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11 Oct 2013 16:53Discussion #1970Talk Sense

11 Oct 2013 17:52:53
I found the following interesting, it is an advert for the magazine but explains what the government may do if / when the country goes bankrupt and what the real state of our finances are.

http://info.moneyweek.com/urgent-bulletins/the-end-of-britain/

Jonty

frankyscouser11 Oct 2013 19:25

Good post jonty, I have said for a long time that things will get worse a lot worse and in some ways it takes that for change, do not get me wrong it will not be pleasant in fact scarey but it will be the only thing to wake the sheep up who think they will alright, it will not matter a jot if your a chav from a council estate or a millionaire from west end of london, we could have avoided all this if we did what iceland did and said no we will not pay the unjust bank loans back, I think around 2016 all of this will come to the fore, america is bracing itself for martial law and its definitely coming here as well, this is when the masses will wake up so its not all bad.

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Not Registered12 Oct 2013 18:30

Yeah read that earlier, bit worrying really.

Franky the masses may wake up but I doubt they'll be in a position to do owt about it.

Mort

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frankyscouser12 Oct 2013 21:13

Mort if things are dire enough it will happen, south america is a prime example in the 1980s were the people had enough, I posted a oliver stone documentary further down the page on here "south of the border" and the problems they had like recession/rising taxes/people losing their homes etc is happening here and will continue to get a hell of a lot worse, I think we all agree that its a matter of time before the dollar completely collapses and implodes and the day that happens watch what happens here!

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11 Oct 2013 15:14Discussion #10423Talk Sense

11 Oct 2013 13:19:35
Hey Ed, why didn't my post pass the review stage? Was it too long?
Zari

{Ed002's Note - Some one will get to it.}

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11 Oct 2013 11:29Discussion #9403Talk Sense

11 Oct 2013 12:29:25
If any1 has any links on the history of the Royal family or the history of Christianity then please post them for me.

Id like to get to the core on both subjects.

Many thanks

frankyscouser11 Oct 2013 15:23

Here is one about royalty, geordie, one of the regulars posted this a few months back and I saved it, very interesting, sorry religion does not interest me.

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/monsters-inc-the-satanic-british-royal-family-power-elite/

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Geordie Al12 Oct 2013 11:48

Cheers franky, ill watch it now. Surprised religion doesn't interest you though.

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frankyscouser12 Oct 2013 14:38

What I meant by religion does not interest me is I find other subjects more interesting even though religion is one of many layers connected to subjects I am interested in.

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10 Oct 2013 21:40Discussion #9872Talk Sense

10 Oct 2013 22:34:11
Further down the page Franky mentioned he thought someone was above the rothschilds
It's my opinion that the real power lies in Italy and in particular Venice and Rome.
Rome is obvious with the Vatican and Venice for the old Venetian families who still control Italy.
Thoughts anyone?

frankyscouser10 Oct 2013 22:39

No doubt rome is a hotbed of the occult but my main point of the rothschilds or any other bloodline like the monarchy or rockefellers believe in or take orders from a unseen/unheard entity, from what we have seen thru history the bloodlines are sadistic and believe in black magic /sacrifices and pedophillia and the real power is always silent with no trace of existing in my opinion anyway.

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Not Registered11 Oct 2013 11:28

Apparently their bloodlines trace back to Jesus. Reading the Da Vinci Code (yes parts are fictional but a lot of it is factual with evidence) I doubt that very much.

Im planning on doing more research into the rothschilds and rocker****ers 1ce I finish researching Christianity, not that i'm religious but i'm interested.

Geordie Al

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Not Registered11 Oct 2013 17:08

11 Oct 2013 18:02:18
Will try an order my thoughts, have a few things to contribute. Mort

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Not Registered11 Oct 2013 19:25

Christianity is nothing more than a Sun religion disguised as something else.

Nothing in it is original at all and can all be found in other eastern and mid eastern religions. Look at the story of Osiris for example and look at the parallels. All they did was place their new sun worshipping cult over the top of the old existing sun worshipping cults.

As for the Rothschilds, they are just what they are, their just the bankers, financiers and the money men. They take orders from others.

Who?, that is the question!

Mort

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frankyscouser11 Oct 2013 23:44

Agree mort who gives the orders?

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10 Oct 2013 21:40Discussion #9871Talk Sense

10 Oct 2013 22:30:21
Hi people I have been doing a bit of reading into the death of Gods Banker and was wondering what people's thoughts are?

frankyscouser10 Oct 2013 23:10

Well an obvious person to blame was a dead drug lord, for the mainstream media that is.

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Not Registered11 Oct 2013 13:17

Take your pick between the P2 lodge, the Vatican, the mafia or the CIA they all had motives.

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10 Oct 2013 09:32Discussion #10422Talk Sense

10 Oct 2013 10:30:06
I can explain building 7, building 7 was a CIA building, which would be packed wit explosives anyway incase of an emergency, or, fires could have for that as the 'sprinkler system' was taken out during te crash. Metal warps! So there!

Kev

{Ed001's Note - are you being serious?}

Not Registered10 Oct 2013 10:14

10 Oct 2013 10:55:02
Explain otherwise!

Kev

{Ed001's Note - easy, Building 7 was never crashed into, so try explaining why it came down.}

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Mr.Jones10 Oct 2013 10:14

Theres no way he actually is being serious! he's trying to be a clever lil troll! as no-one can be that ignorant no possible way, not even George Bush would say that for a cover up. So there!

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Garbo10 Oct 2013 11:18

Iâ€™m all for people asking questions but Edâ€™s this guy is just taking the Michael. Donâ€™t indulge him.

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Not Registered10 Oct 2013 12:59

Why would the CIA pack a building full of explosives with their own agents inside incase of an emegency? That claim has absolutely no foundation.

I read that they blew building 7 up because that's where they planned 9/11. All information about the attacks was in there. There were some other points that I can't remember.

Where did you get information about the explosives being placed there knowingly incase of an emergency? Surely that wouldn't of been held as Top Secret.

Geordie Al

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frankyscouser10 Oct 2013 14:23

Have to agree with the guys, he is looking for a wind up, like I have mentioned before I have no problem with people disagreeing with each other but my ten year old daughter could make a better argument.

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10 Oct 2013 01:32Discussion #10421Talk Sense

08 Oct 2013 23:35:44
Hi peeps, Just a thought on the Madeleine case. I have been totally intrigued by this from day one. Something from the off just did not sit right with me. Anyways does anyone else think that all this new activity, new info, new reconstruction (Crimewatch) is conveniently taking the attention away from the legal case the couple are fighting against Mr. Amaral right now. I don't hear anything about that. Or are the police deliberately announcing that they are trawling phone records to get someone to buckle? As I have said for a long, long time now. the truth will out! God bless. Davie.

Not Registered10 Oct 2013 08:31

I agree it's to take attention away from the issue that people are now thinking it can be the parents involved so this is a way of throwing that theory of track.
Body language experts suggest their something sinister with the two when being interviewed he tightens her hand when asked a question as if she's being coached in someway. Gerry is also high up in the Masonic and to also have the prime minister tony Blair get involved suggests to me theirs something not right. I don't hear a PM adding support to any other abduction in any other cases.
Theirs seriousley something not right and I think the Portuguese police have been made to look foolish in all this. They realesed the interview with Kate and she only answered something like 2 out of 48 questions they asked her again adding to their involvement.

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frankyscouser10 Oct 2013 09:16

To me this new investigation is just a smokescreen, the poor girl is dead and it tells you something that the reconstruction was not done in Portugal because everyone thinks they have slandered they first ones on the scene, I genuinely hope I am 100% wrong on MM being dead, google chris spivey about the MM case.

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Not Registered10 Oct 2013 10:16

How can you have 38 persons of interest and not one of them are from the tapas 7? Even if you do not suspect one of them, they are central witnesses to the events of that night. So you have to wonder what the true motive of this new investigation is. Coupled with the court case against Amaral, this looks to me like an attempt to convince the world that Gerry & Kate are victims as opposed to suspects.

I don't think the body of Madeleine is under Robert Murat's drive, but if it is I think Murat had nothing to do with it. Whatever is there, should be dug up and identified.

As for the phone records, it's a bit of a red herring, as all the mobile phone data from 2007 is apparently now deleted, so they only have landline data to work with.

Will be interesting to see when the photofit of the 'suspect' is released.

Ryan.

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Not Registered10 Oct 2013 11:04

As I said in my original post guys. maybe what the police are letting us know is in order to make someone 'buckle'. Maybe one (or some) of the 'tapas 9' are persons of interest. A blind man could see that this whole thing is very, very sinister. Davie.

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Not Registered13 Oct 2013 20:02

2nd poster, I don't think there is a masonic connection to this, especially through gerry mccann, due to his roman catholic upbringing and faith

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09 Oct 2013 22:55Discussion #10420Talk Sense

09 Oct 2013 23:44:52
Free energy doesn't necessarily mean the "elite" lose out, they could still charge is for it, just charge us a lot less than we're currently paying.

{Ed001's Note - plus it would lower their costs in producing it, resulting in higher profit margins. The issue is in stopping the ordinary guy in the street being able to replicate the production, in my opinion.}

Not Registered09 Oct 2013 23:20

Would it of been possible for Henry ford or an oil company to have got the Patent for a particular energy and locked it away in a vault? Rendering it useless?

Supasub

{Ed001's Note - yes, and almost certainly it has happened over the years.}

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Not Registered10 Oct 2013 12:56

Not quite free energy a la Tesla, but has anyone seen the documentary 'Who Killed The Electric Car'? It's a brilliant documentary narrated by Martin Sheen, about GM's production of an electric car that was so good that they recalled every one and destroyed them due to massive political pressure.

Interestingly, I can't access it on youtube any more. Ah yes, no censorship on the internet. Anyway it's on here for now http://vimeo.com/19863733 Hope that's ok eds. If you can't post the link, it's also available on various documentary sites. Watch the documentary before they destroy that too.

Supasub they've been burying any technology that will reduce our dependency on them for years.

Ryan.

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Not Registered10 Oct 2013 16:10

I agree Ryan, would be nice to see some of it in our lifetime though.

Supasub

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Not Registered11 Oct 2013 11:28

I know someone who invented a car that ran on sea water got bought out by the Government. Also a man who comes into my Work invented a system to provide himself free Heating from ordinary copper plumbing fittings not exactly sure how but it worked & he's been trying to get investment for it for a long time now but has unfortunately took Alzheimer's & gave up. Ordinary people can do it.

Rise & Shine

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09 Oct 2013 22:40Discussion #9036Talk Sense

09 Oct 2013 23:39:03
check this out guys, an Oliver Stone documentary about in my opinion the greatest leader in modern times, the former Venezuela leader, Hugo Chavez and the demonetization by the media and George bush.

on this site the question has always been asked, "what can we do?, we are powerless against the elite". if you watch this it will show how south america now has fought back, just watch this when you get time and see what can be achieved.

Not Registered10 Oct 2013 14:23

Good post Franky. I've done some research in the past on Chavez but not much.

He seemed like a man who cared for his people and his country. Sadly good men in power don't last that long, especially when oil is involved.

I absolutely dispise the American government and the British government. Snakes!

Geordie Al

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frankyscouser10 Oct 2013 15:16

Geordie Chavez was a man of the people who would have died for his principles, how many politicians can you say would do that?he has influenced the whole of south america that they are not reliant on corporations and banking loans, I think we as people can learn from south america and the legacy of the great Hugo Chavez.

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Not Registered11 Oct 2013 11:28

I agree Franky, The banks own our Government. What did 1 of the Rothschild's say?

Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863. "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws.

Geordie Al

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09 Oct 2013 21:01Discussion #10419Talk Sense

09 Oct 2013 21:43:53
Ok editorand other regulors, tell me some reasons why a plane could not do the damage to a building, have you ever see. A plane hit a building before? No so you wouldn't know, metal warps at heat, the fuel burned and it was closed in which means a rise in temperature, enough for the steel to fall and collapse. Prove me otherwise! Your just a dumb American not believing someone would do this to your country, well it happened, get on with it!

Kev

{Ed001's Note - for starters I am British, for second I am not dumb enough to believe your idiotic assertion about the closed in rise in temperature. I have actually seen the footage of the Empire State Building, following being hit by a plane, which clearly shows how little damage was suffered by a building that hadn't even been designed to cope with a plane hit. Have you ever done any research into the damage that was done there? Have you ever looked into that at all? Or are you so busy accusing others of being stupid that you have failed to engage your brain before typing abuse? Perhaps you should take some time and do research into it, you might learn something. I guess it is far easier to be a troll firing off insults while hiding behind your keyboard. Unless you have something intelligent to add to a conversation, don't bother typing again, as you will just get your posts deleted.}

frankyscouser09 Oct 2013 22:19

Kev it is called conspiracy. co. uk erm american? I could go on but like me mum once said to me "IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY DON'T SAY ANYTHING!"

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Not Registered09 Oct 2013 22:55

Fire needs oxygen to burn, so being closed in would mean less oxygen. ?

could be wrong.

(I'm British/English)

Oh yeah, explain building seven.

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Not Registered09 Oct 2013 23:58

Kev I think one of them flew over the cuckoos nest :o

Ryan.

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Not Registered10 Oct 2013 13:13

Alamost Every country has done attacks on their own country before. Its to change public opinion/bring in new laws etc etc. Oh and i'm from newcastle, england.

GEORDIE Al

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09 Oct 2013 10:18Discussion #9035Talk Sense

09 Oct 2013 11:10:38
i would like to know everyone's opinion on this subject including all the edds, I think we all agree there is free energy and admitting it would be dangerous for the powerful oil cartel all over the world, my question is why has not Cuba used patterns or declared they are using free energy?are they getting signing their death warrant from the west including Russia if they admit it? I am really stumped on countries that despise the west, instead of looking for nuclear power tell the world you have found free power?

Garbo09 Oct 2013 10:57

Cuba is/was very secretive or could be money keeping them quiet

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Not Registered09 Oct 2013 12:49

09 Oct 2013 13:47:27
Could there be a bigger picture than East vs West, much the same as the left wing vs right wing dramatisation of politics? pea

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frankyscouser09 Oct 2013 17:56

It has to be bigger than east v west pea, we know north Korea hate the west values add Venezuela and Cuba so why not suddenly declare they have found free energy? something as good as free energy could cause anarchy for all leaders who want control and there is a pact between enemies?

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Not Registered09 Oct 2013 21:01

09 Oct 2013 21:53:25
Franky free energy might be free once its up and running, but I imagine r & d and installation costs would be staggering. Cuba, North Korea etc aren't exactly flush. The ones I would have expected to have put money and effort would have been red China. Russia didn't have the money until recently and that's based on the oil and gas boom so puts them in the pocket of the cartels. Mort

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frankyscouser09 Oct 2013 21:54

Maybe so mort, it could be a Pandora's box if it is made available.

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08 Oct 2013 23:13Discussion #10418Talk Sense

08 Oct 2013 02:39:05
Ed, you seem to be pretty clued up on 9/11. Every time I try to do any research on the subject I seem to get bogged down in the same old dross and can't find many decent facts.

First of all can you let me know any decent books/website where I can find good quality info about 9/11.

And secondly, why, if we take for granted that the US gov't was behind 9/11, why have they made such a bAlls up of the cover up? ( referring to all the supposed inaccuracies and holes in the explanations given)

Cheers bro
G

{Ed033's Note - The US gov't as we know it knew 911 was going to take place and took part in various parts of it and covered it up but could not have actually turned the Towers to dust as they do not possess the black technology to turn the towers to dust, therefore the secret government/secret space program/break away civilisation group, actually turned the twin towers to dust.

The reason why the twin towers had to be turned to dust and not allowed to drop to the floor is because the twin towers were standing in a manmade floor known as the 'Bath tub' that could have cracked and flooded Manhattan if the full weight of the towers hit the floor.

We know most of the twin towers did not hit the floor because of the seismograph readings. All this data and whole load more is in Dr. Judy Wood's book, called, 'Where did the towers go?'

To read Dr. Judy Wood's book, 'Where did the Towers Go?'

In UK or Europe, you can buy it from here:
http://www.richplanet.net/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=61

If you live outside of UK, you can get it from here:
http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/buy/

Also watch all the video interviews on 9/11 with Andrew Johnson and Dr. Judy Wood on this page:
http://www.richplanet.net/starship.php

Macko09 Oct 2013 13:09

All the time I have spent on here ed, or doing my own searches elsewhere, this is my first time I have seen the 'bath tub' reference. It would explain why they couldn't allow the tonnes and tonnes of metal and concrete crash to the ground. Is that topic mentioned in Dr Judy's book?

{Ed033's Note - Absolutely it is and it is not just mentioned, you see the evidence such as actual seismograph readings. Also there are other 'electrical?' anomalies that were going on at the same time such as half cooked cars, cars that were turned upside down due to the black technology being used. There's also loads more that you may not have heard before in Dr. Judy Wood's book

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