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05 Mar 2013 20:52Discussion #10033Talk Sense

05 Mar 2013 21:50:30
{Ed033's Note - For all those CFC fans who were too busy with the CL to look into what Black Project Craft are:

Project Camelot with Michael Schratt on Black Technology aircraft part 1 of 2

Not Registered05 Mar 2013 22:53

Haha thanks Ed, appreciate it mate. I'll give it a watch after work.

Melbourne CFC

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frankyscouser05 Mar 2013 22:53

Is it true edd that the kremlin approached roman abromovich and said instead of spending 1 billion pounds with chelsea to win the champions league he can spend a quarter of that on a time machine?

{Ed033's Note - I've never heard that before, frankyscouser

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frankyscouser06 Mar 2013 11:58

My inside wikileaks informed me edd

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05 Mar 2013 13:28Discussion #11479Talk Sense

05 Mar 2013 14:21:00
TITANIC - accident or sunk to ensure the Fed Reserve would go ahead.

{Ed033's Note - Why They Deliberately Sunk The Olympic as the Titanic

sdk05 Mar 2013 16:40

Hi ed, I read that the olympic was damaged in collision with the hawke and the insurers wouldn't pay out but also that the main opposers to the fed reserve were on the maiden journey of that ship. 2 birds one stone?

{Ed033's Note - Definitely 2 birds with one stone

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frankyscouser05 Mar 2013 16:40

Never heard that conspiracy before edd good video, jp morgan dodging last minute he's place on the titanic smells, I am open minded on this subject because corruption goes on and one thing that still goes on a banker (jpm)has a leader of a nation by the balls.

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Not Registered06 Mar 2013 09:50

I have heard many rumours about this. Some of the damage on the Titanic appears to indicate an explosion from inside, although there are arguments that this was due to pressure from water.

also, there is some issue about the sister ship and titanic, but I can't remember what it was, something to do with photographs of the two vessles together and the funnles and deck windows, they were basically identical bar the above two?

finally there was also something said about the company getting rid of all of the staff that had served on the sister ship before titanic set sail and a massive refurb to the sister ship which would go along the line of an insurance job, and a radical theory that the titianic hit another ship rather than an iceberg.

TA

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04 Mar 2013 12:54Discussion #8937Talk Sense

04 Mar 2013 13:46:08
i am a believer in ufos anyway but to people who are not I would say check out the Liverpool hearts game at anfeild and tell me what the object is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMtdLC5Wy_U

Not Registered04 Mar 2013 15:47

Intresting Franky, am thinking fighter jet poss? I do belive in ufos btw.

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frankyscouser04 Mar 2013 16:30

Never seen a fighter jet look like that mate plus that was scary fast.

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Not Registered05 Mar 2013 07:17

I personally don't believe in UFO's but that was strange Frankie. Bloody quick, too quick for a shooting star. Seems like a strange time for a fighter jet to be flying around, although as I've learnt from this site, we aren't exactly informed of everything going on in the world, so logic (my logic) says a fighter jet is the most likely.

Melbourne CFC

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Mr.Jones05 Mar 2013 09:36

Just proves that Liverpool are the most supported club in the universe ;)

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frankyscouser05 Mar 2013 10:06

Melbourne you seem a intelligent feller apart from the cfc lol, anyway what do you base all the sightings around the world for thousands of years on?. and true jonesy even the aliens have to pay homage to anfeild.

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03 Mar 2013 15:37Discussion #9922Talk Sense

03 Mar 2013 16:20:56
Ok watching The Da Vinci Code (ok ok I know) but i'm thinking two things. Firstly it does build a plausible case, certain things do require closer examination. Secondly what if its a bit of dis info. What if there are other things that their trying to hide so put out something that most people have already heard of anyway as a distraction? Thoughts?

{Ed033's Note - Interesting that Dan Brown based the Da Vinci code book on what he had read in books talking about the mysteries surrounding Rennes-le-Chateau such as The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail book, but there seems to be no mention at all of Rennes-le-Chateau in The Da Vinci Code movie

Mort03 Mar 2013 17:21

03 Mar 2013 17:02:38
That's true. i'd forgotten that. I've read most of Brown's source books at college years before he was even published. I also remember reading another book about the same time I read DVC. By Lynn Pinkett and Clive Prince where they were saying the real secret was to do with John the Baptist. I'll have to look it up after dinner.

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Not Registered04 Mar 2013 18:45

Mort u ate your dinner yet

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Not Registered05 Mar 2013 16:40

05 Mar 2013 15:06:27
Nope i'm wasting away. The mrs decorated and packed everything into the man cave so can't get into the man cave and only just got broadband back. Mort

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Not Registered06 Mar 2013 10:54

The theory was JTB was in fact Christ and not the other way round. that was their theory.

The whole holy blood Holy Grail book tells the story of the Cathers etc and some interesting things, but then it basically just say. THIS IS WHAT WE THINK IT MEANS and goes on to ramble about how they theorise Mary Magdalene was pregnant and Jesus was the childs father and she fled to France,. but they do not have any evidence or anything to back this up. Also, IMO France at the time was tribal and the almost feral people living there would be unlikely to accept and take in a foreigner to their shores, your go, this story becomes more like a story that they made up.

What would have been better for them was to go with the Cathers and knights templars rise to power which they do touch on.

They, the KT found something when they were digging in Jerusalem which gave them immense power, some say this was the cup of Christ, others believe it was the alchemy knowledge or something to do with the philosophers stone. no not harry potter the chemical process! anyhow a rag tag group of mercenaries in affect became a power house overnight with immense wealth and power.

Their power continued even after their apparent break up on Friday the 13th and all that, and the survivors fleeing to Scotland, England and most notably Switzerland which still bears their emblem on their national flag to this day and also became powerful basically overnight with banking etc.

But as I said, it would have been better if they had explored these theories in details.

TA {Ed001's Note - how was France almost feral back then? There is plentiful evidence of a very well organised trade network with the Middle East region. The people would be well used to dealing with those foreigners, and would be extremely likely to have a proportion of them living around them. Makes no sense to say they would be unlikely to accept them, most of those attitudes you are referring to were later inventions. Brought in by medieval kings needing to get people to fight their wars for them, what better way than patriotism and making others out to be less worthy? You are talking about a time when peoples, such as the Romans, were moving around, tribes would migrate, mingle and become other tribes altogether.}

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Not Registered06 Mar 2013 13:34

Maybe feral was a bit harsh, but my point was that the Gauls who had not been displaced by Romans or who were not settled under Roman rule would be unlikely to accept a pregnant foreigner and their contingent in their fold.

Was it also the same book that said the offspring of Mary became the Merovingians or was that in another book? I can't remember. Anyhow, as I said the interesting parts form the Holy Blood book was the part about the Cathars and the Bezieres â€“ spelling. massacre and why so many chose to die rather than go free?

I know religious doctrine of the time was Christian and the whole of Christendom, but why turn your back on your faith to die as a heretic?

TA {Ed001's Note - the Gauls were a very mixed group of people, why would they not accept a pregnant foreigner when they were all foreigners driven out of other lands by the Romans? I really don't think you have a good grasp on the history of that time, if you feel that. You seem to be talking about a group of people using modern beliefs, with no idea of how the belief system has been changed since then.}

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03 Mar 2013 14:54Discussion #10032Talk Sense

03 Mar 2013 15:54:09
Did anyone see the programme about Mermaids awhile back and how they found a body washed up on a beach and how goverment officals covered it up. Your thoughts?

Not Registered03 Mar 2013 15:03

It was a mockumentary.

JK92

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LP04 Mar 2013 18:26

So I wasn't the only one who fell for that!

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02 Mar 2013 09:59Discussion #8936Talk Sense

02 Mar 2013 10:57:35
been on twitter and sent a message to ImmortalTech to say I liked he's interview on alex jones and because I liked the interview I checked out he's free album download, I got a reply of him saying "Thank you brother just spread the word!, I replied and gave a shout-out to this site and link, so you never know, cool guy thou.

Boozy8203 Mar 2013 17:53

And he speaks well too ;)

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02 Mar 2013 09:14Discussion #10031Talk Sense

01 Mar 2013 23:42:09
any info on the mothman or anything similar
cheers
Rohan

frankyscouser02 Mar 2013 09:47

I think its a urban legend mate.

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04 Mar 2013 16:19:15
You really should try "The Mothman Prophecies" by John Keel, it is an interesting book which the film is loosely based on. pea

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01 Mar 2013 08:55Discussion #2078Talk Sense

01 Mar 2013 08:52:37
What do people think of the suicidal munchin scene in the Wizard of Oz? Real?

frankyscouser01 Mar 2013 10:17

I think its a fake mate.

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Not Registered01 Mar 2013 11:54

It's a bird.

{Ed033's Note - Yes it is a bird

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Adam03 Mar 2013 11:07

The DVD version certainly looked like a bird, but the older VHS version certainly did not.

Perhaps it's a fake.

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Heskeyfenwa03 Mar 2013 19:06

I have read a lot on this apparently there was in another scene not the one where they are singing but when in Munchkinland you can see it. In the 1980 VHS you can see it but in later VHS and DVD releases it was changed to a bird then apparently on the Disney Channel changed to a shrub. Very interesting stuff, personally I think it was a hanging

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Not Registered04 Mar 2013 01:16

^^^^^
Yeah, what I saw in the VHS did not look like a bird to me at all. It totally creeped me out to be honest. The fact that they turned around and walked in its direction without seeing it is just bizarre, especially since they appeared to look at it twice. So maybe it was a fake?

Adam

{Ed033's Note - Or, it was a bird and always was a bird.

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28 Feb 2013 23:21Discussion #10030Talk Sense

01 Mar 2013 00:09:36
Hello everyone,,, Has anyone heard of the web site TOR?. You can basically buy drugs and weaponary off it

Irish Red Jr

frankyscouser28 Feb 2013 23:49

Would not surprise me if it was set up by governments to see who is in the market for buying those products.

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Not Registered01 Mar 2013 00:04

The website isn't called TOR. TOR is the operating program the website uses in order to block the tracing of IP addresses. Without TOR you can not access the website, and in turn, their customer database.

The main website used is Silk Road. It gives drug users the ability to search out certain products from certain regions eg. MD from Cambodia, Coke from Peru, meth from Utah America etc.

I personally don't use it, nor have I ever but I know people that have. Packages will be sent in the post and the operators of Silk Road hold any payments until the product is received. This stops the drug dealers from making false promises. So far the police have been unable to track the founders, due to the none use of IP addresses. Some people have been caught trying to receive the drugs, but only by Police who have monitored certain postal addresses.

Although legally its the wrong thing to
do, it's a rather ingenius way of doing it.

Melbourne CFC

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Khakipillowslip01 Mar 2013 08:55

Tor is more the project isn't it? (It's also my son's name) There's a browser you can download too, it acts almost like a VPN connection to the 'net to mask your IP, Melbourne is correct on that score, good stuff.
There are also suggestions that you can access the underlying parts of the web with it, unearthing documents and files that could be quite controversial and eye-opening. I'm tempted to give it a try, but I know I'll ultimately be disappointed with the outcome vs the expectation. :)

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frankyscouser01 Mar 2013 10:17

Mate like the saying "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is" meaning even if they deliver whatever goods your order, the people who send it could be anyone governments/fbi anything and even if they are on the level I can see government agencies monitoring or even hacking and putting a lot of dis-info files out there. a famous x files quote springs to mind, "trust no one".

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Not Registered01 Mar 2013 14:00

Id stay away from that programme! You can access the 'true web' through it but what you uncover is just criminals and peadofiles! like Franky said also you don't know who or what your talking to on there! My advice stay well clear from anything they say can't be traced because 99% of the time you can be they just say you can't to lure people in! and if you believe a VPN would stop you being tracked your wrong! you have to remember the Internet was the militarys long before it became public!

RR!

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28 Feb 2013 20:31Discussion #10029Talk Sense

28 Feb 2013 21:14:03
What are people's view on the group Vendetta. I find them quite interesting and I agree with their views that the internet should not be restricted and that the Westboro church should be considered a hate group. What do people think?

sparky

frankyscouser28 Feb 2013 22:56

The group have the right intentions but its the sign of the times they have to resort from hiding there identities with big brother watching. the freedom of the internet should mean that and sadly that includes ignorant people who write or chat obscenities being included in the freedom of speech as well.

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27 Feb 2013 20:39Discussion #1912Talk Sense

27 Feb 2013 21:33:31
What does anyone/Ed's make of this?
apparently this stuff referred to as "star jelly" or "astral jelly" can be found on earth after meteor showers. Scientists cannot confirm wether it is made up of plant, animal or neither DNA makeup.

http://m.thisisdevon.co.uk/story.html?aid=18199751

Don't know if its been covered recently but seems intriguing.

Supasub

Not Registered27 Feb 2013 21:35

Sorry cocked up the copy and paste of the link somehow but if you search "star jelly" or "Russian meteor shower astral jelly" it brings up related stories.

Supasub

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Not Registered28 Feb 2013 20:31

Its frogspawn been proven.

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Not Registered02 Mar 2013 09:29

Used to live in Scotland on a farm. There used to be a jelly like "fungus" growing on the fields. Never seen it before or after anywhere else. At 9 years old it was quite freaky lol. CheltBlue

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Not Registered03 Mar 2013 13:08

That's one of the stories from Creepshow your remembering.

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26 Feb 2013 22:17Discussion #8935Talk Sense

26 Feb 2013 23:13:26
it got me thinking after watching v for vendetta about how we get taught in schools about people that were perceived evil/terrorist like guy Fawkes, like edd said he could now be seen as a patriot, does that mean we have to question everyone in the history books and I don't mean your Hitlers/Stalin/ Vlad / Pol Pot, they had the power and control to not kill anyone if they chose and they were running there countries, I am talking about the so called mad men like guy Fawkes like pirates, bin laden etc maybe its a set agenda they are the bad guys, we are the good and killed them before they could do harm to everyone. who knows?

Boozy8226 Feb 2013 23:30

Guy Fawkes was the 1st and last person to ever walk into parliament with good intentions

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Not Registered27 Feb 2013 12:45

27 Feb 2013 12:57:43
What Fawkes did can be considered good. Pirates is open to interpretation. A lot of pirates were paid by governments to act as commerce raiders against other countries whereby little or no blame could be attached to the parent country. Basically war by proxy like the Cold War. Although a lot went free lance. Bin Laden well that's different. Whether he did it off his own bat or acting on behalf of others its still bad. Not sure the guy could ever be considered redeemable.

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LP27 Feb 2013 15:18

I don't think Fawkes was actually guilty, as he only admitted to the gunpowder plant after hours of intense torturing.

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LP27 Feb 2013 19:39

Sorry Gunpowder plot.

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Not Registered28 Feb 2013 13:44

The poster at 12.37 is actually talking about privateers not pirates. The distinction is perhaps a fine one, but it is there.
You will all know that Guy Fawkes was a relatively minor player in the 'gunpowder plot'

Puzzled

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