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Discussion #10059Talk Sense

16 Mar 2013 19:20:53
{Ed033's Note - checkpoint refusals in America

 

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17 Mar 2013 04:46:01
that is class, how long until something similar happens in good old blighty?
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Although I don't agree with the laws and "police state" style it is a bit harsh on the people just doing there job.

{Ed033's Note - That's what most of the Nazis said at the Nuremberg Trials. Apparently these Nazis reckoned they were only doing their job.
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But these people aren't killing people.

{Ed033's Note - How many people each year do the police, unlawfully beat up, kidnap, injure, kill? What planet are you on?
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17 Mar 2013 16:43:43
with the nazi's some people really enjoyed doing their job and others didn't but knew the consequences if they didn't. The problem is they all tried to claim the second, how do you sort out who lied and who didn't. Who did really enjoy it. Its an academic exercise anyway since they were all guilty anyway. It might be checkpoints today but where does it stop. What happens to those with the incorrect papers. what's the next step special camps for re education. You see where i'm going.
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When an illegal immigrant runs over and kills your nearest and dearest in an unlicensed and uninsured car, don't moan about the authorities letting it happen. Policing in 'Blighty' is by consent. This country is far from a Police State. Just piss the Police off anywhere in Europe and see how they interact with you.

{Ed033's Note - The de facto authorities have already let millions of illegal immigrants in on purpose. Having a license and/or insurance won't bring back anyone from the dead or prevent anyone form being run over.

In Europe they use the Roman Civil Law, as opposed to the the Common Law in 'Blighty', most "Commonwealth" countries and America.
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Discussion #1913Talk Sense

16 Mar 2013 15:18:08
Check this out. From a site in Greece my girlfriend found either eerie or fake not sure.

http://www.awakengr.com/2013/03/blog-post_4237.html

 

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Discussion #8941Talk Sense

16 Mar 2013 00:19:22
just seen on tv a case I did not was connected a guy who bought a ranch in texas removed metal from a well and got a very bad case of arthritis and other people who cam in contact with the well also got sick, what I did not know was supposedly a ufo crashed there in 1897 and a body was buried, the guy who owned the ranch at the time supposedly threw the metals of the craft down a very deep well, what I found interesting more so about the subject is the name of the place were the craft crashed, Aurora, it might be me but the Aurora hypersonic secret spy plane looks like something from a different world, coincidence who knows?.

 

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16 Mar 2013 12:25:29
the aurora project? Could be linked.
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Who knows but it makes sense.
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Discussion #10058Talk Sense

16 Mar 2013 00:01:32
Not a conspiracy as such more what they don't want us to know. After the MP's expenses scandal we were told this was unacceptable, would stop etc. People must stop watching mind numbing celebrity dross or we truly are doomed. I would love your thoughts on these expense claims;
Cameron; £119, 149 up by 12%
Clegg ; £148, 583 up by 34%
Osbourne; £111, 735 up by 20%
Alexander;£149, 176 up by 16%
So much for all being in it together. This stuff must be splashed all over the news. They made much of the fact they were not taking any rises in salary, it seems they don't have to. Over £500,000 in expense claims from FOUR MP's. What are expenses? A personal free bank for these people. This is for 2012 so same next year I expect. Wake up people. we are being taken for a ride. GJ

 

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17 Mar 2013 16:50:10
They are shocking figures but I note you only have conservative and liberals, any figures for labour? Just in the name of balance of course. Something to compare against. {Ed001's Note - is there a difference these days? We only have Torys, or Torys pretending to be Labour, or, for a bit of balance, Liberals who give power to the Torys......}
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Sorry I was e-mailed the numbers by a friend. As ED says there will be no, or little difference between them. All parasites. GJ
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17 Mar 2013 21:35:05
i know there's no difference these days but would be interesting to get miliband and balls figures just to see how they compare. It does make you wonder what the point is these days they're all the same.
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Discussion #10057Talk Sense

15 Mar 2013 20:27:07
Just watched a report on the three Muslims who have been radicalised and face long sentences. Now I grew up in a multi cultural area of Glasgow, this was the early sixties so there were racists and bigots around, but on the whole there were no problems to speak of. This leads me to my main point. Why has this radicalising situation been allowed to gain a foothold?

In the news article Anjem Choudry, he of many hard line Muslim groups, was interviewed. Having Muslim friends I have always been aware of this fool. I have seen various clips of his hate fuelled rants over the British/American stance in Afghanistan and other Muslim countries. I always disagreed with these "conflicts" and believe people have the right to demonstrate if they feel strongly over the situation.

Choudrys took this to unacceptable levels at Wooton Basset. The antics of himself and small rabble of supporters was a disgrace. Firstly, This man claims to be a "Muslim Cleric". How did he go about achieving this title? Secondly, as far as I am aware he is a trained Lawyer. If so, why on earth is he being allowed to live on over £25,000 per year in benefits? Cameron. Clegg and their dopey sidekick Osbourne rattle on about austerity. They are dragging people with disabilities through the indignity of Atos healthcare interviews to assess their situation regarding benefit claims. Has Mr Choudry ever been invited to attend one of these? He is claiming a sickness allowance I believe. Would his illness prevent him practising law?

It is my belief that Choudry is kept around unchecked for one reason. He is the Muslim bogey man. The guy who keeps the hatred alive. The common enemy for every sane person to despise. In other words he is a shill. In the last few years he has flew to the USA a couple of times. How would he get in without friends in high places? As I stated before I have Muslim friends and neighbours. They are without doubt some of the nicest, most decent people you would ever wish to meet. Don't be fooled by this joke figure. Don't be fooled by this or any Government. They work to a different agenda to decent people. GJ.

 

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Totally agree mate, radical, extremist muslims is another monster created by the cia in the 60s and 70s
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Discussion #8940Talk Sense

15 Mar 2013 19:44:41
quite surprised to see david icke on prime time tv here in the uk, was not surprised to see phillip schofeild with he's little digs about ickes beliefs, the 5 minutes or so airtime they gave him more or less made him look like a nutjob, I believe in quite a lot of stuff speaks about, not all but would like to see icke get more airtime without getting stitched up.

 

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Not going to bother icke 1 bit, for him it's more exposure to a different kind of audience and a good way for him to make £.

GBI
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Like I have always said about icke if I was all about the £ sign he would have stayed in a very secure and prestigious job with the tv all those years ago, also about the interview it was not live it was prerecorded so I wonder what bits they editor-ed out?.
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Id imagine he gets a lot more dosh from what he does now than what he would from his previous job.

Its plain to see that this dude loves the attention he gains from this job.

By talking about what he does and having a better understanding of it than the people who listen and take as gospel it gives the man the feeling of being important. God complex at its worst.

Not saying he is not right on a lot of things but by heck he is rather self loving and blatentley in this for the ££££. To be fair though good luck to him because he does do his job well and is very hard working.

red walter

{Ed033's Note - David Icke lives in a small flat and spends his time researching/writing. We've got a big problem of too many people who are "Asleep". Lots of people are being paid to aid the negative agenda to keep people "Asleep". David Icke has "woken" lots of people up so I don't care how much money he makes.

David Icke gives a tour around his small flat

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ED great site by the way. I was not making out David was a billionaire or something. I would hazard a guess that Mr Icke has more money combined than yourself and the regular readers combined.
Personally I think he has earned it as he has worked for it and done very well to do so.
However I stick to my point that he does have a bit of the god complex. I have seen many of his vids and each one he comes over as if he is god

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{Ed033's Note - I've never met god so I don't know whether David Icke speaks like god or not. I think David is just telling it like he sees it. What David says makes sense to me.
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Like icke said money he earns does not go on personal possessions, it ploughs bk in to making more books and hiring arenas.
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Discussion #8939Talk Sense

15 Mar 2013 19:38:40
i seen that interview with a farther of one of the deceived kids, before the camera rolls he is laughing and joking with a cop or someone as soon as they broadcast he's face changes and he wells up, very very weird.

 

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What was the interview
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Arther of one of the kids that died in sandy hook its on youtube.
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See that video your talkin about franky were the dad is laughin and jokin before they roll the cameras is that the same video they show you from a helicopter view them chasing a man through the woods?
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Not sure mate, the father is robbie parker and for the life of me if what happened to my kids that happened to his, I don't know how you could have a jock and a smile then 2 seconds later suddenly well up baffles me, even if this was a year after the shooting I would find it strange but this is not even a week after the massacre.

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Discussion #10056Talk Sense

15 Mar 2013 02:15:37
Ed007, I know this should be on the conspiracy site, however since you mentioned David icke on here. I am a huge conspiracy theorist and at the moment I am looking into Sandy Hook. Any info at all? Opinion? I am convinced it was staged. Any reply would be greatly appreciated.

{Ed007's Note - I'm no expert on the subject but I know of the supposed link to the Batman films (Sandy Hook is the only name visible on a map, the Batman premier shootings etc) There is also the links with the Libor hearings, the fathers of both the shooters at the Batman premier shooting and the Sandy Hook shootings were to be witnesses at the hearings into the Libor Rates scandal, and look into the fact that the fundraising/charity fund was registered 3 days before the incident took place. I hope that helps mate.
You should visit the conspiracy site we run Davie, you don't need to be an expert, all the guys on that are more than happy to help, whatever your interest level is. }

GUYS, YOUR THOUGHTS PLEASE. I know about the BATMAN THING ETC. I have done it to death. Does anyone have any new theories/ news/ gossip/ etc. THIS STINKS!

{Ed033's Note - More about Sandy Hook
1. There is allegedly satellite imagery showing that there were 3 perpetrators that entered the school.

2. 2 people were caught running away from the school after the shooting by police but they were let go. Those 2 were allegedly israeli citizens.

3. Video interview with Dr. Nick Kollerstrom on his lay research into Sandy Hook by Richard D. Hall
http://richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=138&part=1
http://richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=138&part=2
http://richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=138&part=3

 

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There is also a video on youtube showing someone who is supposedly one of the victims fathers who people believe was acting when he gave his statement to the police i'm sure youd get it if you type sandy hook actors into youtube, quite interesting.

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Discussion #10055Talk Sense

13 Mar 2013 23:38:49
so what's the conspiracies about the new pope then

{Ed033's Note - According to St. Malachy's "Pope List" which they have been selecting Popes from, this new Pope could be Petrus Romanus (the last pope on the list) who is associated in prophesy with the arrival of the Antichrist and the destruction of Rome

 

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But did it not say the last pope would be called peter

{Ed033's Note - it's their ritual prophesy so they can decide what's what. It would be too obvious if they did choose someone called Peter, it appears that it's more important to them to have the pope have multiple "hidden from plain site" attributes that adhere to the prophesy
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14 Mar 2013 18:15:39
Based on what i've seen and heard so far, and what people have said, he reminds me of JP1. Mort
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Ed 33 and others about the last pope the head of the Jesuit Order is commonly known as the Black Pope, so it could still be the last pope or the apocalypse

{Ed033's Note - This new white Pope is also a Jesuit allegedly
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Aren't most of the top Vatican hierachy all Jesuits?

{Ed033's Note - I was just saying about the white pope. I don't know but I read that this maybe the first Jesuit Pope ever
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Ed I was listening to coast to coast am today and one of the people on there said that the new popes name does have pete in there.

coast to coast am, geoengineering, it's near the beginning.

{Ed033's Note - Over the next few months we'll know more as researchers find stuff out
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Discussion #10054Talk Sense

13 Mar 2013 21:02:10
Who was the 6th man?

{Ed033's Note - I don't know what this question means but, if you're asking, who was allegedly the 6th Apollo astronaut on Moon, then it was Edgar Mitchell. Allegedly because Edgar Mitchell couldn't remember being on the Moon, he went to a regression Dr. twice to access the memories of him on the moon but both times, no memories of him being on the moon were found.

 

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Kadeem Hardison (The 6th Man movie)
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14 Mar 2013 18:08:23
I thought that he was on about the Cambridge 5 that spied for the Soviets. You know Philby, Blunt and co. Allegedly there was a sixth who was discovered but never publicly identified as his i'd was so shocking. Also there was supposedly an Oxford 5 as well, but nothing ever been said about that. Ed i've never heard that about the guy on the moon that's quite weird. So he thinks he's been up there but has no memory of it. I guess it adds weight to the faked moon landing theory. Mort

{Ed033's Note - If you read Richard Hoagland's book Dark Mission, you can read more about astronauts not remembering. Apparently Buzz Aldrin feels disorientated and physically sick when he tries to remember about being on the Moon. Jay Weidner's dvd, Kubrick's Odyssey: Secrets Hidden in the Films of Stanley Kubrick Part 1 shows how Stanley Kubrick faked the astronauts on the moon videos.
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Discussion #10053Talk Sense

13 Mar 2013 21:45:11
Sorry, football subject, I've just witnessed some more shocking refereeing in the bayern-arsenal game just giving decision after decision in favour of the German team yet being lenient when they could the British team, does one of the football eds think there is an unwritten rule for British clubs and and a different set for everyone else within uefa/fifa. Some of the sendings off in different British teams by the Turkish ref to name one surprised me when listed in the press, alright a couple maybe justified but others bizarre.

Supasub {Ed001's Note - there always has been an agenda. The English FA have never helped though, I mean they are overbearing and arrogant in their dealings with the other FAs. For instance, remember how they forced UEFA to give England a 5th spot for Everton in the Champions League 2005/6 season? When it had happened in Spain, Spain just followed the spirit of the rules, while the English FA decided they were too important to follow them and wanted an extra spot.}

 

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Your probably right ed, I've always thought it generally since the 80's though. I think it's been made worse by the fact the FA tried to point to backhanders going on for the World Cup voting making us more insular.
I think Real Madrid will probably win the CL this year, purely as I think they are maybe paying more currently than anyone else. It s apolitical thing involving outdoing Barca, Spain v Catalonia.

Supasub {Ed001's Note - the FA only pointed them out because they were on the losing end, to be honest. It is not like they are a shining paragon of virtue or anything. It is all petty politics and the rest of the world's FAs dislike the fact that there are 4 distinct entities here, England, Scotland, N. Ireland and Wales, with more power than the rest of them. UEFA seem intent on putting the home nations in their place, and reducing their power over the game.}
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Regardless of refereeing, I know there is already the champions league but there are 4 or 5 english clubs who could join a new European league though ed which I think will happen in the next few years/decade. Clubs having full/more control over their tv deals. Mobile tv technology will come more into play. Uefa and the British fa's must be a little concerned, I think eufa and fifa try to keep the likes of barca, real madrid, bayern etc "happy" to make sure they find it hard to go elsewhere. I think it explains why some investors have got involved with PSG, city, etc. also.

Supasub {Ed001's Note - they have already changed the European competitions to appease those clubs, it is only a matter of time before it happens, unfortunately. Personally I can't stand European matches, I find them tedious and dull. I am dreading the thought of that being the league competition of choice.}
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Agree, thanks ed anyway.

Supasub {Ed001's Note - nice chatting with you again mate.}
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Come on ED001. European matches DULL? Did you forget Olympiakos, Juventus, Istanbul. beats 70% of the league/Fa cup games. {Ed001's Note - 3 games? Plus they weren't good games, they just had good spells. The football is mostly slow and defensive.}
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And chelsea.
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Discussion #10052Talk Sense

13 Mar 2013 20:15:35
A new Pope and a comet in the sky.

Hundreds of years ago it would have been the apocalypse.

well that's progress.

 

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