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14 Dec 2013 07:10Discussion #10501Talk Sense

13 Dec 2013 21:39:38
I'd like to ask the ed (s) their favourite conspiracy / unanswered subject is?
Just thought I'd ask as the previous question mentioning ancient aliens made me think.
Mine is probably where we the human race have come from, anunaki, Sumerian, ET's etc or tampered DNA and what do the people in charge know and how long has it been kept from us if my beliefs are anything close to what I think I know. Accompanied by the fact that we are possibly intentionally exposed to flouride, heavy metals and various chemicals for what purpose? Is out intuition a much dumbed down version of something greater due to a shrunken or calcified pineal gland?
Bit of a long explanation of mine but all sort of linked in my opinion.
Love this site eds and all posters inputs, been following for some time.

Supasub

{Ed001's Note - JFK conspiracy

frankyscouser14 Dec 2013 10:40

For me it was roswell that got me started.

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Not Registered14 Dec 2013 22:53

14 Dec 2013 22:14:03
Bob lazar started it all for me back in 1992. man I feel old!

Marty b

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BigRed15 Dec 2013 16:50

I just picked up a general mystery book one day, the ones that interest me the most are nature ones to do with human past, bigfoot aliens or the universe stuff like that.

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14 Dec 2013 05:07Discussion #10500Talk Sense

13 Dec 2013 21:39:48
Id like to know what folk think of assassinations of JFK, MLK to John Lennon?

if they were a thorn on the CIA, Illuminati etc why not discretely kill them why kill them the way they did?
Were they sending a message out or what and why have none happened recently to an extent.

whats your views Ed and everyone else?

RoscoJef

{Ed033's Note - You might assassinate out in the open to send a message. The message might be; if you do anything that bucks the status quo (especially anything good for humanity) then you'll be killed.

It's possible that they recognise that if they keep doing this out in the open, then people might start to question it so now they mostly either give people a heart attack or a fast acting aggressive cancer

frankyscouser14 Dec 2013 10:57

Even if you somehow discredit those icons they still have a voice with the people.

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13 Dec 2013 18:30Discussion #10499Talk Sense

13 Dec 2013 18:10:03
dont know if this series has ever been talked about but what's peoples thoughts on 'ANCIENT ALIENS'?

Not Registered13 Dec 2013 20:50

Well that's possibly our ancestors, isn't it?

Supasub

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Not Registered14 Dec 2013 04:59

I mean aren't they?

Supasub

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Not Registered15 Dec 2013 11:12

Its a theory, just seeing what people think about the series

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BigRed15 Dec 2013 16:50

It's certainly thought provoking

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Not Registered27 Dec 2013 09:43

Dreadful series.

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13 Dec 2013 12:10Discussion #10498Talk Sense

13 Dec 2013 12:59:22
Is anyone reading this aware of "The Machine"; as in actual hardware, literally a "Machine" that runs this reality? pea

frankyscouser13 Dec 2013 14:56

The only thing the "machine" springs to mind was a black project army private who claimed there was a technique or machine that was so far advanced it was from the future, not sure its the same thing your on about pea.

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Not Registered14 Dec 2013 05:29

How would such a machine come to exist? A machine implies a creator.
The universe can also be interpreted as a machine, as specific interactions within the universe give rise to specific effects.
Is this theory an alternative proposition to the "big bang"/"great expansion" theory?
Zari

{Ed033's Note - Here is Part 1 of a Red Ice Creations interview with Jim Elvidge that we could be living in a simulated programmed reality. The theory being that in a hundred years or so, we will be able to create a simulated reality. But it is actually more likely that we're already there in the future and we're all living in a simulated reality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1GgKujcTs

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frankyscouser14 Dec 2013 11:05

Read a few days about how scientist think the universe could be a hologram , so why not the moon like it has been suggested?

{Ed033's Note - Michael Talbot wrote a book called The Holographic Universe

Below is an interview with him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-kLKpQjllU

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Not Registered14 Dec 2013 17:05

14 Dec 2013 15:50:38
That may or may not be the same thing the soldier was talking about, franky, I do not know. It could be an allusion to it. They do like to tease us, and skip around the truth.
It's kinda hard to put a beginning or an end to, Zari, though i'd suggest it is additional to 'big bang' and 'expansion-collapse' theories, rather than an alternative.
Wheels within wheels, worlds within worlds, as they say.
The concept of reality being 'hi-jacked' is more along the lines of what i'm thinking.
The idea that "God" is not Creation, but rather some a*shole who has used advanced technology to entrap and enslave souls/spirits/essence and that this is where we do and will continue to exist until it is exposed for what it is. An artificial intelligence that exists in many realms of reality.
Do you know what the old name for Quantum Physics is?
More to follow. pea

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Not Registered17 Dec 2013 08:52

Thanks for all the info. I have to do some research on that matter as I haven't really come across it before, other than you mentioning it pea in an older post.
I do not know the older name of quantum physics pea. What is it?
However, I already have an idea on how to test if this is a simulation. Like any computer program, it can never account for the randomness of human behavior and thus on occasions a parameter appears that the program is not equipped to deal with. In that event it crashes, either as a whole or at least in a localized way.
Zari

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13 Dec 2013 05:51Discussion #12243Talk Sense

13 Dec 2013 03:12:02
has anyone read carl sagan's pale blue dot? reading up on some of his work and find it really interesting. ed do you have any good videos whilst I get my hands on the book?

{Ed033's Note - Good videos on which subject?

18 Dec 2013 17:06

Shaun, you stated, on the Judy wood book she states that the Chinese had a deal in place for the steel remaining. You must have made a mistake and will want to correct your source as I know it is not Dr. Wood. Anyone who has read Dr. Wood's book as I have would know this. She questions whether ANY steel was shipped to China because there wasn't really much left to ship! She challenges those who claim, "all of the steel was shipped to China" by asking to see the receipt.

It has been over 12 years since a secret technology was used to create terror and mass murder for the sake of imperialism and hegemony based on a fiat money system in its death throes. What are we as a people left with? A published scientific forensic investigation that concludes a Directed Energy Weapon "dustified" the World Trade Center complex and a group of shadowy people determined to suppress that evidence by any means. This is the sad reality that we live in.

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13 Dec 2013 05:51Discussion #10497Talk Sense

13 Dec 2013 00:23:28
Just finished researching 9/11 and there is no evidence that a controlled demolition was used on building 7, as you can see on the south face of te building, it was heavily engulfed in smoke, and that's fire, which burned ragingly, also debri from north tower crashing into building 7! I just don't see the evidence of anything conspiring. The two towers could not have been demolished

Shaun

{Ed033's Note - I guess you watch a lot of main stream media news

Not Registered13 Dec 2013 08:10

Well I guess that's it then Shaun.
Some people have told me Santa's not real either, but I've seen him loads of times all over the place.

Supasub

{Ed001's Note - I really fear for Shaun, unless he is joking. It takes a very small mind to know so little as to believe the towers fell of their own accord. Especially a tower that wasn't even hit by anything.......}

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Not Registered13 Dec 2013 09:57

13 Dec 2013 09:56:34
Great point! "Where there's smoke there's fire"! - never thought of that. Occasionally it takes a man of genius to point out something so simple. Case solved. Congratulations on being an person, Shaun.

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Not Registered13 Dec 2013 09:57

"Just finished researching 9/11"

That says it all really. There is no end to the possible research and your post certainly didn't make it sound like you have extensively understood the many, many inconsistencies in the 'official story'. Some people have been researching it for 12 years and still finding new evidence.

Can I ask, have you watched 'september 11 the new pearl harbour'? Only because it is a good one stop shop for many of the ludicrous inconsistencies in what we have been told. I can't be bothered to start listing them now as i'd be here for days and many have been discussed on the site regularly.

Harold

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Not Registered14 Dec 2013 05:14

13 Dec 2013 23:43:54
Just my opinion guys, it seems to me conspiracists can't face the facts, on your Judy wood book she states that the Chinese had a deal in place for the steel remaining. They WOULD NOT have a deal in place, as quite franky china are seen as enemies more than freinds. And it makes sense, a plane taking a chunk out of the building and the jet fuel burning at 800 * Celsius, which is highly known that steel weakens at that level. Also, you say the buildings fell straight, your wrong, in the footage you can see the building falling over one side at a start, it was flopping! The extreme heat brought them towers down.

Did you know that 90 % of the building was air? And the remaining was steel and concrete. Think about that

Shaun

{Ed033's Note - Shaun, I think the intelligence services would love to recruit you.

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Not Registered14 Dec 2013 10:29

Good post Shaun. Pity u are ridiculed on this site for having your own views on the 9/11 attacks.

AP

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11 Dec 2013 13:35Discussion #10496Talk Sense

11 Dec 2013 14:20:21
Can anyone tell me where I might listen to recordings of Coast to Coast am's recent shows now that there seems to be an onslaught against that show on YouTube?

Cheers boys.

Exotiva

Not Registered11 Dec 2013 17:11

I download these shows as an mp3 every day as a torrent from kickasstorrents. The good folk who put up the torrents usually put them up everyday so we are only ever a day or so behind. Fantastic show, listen every night to them on mp3 player. Just download from kickasstorrents, filter by age which will bring up the most recent and download with Bitcomet or whatever. Enjoy.

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VincentV13 Dec 2013 00:16

Sorry forgot to log in with above coast to coast reply post!

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11 Dec 2013 05:43Discussion #11807Talk Sense

10 Dec 2013 23:02:11
Hi i'm new to the site so here's my firsy post. I have been reading a controversial book called 'Exo-Vaticana' written by Tom Horn & Cris Putnam. They claim that the Vatican are preparing to welcome an 'alien saviour' to planet earth. This saviour is claimed to be the anti-christ who is deeply satanic and demonic. They have interviewed people from the Vatican and present their evidence which is tied back to exerts from the bible. What is an astonishing FACT however is that that Vatican have built an observatory on the top of Mount Graham in Arizona. The observatory contains 2 telescopes. One of the telescopes is an Infra-Red telescope called L. U. C. I. F. E. R - You couldn't make this up, in your face or what?

Not Registered11 Dec 2013 12:04

I have not read the book you mention but personally, I am not too fussed with what the church says and does.
Like all organized religions, it exists to extract money and instill fear. Its reading material includes, adaptations of previously written historical accounts, stolen scientific symbolism, fictional stories that attempt to impart morality (allegories) and plenty of nonsense.
All these are combined in such a way, so as to confuse to the point where one would proclaim that ignorance is bliss.

Sort of irrelevant but:
Lucifer = Luc (Read as lus, Latin for light) and Fero (Greek for bringer/carrier).
Why would the creator (->god|dog

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Not Registered11 Dec 2013 12:04

11 Dec 2013 09:09:48
One word = B. U. L. L. S. H. I. *.

God is not real, and either is the devil or whatever

We was made by a superior race

Shaun

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Not Registered11 Dec 2013 12:04

Welcome, It's intriguing but I think the lucifer bit applies to a piece of equipment used by the telescope which was Russian built and named by the Russians. I must admit though that the lucifer bit is contained in the very long name of the telescope at a stretch.

Supasub

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Not Registered11 Dec 2013 13:35

Oh it's just coincidence! Just another pebble on Mount Coincidence, that formidable peak. pea

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Not Registered11 Dec 2013 15:00

Shaun although I agree with you, don't force you opinions as fact.

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08 Dec 2013 20:47Discussion #9062Talk Sense

08 Dec 2013 21:32:11
the ukrainian protesters demonstrating about wanting in on the euro, should read the ukrainian activist rioting, I found it ironic the klitschko brothers bitch about corruption when let's just say they have been looked after even thou they are talented fighters.

Not Registered09 Dec 2013 12:24

The EU has no corruption, it is all legitimized. The ways I can explain people wanting in the EU after observing the current state of EU states is:
1)A gifted demagogue is being paid to rally the masses.
2)People prefer to be controlled by foreign, rather than domestic, puppets.
3)They are planning for a mass exodus from their country.

When did reality change through cosmetic modifications?
Zari

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Not Registered10 Dec 2013 12:06

How can you honestly say that the EU has no corruption! Must be the most evil corrupt institution going, with a mission statement of forcing the One a World Government through.

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Not Registered10 Dec 2013 16:43

The EU has no corruption. EU corruption is legitimized.
The above statement is a sarcastic one. It was an attempt at hinting at the corruptness existing throughout EU ranks, to the point it appears as if corruption in the EU has been legitimized.
Zari

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Not Registered10 Dec 2013 16:43

10 Dec 2013 17:05:20
Think you should read that again and try and wrap your mind around it. pea

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Not Registered10 Dec 2013 16:43

"The EU has no corruption, it is all legitimised".

I may have misunderstood this phrase too. I thought Zari was just being deeply sarcastic, or at the very least tongue in cheek?

You could easily interchange EU with USA. and that sentence works equally well.

Ryan.

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08 Dec 2013 13:58Discussion #10495Talk Sense

08 Dec 2013 14:01:23
Was just wondering what people make of these 'muslim patrols' in London? I can't say it is something I have read into much. Are they just as we're being told or is that a silly question?

Harold

Not Registered08 Dec 2013 14:04

They're racists and should be punished just like the EDL racists.

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Not Registered08 Dec 2013 19:25

U won't see or hear about it on the national news as it's an ethnic group and when it's Muslims it's a total no go area. But if it was EDL or BNP then u could garuntee it would make the lunchtime, tea time and night time news. They people that do the patrols have been brainwashed to such an extent they are no longer able to reason with, it's a pity because it taints the whole religion.

AP

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gibsy2109 Dec 2013 08:04

Its all part of the de-stabilization of the West. Then loudest speaking groups with regards to opposing this, are the white nationalists who are racist, therefore hold no credibility with the average and reasonable European. The way to battle this is for Joe average to stop being a wilting "pansy" to the PC brigade. You don't have to be racist to notice certain racial and or religious demographics "act" in certain ways. All the stars are pretty much aligning for the NWO and we have no understanding of the system they are using (sheeple)

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08 Dec 2013 07:21Discussion #10494Talk Sense

08 Dec 2013 04:33:53
I don't know about anyone else but I'm sick of the word conspiracy, I think this page should be called truth and opinions page ( or something along those lines) as conspiracy seems to be a "trigger" word to a lot of people, and a more simplistic terminology may be more inviting to humans who want to learn new things without being vindicated in there thoughts because of conflicting ideologies. Just a thought.

Not Registered08 Dec 2013 09:01

You are right, people have been conditioned to react irrationally to the word conspiracy. However, we should perhaps reeducate people on the meaning of the word rather than abandon it. The simplification of language tends to oversimplify the variety of experiences one can communicate and thus have.
Whenever someone reacts negatively to the word, I make a point to mention the mafia. The existence of the mafia was initially rejected as an improbable conspiracy by the authorities, but then was proven to be real and to run a lot deeper than ever imagined.
We should reclaim our vocabulary rather than surrender it. We have made enough compromises as is.
Zari

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frankyscouser08 Dec 2013 10:36

Yeah I am with you unnamed poster the only thing is we have all been drawn to this site one way or another on the word conspiracy and if I was looking for info on anything sadly I would have to type conspiracy, to be honest I can not think of a better name as truth is clean cut and its hardly that clear.

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08 Dec 2013 00:48Discussion #10493Talk Sense

08 Dec 2013 01:48:09
{Ed033's Note - Randy Powell's Ted Talk on Marco Rodin's math and open source free energy for everyone.

Not Registered08 Dec 2013 09:01

The basis of this presentation is true. The field spoken of, is indeed the unified field.
The math however, is wrong. Splitting the circle in 9 segments is a simplification of the universal mathematical model and will not accurately emulate all effects the universe is capable of manifesting. This system, though sufficient to exhibit the transition between 3rd and 4th dimension, lacks the math to recreate the full complexity of the universe. In all likelihood, it will emit radioactivity.
The top most part of the system is not there, so they will be stuck with 4th dimensional energies. In the same way the 3 states of matter (liquid, solid, gaseous), requires the 4th state (plasma) to complete a circle with a dimension separating the 1st and 4th state, this is missing the top part.
Davinich himself said the vitruvian man was an intermediary state and that its next design, one of higher complexity, would unlock the universe. They should be splitting the circle in 12 parts to represent any given dimension and 13 for a system applicable to all dimensions, with the extra node allowing for the transition from lower to higher dimensions, or in reverse.
Zari

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