project outlining where the money is going to be used. This has to include both commercial and public benefit works.

Immediately after its creation, the known Khazar families Rothchild, Schiff, Luzzard, Warbergs etc. took over the trust.
They began by collecting the gold of the world in their hands (see executive order 6102) in an attempt to leave countries without the necessary collateral.
This effort continues to this day in the form of downgrading countries credit ratings through their rating agencies (Standard & Poor's, Moody's, Fiji). Countries with huge national debts that are cooperating with Khazars still have AAA ratings, whereas rebellious countries with small REAL national debts have their bonds turned into junk bonds (read common toilet paper). The reason I use the term "real national debt" is because overinflated estimates are always presented by the establishment when they are attempting to destabilize an economy (see Ecuador, Rafael Correa and odious debt).
Those junk bonds are bought for 10-15% of their value by those same families, who then proceed to pressure these countries, through other channels, to sell off their resources, cheaply, to cover their debts. This concentrates even more wealth in their hands as they themselves buy those resources, handle their extraction and are also left with owning a country.

Back to the subject at hand.
There was an account of everything contained in the trust in 2012 and it was found to be $984 x 10^272.

All money loaned to countries through companies now managed by these Khazar families (IMF, World Bank) comes from that money.
They have access to this trust through their well placed puppets, withdraw large amounts of money from it and then charge the countries that receive them interest rates.
All those foreign investments, the polluted-stream media keeps preaching about, where a company comes in, builds something (port, airport, bridge etc. ), manages it for some time (usually 25-50 years) and then hands it to the government, are those parts of projects that fall under public benefit.
Zari

 

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