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04 Sep 2013 10:27Discussion #12477Talk Sense

04 Sep 2013 11:03:58
wanted to get some of you regular posters opinions, more so on the sky visions and comments I read on here a while ago about some sort of technology that they culd use to project a hologram onto the sky

frankyscouser04 Sep 2013 13:46

9/11 aeroplanes were rumoured to be a hologram.

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04 Sep 2013 14:40:52
The most recent handle for the use of holography you are asking about has been, I think, Project Bluebeam. There is extensive information on this all over the web. It has been linked to UFO sightings, religious imagery in the sky, chemtrails, and even the events at Fatima. My opinion on it is that it is both a very real, and very old, science. pea

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Not Registered04 Sep 2013 17:02

Ive heard many 911 theories over the years, but the hologram plane theory is rubbish imo. i'm not saying that the planes that crashed were the ones we were told had crashed. There were far to many observers all over new york that day who saw what happened with their own eyes. If even 1 had seen anything suspicious we would have heard about it. Plus the impacts allegedly registered on the torsion seismographs that are dotted all over america light wouldn't do that. I do believe the americans were responsible and I do believe actual planes struck the building, I don't believe that was enough to make the buildings collapse and controlled demolitions were used to bring the towers ( and building 7 ) to the ground. I watched some youtube videos about the hologram theory and felt it was a misdirection. I try to question everything conspiracy wise and hate to see folk being distracted by counter rumours.
On the subject of the building 7 theories, the guy that said live on tv that a decision to "pull the building" was made after the second tower came down is were we should look for answers.
All just my opinion of course as we will never know what really happened.
Liono74

{Ed033's Note - You definitely should read, 'Where did the Towers go' by Judy Wood PHd. By what you're saying, you only know 5% of the 9/11 evidence.

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Not Registered04 Sep 2013 17:57

I'll give it a go ed cheers. Just sick of the spin and b. s. like I said I always question everything! Keep up the good work mate!
Liono74

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Not Registered04 Sep 2013 22:12

September Clues also worth watching Liono.

Ryan.

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03 Sep 2013 20:13Discussion #1958Talk Sense

03 Sep 2013 21:10:08
Incase you wonder is the USA will hit Syria, the Rothchilds and Murdoch have already been given oil rights!

http://www.idt.net/about/press/story.aspx?id=41777

http://www.craigmurray. org. uk/archives/2013/02/israel-grants-oil-rights-in-syria-to-murdoch-and-rothschild/

What a world we live in eh.

Murp.

Not Registered03 Sep 2013 20:28

A tit bit for ya, Isreal really means Isis Ra. It's from ancient Egypt as I'm sure most of you will know.

murp

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 20:39

Before the Iraq war (if you can call it that) there was a meeting in London to divide the oil fields between the major players, and they said make sure the oil installations are bombed, set of fire, ect! cause the we can get the tax payer to pay for the new ones.
Remember the news saying the Iraqs had set them on fire!
Murp

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 20:39

Isis Ra is pronounced ishra.

murp.

{Ed033's Note - Allegedly, Israel = IS RA EL = ISIS, RA, EL

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 21:57

Thanks ed, think that was it.

Murp

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 21:57

I posted at the end of last week that this is the main event, I still believe that is true, there seems to be a critical mass coming, every person I come into contact seems to becoming awake, now a few years ago I had to be careful with my chat but now! its like something good is going on, even knowing the USA thinks it controls us they are out of control now.
Murp

{Ed033's Note - I'll believe it when I see it. I still think it's actually only a fraction of 1% that is really awake, and what your seeing is an unexplainable as yet 'sophistication upgrade' that everyone has gone through to different degrees over the last 5 years or so.

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03 Sep 2013 12:30Discussion #10377Talk Sense

03 Sep 2013 13:18:33
it would seem logical and feasable that alien life does exist. if every star is like our sun and each has planets around it blah blah blah. but alien abductions? really? so a species has the technology to actually get here in the first place then gets here having either travelled at vast speeds across space or bent space and time then decides its a good idea to land his big shiny craft with lights flashing everywhere illuminating the night sky to borrow a human being to then 'PROBE" it? lol really? if the technology is available to get them here then logically they would be advanced enough to either live amoung us or be hidden out of our way. its conceivable that people may have seen craft, ufos, whatever you will but if aliens wanted to observe or learn about humans wouldn't there be more discreet ways? I can't believe they would want us to know they were here as if they did why wouldn't they appear in their thousands?

frankyscouser03 Sep 2013 13:49

I can not speak for aliens why or what is the reason so I will throw back a question at you, we class ourselves as intelligent (debatable I know) compared to other species on earth, so my question to is why do we study every animal /insect on earth?

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 14:16

Whilst I believe in Aliens, but not their visitations, I have to say that franky made a great point.

Curiosity is seen in all life forms and I daresay any other beings probably harbour the same desires for knowledge of the unknown that we do.

Exotiva

{Ed001's Note - in my experience, the more intelligent you are, the more curious you are. So highly intelligent aliens are likely to be extremely curious.}

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 17:54

Maybe they abduct us so they can make cures for our viruses and diseases that they might get if they decide to invade?

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 17:54

There is little doubt that any visitors to this planet are more scientifically advanced than we are. The only reason to study our physicality is to find better ways of killing / controlling us. If they are studying us for peaceful reasons they would reveal themselves, as kidnapping is an act of aggression (unless they have been told to stay hidden by dark forces from this planet). Being a peaceful chap it wouldn't bother me if they needed voluteers to examine ( unless it was a anal probe, I don't do butt stuff! lol) as this would bring the races closer together for our mutual benefit.
Ultimately I feel the alien invasion stuff is exaggerated in the media to keep open minded people in their place ( climate of fear ). I just don't find the secrecy aspect makes any kind of sense!
Liono74

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frankyscouser03 Sep 2013 19:48

Lino I do not think it is that simple, like I have posted many times I think there are many species of aliens and like us there are good and bad, to be honest if abductions are real which I do believe it is for a reason, as we as a species we are aggressive and skeptical so I doubt there would be many volunteers, personally if I was a alien and I got dropped off here I would be terrified.

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03 Sep 2013 10:25Discussion #10376Talk Sense

03 Sep 2013 10:37:52
just one other thought. why do some people find it so hard to believe that a government would assasinate its own president or that the idea there may be other lifeforms that exist in this massive universe or that one country may purposely allow an event to happen to start a war yet they may well believe in a god that they have never seen or that if it does exist in any form and is so good and great allows mankind to be so evil and destructive at times? just find it all a bit odd so many people dismiss conspiriacies so easily. RedLeigh75

Not Registered03 Sep 2013 12:15

1) Never bothered to read history
2) Lack of imagination. Selfishness
3) Never bothered to read history
4) Lack of understanding as to what free will is
You are kind of jumping from subject to subject there and without using any punctuation marks, you are probably going to confuse people rather than engage them in constructive discussion.
Zari

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frankyscouser03 Sep 2013 12:15

Very true red.

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 12:34

I apologise for my rambling on i'm on my soap box today. my post is just a generalisation. my frustration at how some things are glaringly obvious yet people brush them off yet some people will willingly believe in a god they have never seen. I have a friend who doesn't understand nor care for politics. if you mention politics, wars or conspiriacies she brushes it off as nonesense etc etc. yet when the news comes on with images of kids hurt by chemical weapons shes like well that shouldn't happen we should do something.

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03 Sep 2013 09:33Discussion #10375Talk Sense

03 Sep 2013 10:28:04
i don't wish to sound like a doomsday merchant but history shows that every now and again the reset button has to be pressed either to eradicate one species to introduce a new one or simply to control a species that is expanding out of control. its quite probable that more advanced species have existed prior to our own and have been reset by cataclysmic events and such events as wars do in effect reduce population figures. the fact is the earth has finite resources. food, water and oil are necessary either to live in one way or another. I understand the ethic of some tree hugger claiming "no blood for oil" but no oil = no economy whichever way you dress it up.

the western world is often referred to as the civilised world but were only a fuel strike or three square meals away from becoming very uncivilised. in the movie the matrix humans are referred to as a cancer. in effect we are consuming all the earths resources yet we are still unable to expand and grow beyond our own earth. perhaps human kind needs to be reset, populations expanding number controlled before we literally do bleed the earth dry.

I suppose at least then there will be no more resources left to fight over. grim thought but maybe there are other beings or a new world order that may seem to remotely control us all but maybe they are just protecting the earth from being turned into a barren lifeless rock by US. politics, religion, borders and beliefs are all propaganda weapons and nothing happens for no reason. WW3 is a very distinct possibility and if it does then prepare to be either reset or removed.
RedLeigh75

{Ed033's Note - The controllers would probably think that their brainwashing and mind control programs have worked on you a treat.

Not Registered03 Sep 2013 12:15

According to ancient scriptures, the Vedas in particular, cataclysmic events have occurred in the past and thus in all probability, will occur again. However, calling your own species a cancer sounds more like you are trying to distance yourself from what you perceive and do not agree with, rather than attempting to understand it.
Economics, politics etc. are simply artificial tools that we created in an attempt to better manage our lives. Some of those tools are not only dysfunctional, but purposefully dysfunctional. They create illusions as to what is truly necessary to live which manages to confuse people as designed.
We have the know-how to create a world were every single person on this planet can live their lives in abundance without having any negative impact on the environment. The only thing that prevents us from achieving that is ourselves. Once we are mature enough as a species to live with such pure aims in heart and mind we are certain to succeed.
Additionally, if you believe the powers at be have the ecosystems best interests at hand your behavior has indeed been modified.
Zari

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 12:15

I suppose having read my post back that you say I am brainwashed ed but I consider myself to be open minded. I tend to agree with most conspiriacy theories, I find many of them intriguing. fact is the power lies with the people. the governments simply use the news to manipulate the masses to control them. yet the masses for the most part stay controlled. we can talk on sites like this but can we actually change anything. as obi wan. once said "who is the bigger fool? the fool or the fool who follows him?"
you can never win. if you turn a blind eye to syria it won't just go away and if you get involved your a war monger, an aggressor. its all about power, super powers always exist. probably the biggest one was the british empire. I've read that the usa had even considered invading britian pre world war 2 because of this. kids of the 80's grew up watching two huge super powers put the world on a knifes edge yet both were born in the shadow of the british empire.
man is supposed to be intelligent yet the one man most considered the most intelligent, albert einstien (personally i'd say tesla was smarter), split the atom which in turn has lead to us intelligent people to build atomic and nuclear weapons which ironically could end the human race.
RedLeigh75

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frankyscouser03 Sep 2013 12:15

Red disagree with you on this, if we are constantly getting told by the media who are used as a propaganda tool that there will be a shortage of fuel in say 70 years time and we need to start fracking for our own benefit then people who believe in that might as well jump of the mountain with the other lemmings, free energy exists, even if today they suddenly admitted they have just discovered free energy they would still put a tax on it, I read or heard something that in california people who have the big solar power on farms and houses are getting taxed, yes taxing them for the sun, as for food they are manipulating seeds to keep prices higher, I think if we all effed off the tescos/asda chains and grow our own veg etc it would be a small token but still in the right direction.

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 13:49

I have been reading this page for ages and have read many of your posts franky and ill be honest most all you have to say I agree with. I agree with what you say in principle and if we all changed a little the overall effect would be huge. like I said people have the power. but in reality its rare for the masses to stand up against anything and when it comes to fuel or food the second people think they won't have enough the panic and snap it all up. in return for a relativley comfortable convenient life u become a pawn in a huge chess game.

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frankyscouser03 Sep 2013 17:54

I agree with you its our mindset, people believe what is being told over a tv or a radio, I have stopped watching tv apart from the footy and certain shows that I like but on the whole I very rarely watch what I used to watch when I was younger, now why is there not a push from the government to for instance grow veg/fruit etc from a health/money?because it does not make them money, if a quarter of the uk actually made a effort to grow there own greens you would see a massive change, prices would come down and it would set off a chain reaction, something so small could make us powerful, imagine another hypothetical question, what if a quarter of the uk got rid of there cars and rode to work?the government claim they would less cars on the road but in reality it would cripple them less oil less tax /speed cameras etc, my rant is we are not as vulnerable as they try to make out, two changes not massive could make us stronger and them weaker.

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02 Sep 2013 20:44Discussion #9019Talk Sense

02 Sep 2013 21:42:20
I have just had a message from Tom slemman on twitter appealing for any remote viewers which I found strange and interesting so I asked him what was the appeal for? He replied "the Kennedy assassination" I thought you could only remote view the present?

{Ed033's Note - Apparently time is not involved, you can remote the present, past and future but whichever it is, it doesn't mean you're going to be accurate.

frankyscouser02 Sep 2013 22:22

Yeah edd he just tweeted that to me, it is a mass experiment and any findings will be put on twitter and he's website.

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 08:27

How does it work? sounds a bit far fetched if i'm honest.

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 11:01

A remote viewer is a term used to refer to a person who can retrieve information on any target from any distance.
A good way to understand this is to think of radios and radio signals. If everything around us is energy that vibrates with specific frequencies that would mean that when one is tuned to a particular frequency they receive only signals of that frequency. That does not mean that other frequencies are void of signals, simply that there is no way perceive them.
Pertaining to the body, different parts of our bodies resonate in different frequencies. If we seek to experience reality through parts that are tuned to higher frequencies then what we experience is different to what we would experience, were we focusing on lower frequency parts. As one achieves higher states of consciousness their attention shifts to those higher frequencies where due to the virtually infinite potential everything is possible.
Further on, the best remote viewers are actually astral travelers. They tune in with their soul, pure essence, higher self, hyper-consciousness, energy body, light body, astral body. what have you, which is hyper-dimensional. Thus being no longer confined by lower vibrational physical laws i. e. what we perceive as space-time continuum, they can gain access to other realms.
Zari

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frankyscouser03 Sep 2013 12:15

This is the original message of tom slemmen" I'm planning a mass remote viewing experiment in late November and will need your help of course. Spread the word if you can"

not sure if he has any connections but the appeal is out, will be interesting to see what happens.

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Not Registered03 Sep 2013 17:54

03 Sep 2013 15:48:18
Einstein's reward for stealing patents was to be sat down and shown the theory of relativity. pea

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02 Sep 2013 13:43Discussion #10374Talk Sense

02 Sep 2013 14:36:36
relating to a post further down, there's coordinates that show some kind of base in Antarctic, just wondering if people have taken a look and what your thoughts are.

Not Registered02 Sep 2013 14:13

Definitely a hole there. whether it's a cave or bunker though is debatable.

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frankyscouser02 Sep 2013 14:42

Could be anything melting snow revealing a cave, now if there has been any sightings from those coordinates then that will be exciting.

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Not Registered02 Sep 2013 17:09

To the right of the hole there's something that looks like a metal hatch like on a submarine but without the wheel in the middle.

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Not Registered02 Sep 2013 18:06

Posted a while back about Nazi's acquiring a map by Piri Reis that showed the Antarctic free of snow and ice and showed where the land was! As we know the Antarctic has been this way for thousands of years! Any ways Hittler and his obsession with holy artefacts came across this map! The story goes that the Third Reich designed and constructed nazi HQ! During world war ships and planes all spotted UFO's. I believe the base exists!

RR!

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02 Sep 2013 09:41Discussion #1957Talk Sense

02 Sep 2013 10:35:18
Zbigniew Brzezinski saying war is becoming inefficient because of people being more politically aware.

http://www.hangthebankers.com/brzezinski-admits-alternative-media-stalling-war-with-syria/

Maybe sites like these are working, keep up the good work Ed.

MrTrotskysGhost

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01 Sep 2013 16:37Discussion #10373Talk Sense

01 Sep 2013 17:03:46
Seems to be a few movies coming out where the white house is being attacked. maybe they are making us used to the idea?

Not Registered01 Sep 2013 18:40

I thought that yesterday, I watched Olympus has fallen last week, good film but as always, predictable

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Not Registered02 Sep 2013 08:16

Is white house down any good

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Not Registered02 Sep 2013 18:06

What's also strange is that for years the baddies were all ways Russian or Ukranian or some where Soviet! And all of a sudden every film is North Korea, South Korea! Making everyone aware of the threat and also showing that America wins everytime! Even wars they lose they win! Look at Vietnam America got its ass kicked! John Rambo sorted it out in a weekend for gods sake they even made a film about an American coming up with the enigma code!

RR!

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01 Sep 2013 08:48Discussion #10372Talk Sense

01 Sep 2013 01:43:02
googled the disney deception about 3 hours ago and to be honest I still can't believe it!

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01 Sep 2013 01:15Discussion #9018Talk Sense

01 Sep 2013 01:41:55
i think this is right obama in his press conference said something on the lines of he will let congress vote on bombing syria, he calls it urgent and innocent people are dying but will not call them back early which I find baffling, anyway the elite who run the planet and are supposedly into symbols and dates, well this could be a pure coincidence but syria's fate could be decided on 911, that is when congress vote, right guys off with mates tomorrow to the pub and watch the match so speak prob next week, have a good weekend adios.

Not Registered01 Sep 2013 11:30

01 Sep 2013 12:11:29
I think he wants to use the symbolism of the date to manipulate the vote. Also by delaying it he's using the extra time to try and gain international support. Maybe even trying to lean on Cameron to go back to the house. I think it would take a smoking gun of epic proportions for the house to change its vote. Mort

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30 Aug 2013 16:11Discussion #10371Talk Sense

30 Aug 2013 17:10:25
If all the talk of WW3/NWO is true - nukes are going to start flying, the majority of the population wiped out, we're going to be sent back to dark ages etc. My question is this, what (if anything) can we do? Or Are we literally destined to just fall in line with the NWO/Agenda21 teachings?

Not Registered30 Aug 2013 21:42

Yeah, nowt we can do mate. We are litterally powerless. The NWO and powers that be have us by the balls. We have to just sit here and watch the show.

Just watched a clip about WW3. Thing is, this stuff has been on the internet for years, predicting and telling us what is going to happen, how it will build up etc. And everything I've watched over the years seem to be coming together NOW! Everythging is falling into place and we are watching it helplessly.

Good Luck to everyone and their families, I 100% beleive s*** will kick off soon. very soon

Geordie Al

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Not Registered30 Aug 2013 23:29

Well, that's a cheery reply Al:) thanks all the same though. I've seen a few YouTube clips but I'm only really just scratching the surface. I'm not sure what to believe, on one hand I can see all the NWO videos/evidence but on the other hand, I've heard a million stories of what the futures going to be like - all with so called evidence.
I don't want to offend anyone but I'm just learning about this so I'm trying to keep an open mind.

Angrychef - I posted the original but forgot to sign my name again.

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Not Registered30 Aug 2013 23:29

It won't be nukes Al it'll be chemical. More localised, and easier to play the blame game. And with OBL/Gaddafi/Saddam gone, the media need to create a new villain.

Ryan.

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Not Registered31 Aug 2013 19:49

I don't believe they will use nukes at all, nobody wins if they do! though this doesn't mean our future isn't bleak cause it is. Now Russia, think about it they need to create different sides (one person can't pless chess alone), Russia is all in on it.
Have a look at the pnac papers, Project for the New American Century, and please don't look at the online 'encyclopaedia' beginning with 'W', the site is not trustworthy.

Murp

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Not Registered01 Sep 2013 21:49

I don't think it will come to nuclear war either, but I think it will be hyped up in the press as just that.

Much like the Colld War, the military-industrial complex can generate loads of fear which in turn will lead to even more arms being bought.

More fear = more (very expensive) weapons, which in turn = lots of $$$ for those powerful companies.

The banks will also be readily funding these purchases as well because whilst it's costly to those fighting the wars, it's incredibly profitable to those funding them.

I think we'll have a repeat of the Cold War. No actual fighting will take place but the mere threat of nuclear warfare will force countries to buy lots of arms.

ConspiracyKen

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