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Discussion #11416Talk Sense

23 Feb 2013 20:02:29
Any one clued up on Chem trails? My friend and I were discussing it and thought I would ask you guys what your opinions on them are?

 

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Chem trails not really my bag mate, I am going to try and find a link for those movies you recommended, ffs bad weekend reds out of europe and pricey knocked out.

{Ed033's Note - Chem-trails documentary - What in the World Are They Spraying?

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RR!
Thanks Ed033 that's an amazing documentray! I didn't realise the severity of what they were doing! And the fact that high powered individuals shun this off like its nothing is beyond me! The proof is there that they are poisoning us, manipulating the weather for their own gain! The one thing I don't understand is some of the governors shown in the documentray live in states where this is happening! Shouldn't they be concerned for their family's well being! Everyone needs to open their eyes to this or all natural resources of food and water will be gone forever and we will be left with chemically modified food and water which they can put what ever they like in and we would non the wiser! {Ed001's Note - aren't we pretty much there anyway?}
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24 Feb 2013 16:09:11
Indeed. One suspects horse meat is the tip of the iceberg.
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Discussion #8933Talk Sense

23 Feb 2013 12:57:02
hey edd any reason why edd02 responds to post on this site?its a bit like allowing Genghis khan to go to your country on holiday, carnage springs to mind. {Ed002's Note - I am simply following you Franky. The courts called it stalking but what do they know. If you look out of your window, you will see me in a floral shirt standing by that rather rusty Ford Escort waving at you.}

 

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I very much doubt that edd, well I can believe the paisley shirt but you in a rusty ford escort? never!i did notice notice a chauffeur driven Mercedes with some strange guy waving at me, then again I think it was a wave. {Ed002's Note - I was standing by it, it was not mine. I have never liked Mercedes.}
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23 Feb 2013 14:22:48
the more experts the better. Mort
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Touche edd and yes mort maybe edd02 will be the male mulder of the site.
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Haha frankie. I recommend going through the various clubs pages and looking for Ed002's replies. Very entertaining bloke. He certainly baited you with the paranoia remark. Ed001 is rather more like a wise wizard. If either reply on a post I find you'll generally learn something or laugh everytime

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Melbourne mate I know all about edd02 on the Liverpool rumors and really hate to say this but he knows he's stuff and edd01 definitely knows the liverpool page. eddo1=Dumbledore?
eddo2=Voldemort? {Ed002's Note - I have always seen myself as as Oblio and Ed001 as the itinerent harpoon sharpener that he is.}
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Discussion #1911Talk Sense

22 Feb 2013 21:24:40
Life is strange. Tonights Mentalist on channel 5 is about weed and genetically modified weed for corporations. Irony. Mort

 

I think they heard us.

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A bit of blaw back in the day is not the same thing as an ounce of chronic now, the kidz is going mental for dees sheet mon, remember that when they are crashing through your front door with claw hammers.

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The war on weed is over Mort :-)
They now fear Ayahuasca, a natural source that shows us we are more than the consumer world that they try to enforce on our conscience.
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Nobody ever crashed through any door with a claw hammer because of a bit of weed EVER. Begone foul demon you Unnamed Poster. Shame on you for even associating a bit of smoke with such violence you person.

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I understand the strains are getting stronger but that just means you stay stoned a lot longer and with more intensity! I've been to amsterdam I've smoked these so called super strains and I can tell you unnamed poster the last thing on my mind was hurting someone I think the only thing on my mind at the time was where can I get food from! Unnamed poster can I ask do you smoke cannabis? Have you tried cannabis?
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Discussion #1910Talk Sense

22 Feb 2013 15:49:30
What are people's thoughts on the drug war in Mexico and some of the horrific incidents that have resulted from it? Some of the stuff reported on news websites makes me wonder how people can inflict so much horror onto others.

I wonder why there is no foreign intervention to help the innoncent people who are caught in the middle.

Adam

 

Why would there be foreign intervention? the USA have sold millions of dollars worth of guns to mexico (yes the same government that are up in arms about gun laws in there own country) and do you really think they care about them killing each other?btw guns are illegal in mexico so work that out for yourself.

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Surely there has to be intervention (not necessarily from the US) because the Mexican government and police are doing absolute zip to improve a situation that has seen the formation vigilante groups who are accidently killing innocents as well as turning to corruption themselves. As well as this, you have gangs murdering each other, journalists and anybody who speaks out in truely horrific ways, sometimes with civilians caught in the middle.

Adam
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Adam unfortunately frankie is right! The Us supply the weapons. In regards to intervention unfortunately there's nothing in it for them. War or interventions normally have alteria motives like oil, drugs or other resourceful items. BP supply mexicos oil which is partly owned by Bill Gates who openly supports genocide! Now if Mexico had vests amount of oil, weapons or fields laced in Poppy's like Afghanistan then you would probably see intervention!

RR!
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Keep it quiet adam next thing we know there will be a nato/american occupation there.

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Don't get me wrong mate I admire the sentiment I truly do.

But you come across as a little naive.

The foreign powers won't intervene for 2 reasons:

1. Legally they cannot intervene unless the Mexican government specifically asks for help. Then it would end up in the UN debating rooms.

2. There's no profit in it. Mexico isn't going to pay for 1000's of foreign troops and expensive kit, and there's no massive resources there, or else the Yanks would have been in there years ago. Instead their making money off the problem.

As you say the Mexicans are doing nowt about it and the biggest issue is corruption.

I do see where you are coming from, and as I said I admire the sentiment. But once you commit to something like that where do you draw the line? Do you intervene in every country that has drug issues? Would intervention actually improve matters? Would the British people accept intervention in Mexico after Iraq/ Afghan?

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Discussion #1909Talk Sense

22 Feb 2013 15:40:25
this is the best description according to oscar pistorius on what happened that night, you can make your own mind up.

http://www.2oceansvibe.com/2013/02/22/the-best-illustrated-re-enactment-of-oscar-pistorius-affidavit-that-weve-seen-infographic/

frankyscouser

 

Very interesting frankie! I still don't see how he could take his gun from under his pillow without noticing his girl friend wasn't in bed! Surely if he heard a noise he would have checked to make sure she was safe before going to investigate! I honestly don't know what to believe with this one! Can't work out if he did it or didn't! But things don't add up!

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Mate only one person knows if it was deliberate, I said from the beginning I thought it was a accident that was just a educated guess mainly because of three points.
1 south africa being a violent country were there are plenty of armed robberies targeted at rich homes.
2 he's disability while being in bed.
either way hopefully the real truth will come out.
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It just seems like OJ Simpson all over again to me.
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I watched a program on him before the Olympics called the fastest man on two blades! Showing his life and the traumas he had to deal with growing up and how he over come them! I came away feeling inspired by him. My first reaction I'll be honest was not guilty but the more I read. I just don't know things simply don't add up!
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RR!
Also I know it was in south Africa but don't you think it's strange how the American government are trying to get guns banned and all of a sudden there are a number of high profile mass killings with guns! Might be a coincidence but strange non the less
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Discussion #1908Talk Sense

22 Feb 2013 08:14:02
I know we've discussed this before but the more I watch Hollywood films the more I realise that their are hidden truths behind the flashy lights, over paid actors and cameras. Indiana Jones and the last crusade is a prime example. Behind the script lies so much truth. Hitler was obsessed with mythical objects and belived who ever held these would rule the world. He had army's search the planet for the spear of destiny, the holy grail and many other religious artefacts. There are hundreds more films with historical truth behind them just wondered if anyone else has noticed this.

RR!

 

22 Feb 2013 10:06:13
Raiders of the Lost Ark is even truer, the Germans had teams in Tibet in contact with the then Dalai Lama. Quite a strange episode really. Trying to trace where their Aryan ancestors came from, measuring skulls and such like and getting support. Not to mention archaeological teams all over the place. As you say the grail, the spear, the ark so on. The nazi's and the occult gets very trippy. Mort
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I think I watched on you tube a few years ago something about spielberg having connections to influential people and was encouraged to make movies like close encounters/AI/minority report/Jurassic park etc the first movie I seen and thought great movie then watch it years later and think "jesus christ was it a hidden message?" was logans run which is all about population control.

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I've never seen Logan's run Frankie but I'll defo give that a watch! Ed001 has told me to watch cleanface! Had a quick check on the reviews and from the comments I read I'll defo give that a watch this weekend as well as Logan's Run!
Mort it may of been raiders of the lost ark I was referring to been a long time since I watched it! In saying that I loved crystal skulls one! I've not checked to see if there is any evidence to back it up but the story but I loved the whole concept of it!

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Both of them involve Nazi's and "mythical" artifacts from Judeo-Christian mythology.

Both tie into things that were going on at the time.

Look up the Ahnenerbe.

Mort
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Yes I've heard of them Mort! I watched a documentary on how an ancient map of Antarctica was found in 1929 which showed the land without the ice and water! They believed this map was created by a great Turkish general called Piri Reis I think! It was with this map that ahnenerbe were able to create a fortress that other army was capable of attacking! Also it said they were kind of creating a Kind of X-men school where all 'gifted' people who ad special talents would go! They also believet that Atlantis was the home to superia ones that had advanced knowledge and these were the ones that apparently were flying in helicopter shaped crafts and ufo's as seen in an Egyptian tomb! Scary if it all true!

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Discussion #1907Talk Sense

21 Feb 2013 17:17:34
Is this the page where we can discuss why cannabis is STILL illegal in most countries around the world?

By now you would have thought these big pharmaceutical companies would have wised up and seen the medicinal purposes of the plant.

 

There is no medicinal properties in cannabis it leads to psychosis, you wanna see some of the cases we have to deal with in community mental health, because all they do all day is sit on their ps3 or x box & smoke weed all day, they get money for doing nothing. They get everything for nothing, as long as they have got that bit of paper with a psychiatric report they don't have to worry. {Ed002's Note - There is sufficient empirical evidence to substantiate that cannabis can have a positive influence on sufferers of several medical conditions. There is also considerable evidence that reasonable social use does little or no permanent harm. Take alcohol as a comparison - there is nothing whatsoever wrong with reasonable and sensible use whereas period binge drinking or sustained abuse will invariably lead to problems. Taking extreme cases provides no foundation for putting together a sensible argument.}
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No medical properties what a joke
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Someone once told me it was due to hemp the reason behind them banning it don't know if it's true but apparently hemp is the most resourceful substance as fuel clothes and other materials can be made from it!

RR!
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Why bring alcohol in to the discussion, total different social problem, MS suffers use cannabis but eventually it has no benefits {Ed002's Note - It was a comparison. You have just brought MS suffferers in to the discussion for no reason.}
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Weed, tobacco and alcohol all do the same if taken in large amounts but I think there must be something more to marijuana as I can't understand why it would be illegal unless it is good for people. It could be that the big companies know something about it that we don't.
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Discussion #1906Talk Sense

21 Feb 2013 13:16:01
Thought i'd put up a few things.

Regards our old friends the Bushes a few facts:

George H W Bush, 41st President:

George Sr cannot recall his whereabouts on November 22nd 1963. This surely has to be suspicious, you ask anyone of a certain age what they were doing that day and they can pretty much give you a blow by blow account. Yet he doesn't know where he was? Strange especially given as he lived and worked in Texas.

Incidentally there has emerged photo's of a chap who looks a little like Bush in Dallas hours after the shooting. Its not good quality and it might not even be him, but if it is what was he doing in Dallas and why can't he remember it?

tomflocco.com/Docs/63/BushJfkBookDepo.htm

Its not brilliant quality, it might not be him, but there are similiarities.

Bush's oil company Zapata has links to the CIA, and may have been used as a cover company for the Bay of PIgs. The Zapata oil platform is close to Cuba. 2 of the boats used at Bay of Pigs were the Zapata and the Barbara. Speculation persists that Bush was involved with the CIA back in the early 1960's.

All 3 Bush's have been in the Skull & Bones society.

Prescott Bush along with fellow "Bonesmen" Averell & Roland Harriman made a fortune in in financing Mr Adolf Hitler. Prescott was stripped of his holdings in the Union Banking Corporation in 1942 under the "Trading with the Enemy Act". Not a good sign.

Bush and Harriman would eventually hire attorney John Foster Dulles to help cover up any improprieties that might arise under investigative scrutiny.

John Foster Dulles was the brother of Allen Dulles, the later CIA director, who was the architect - together with Vice President Richard Nixon and George Bush - of the Bay of Pigs invasion to overthrow Fidel Castro's Cuba. Allen Dulles was fired by President Kennedy because of the fiasco of the Bay of Pigs. Yet Allen Dulles was appointed by Lyndon Johnson to serve on the Warren Commission to "investigate" JFK's death.

Dulles was known to resent the Kennedy's yet he's appointed to serve on the commission that investigates the assassination? And his family has links to the Bush's.

Prescott and the Harrimans were involved with CBS, sitting on the board. So the Bush's also have ties to a major US media outlet. Incidentally the CBS logo is an eye, a well known symbol of the Illuminati.

Curiously the Harrimans were big in the Democrat party whilst Prescott was big in the Republicans.

Prescott Bush advised Eisenhower to run for President and then Richard Nixon for Vice President. He was a major financer of Nixon's presidential campaign against Kennedy. Prescott Bush was an avid JFK opponent and Nixon has always been a puppet for the interests of the Bush family. Many people in G W Bush's govt had ties to Nixon such as Cheney and Rumsfeld, and Nixon also gave G H Bush several plum jobs.

I could go on and on, there are many more ties to Bay of Pigs, Watergate, Nixon, Ford, Bush 1, 2 & 3, people who constantly pop up like David Sanchez Morales and several others who always seem to be involved in Bay of Pigs, Dallas, Watergate. All 3 are connected. So are other things like the RFK shooting. This all culminates into 911.

Mort

 

Great post mort, I have seen the picture of bush on jesse ventura conspiracy program, it does look similar and they also show a picture of supposedly three tramps that were dressed too good to be tramps. one of the tramps they claim was a cia agent and was involved in the plot to kill jfk, his son (cia agent) made an audio cassette on his fathers death bed, where this guy claims he was part of the conspiracy and was proud of it, I really don't know what to believe about it but the picture of the tramp and the cia agent are also similar.

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21 Feb 2013 16:18:45
Well if you think about it him and his old man have killed more people than any body else.
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21 Feb 2013 17:12:16
Franky yes the three hobo's are another strange curious case from a day of strange things. I think they do feature in the Costner film. I need to go look something up. Mort
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Franky yes the tramps looked to clean and well dressed to be proper tramps.

Here's the dodgy bit, they were arrested and taken down the cop shop, as admiited at the Warren Commision. But the arrest records have "vanished"

Also people have looked at the photo's:

"by the late 1970s, conspiracist "researchers" had identified at least five of the three. The first tramp in line was thought to be Thomas Vallee, or Frank Sturgis (of Watergate fame) or Daniel Carswell. The second tramp in line was identified as either Sturgis or Carswell. The last tramp was "identified" as E. Howard Hunt or Fred Chrisman. "

However apparently the tramps were tracked down in the 90's see this site for details:

mcadams. posc. mu. edu/3tramps.htm
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Wow thanks Mort quality post! If that is him then that's bad news! I know why it wasn't investigated due to who he was but you would think someone would have investigated this with today's technology and all! Like face recognition or something along them lines I know the government have the ability to use all resources to be able to locate people!

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Discussion #1905Talk Sense

21 Feb 2013 00:38:06
Just watched my favourite film V for Vendetta! If you haven't seen definatley worth a watch! Puts an interesting twist on Guy Fawkes and how governments control country's! I think a lot of the subjects raised could so easily be true!

RR! {Ed001's Note - I agree, excellent film. Speaking of good conspiracy type films, have you seen Cleanskin?}

 

No is it worth a watch? I believe most thing in V like the epidemics being produced by government only for them to benefit by producing the cure and selling it for billions! Wasn't it proved Aids was man made?

RR! {Ed001's Note - very worth a watch, well I thought it was good anyway. Certainly a very interesting storyline, and related to subjects often discussed on here. Yes, Aids was, or certainly claimed to be and there was no real dispute to the claims.}
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It scares me to think Ed that V is based on 2015 which is 2 years away and the way our country is now could so easily go down that route of Marshall law being called curfew's in place! I'll defo give it a watch ed love anything that opens your eyes! I'll let you know what I think!

RR! {Ed001's Note - we aren't far off V, that is very true. Last year's riots showed they can easily stir up trouble to bring in curfews and marshal law.}
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Exactly ed! With the hike on prices for fuel, food, clothing and other Essential items and employment at its highest there backing us into a corner where we only have on choice but to rebel! One person will step in with a solution and 99% of the people will fall in line because they believe there is no other choice whilst the other 1% will still push for the truth! I wonder why people think I'm crazy! :)

RR! {Ed001's Note - crazy is not a bad thing, Tesla was considered crazy and he was the greatest mind of the 20th century.}
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Very true ed! Anyways i'd rather be classed as crazy than believe everything is as we're told! It still amazes me that people reuse to believe that the people tha make decisions could ever do anything corrupt or something that could potentially hurt or even worse kill us! I'm just glad there are sites like this where people can educate them selves on so many theories and share the information they've gathered over years and years of reading and watching documentaries!

RR! {Ed001's Note - we spend our lives being brought up to think one particular way and never to think for ourselves. All the way through our indoctrination, sorry education system, we are told that this is truth and we are not allowed to question anything presented to us as a fact. Most of those things are, at the very least, debatable, but we are taught not to question, just accept. It is little wonder most people just go along with it. If you do question it or give a different answer to a question, you are ridiculed and told you are wrong. Case in point, my daughter had a question about who invented the pendulum given to her in science. She found a number of different answers to the question, but the one thing that was not in dispute was that the pendulum was in use in ancient China to monitor and detect earthquakes. The question said it was an Italian that invented it, so she asked for my help. I encouraged her to explain in her answer what she had discovered, and why she was querying the question, being as Italy didn't exist until a few thousand years afterwards. All she got was a big red line through her answer and a telling off from her teacher! She was gutted, it really upset her. Now she is afraid to give any answer but the one they are looking for.}
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Wow! You think your daughter would have been rewarded for using her initiative and researching the subject! A little different I know but I remember when I was in primary school I drew a symbol that resembled a swastika! I was 9 and had no idea what this meant or what it represented as far as I was concerned I just drew to Z's crossing over! I was suspended from school and they told my parents that I should get counciling as I would grow up with wrong beliefs! So rather than educate me on what it meant they punished me. This was a roman catholic school! They don't like It when you go against what they want you to learn! At least your daughter knows more than the person that's teaching her!

RR! {Ed001's Note - it is bizarre how quick they are to jump to conclusions, without even asking questions. It is a complete lack of care though, they don't care, they just want an easy life. Most teachers these days are joining because it pays off their student loans and they didn't do well enough to get a well paid job anywhere else. We literally have a whole generation of failures moving into teaching our kids!}
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Discussion #1904Talk Sense

20 Feb 2013 20:19:24
Just seen that Michael jacksons son has started out as a talk show host. Watched a video to see how weird his kids are but turns out they are normal!

Then it struck me. These kids are white (apart from the little one) and I mean amazingly white. I'm sure that Michael was born a black man and had cosmetic surgery but 100% white kids from a black man? Wtf is that?

Anyone think they are actors?

 

Didn't he take his ex wifes egg and impregnate it with a white mans sperm? {Ed001's Note - is this a conspiracy theory or just gossip regarding a man who clearly suffered from mental problems all his life? I am not so sure this is anything other than tittle tattle for gossip pages in a tabloid rag myself.}
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Sorry ed, was just giving my understanding of it, maybe the post shouldn't of been let through for people to reply to. {Ed001's Note - I would have deleted it, if it had been me, but I was asking for the original poster to reply and explain before I just delete it. I might have missed the conspiracy surrounding it, so I wanted to give him/her a chance to explain it.}
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Discussion #1903Talk Sense

20 Feb 2013 13:23:10
Is it me or is there a lot of news and programmes about bigfoot fox news and animal planet have 2-3 items each week and the latest is some dna result proving they exist

felixbakero

 

Maybe they are trying to get people used to the idea of bigfoot before they reveal it's real. by a body or DNA. (not saying it is real but who knows)

{Ed033's Note - This is worth watching i you haven't seen it before. Lloyd Pye - Everything You Know Is Wrong

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Excellent watch!

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Discussion #1902Talk Sense

19 Feb 2013 20:37:31
Not sure about posting this ed, I live on the Wirral, if any other posters live round about did anyone else see the 2 bright objects in the sky, this is one of many sightings I have seen don't wanna say its a UFO some people think your bonkers, but this is one of many odd things I have witnessed. CM68

 

One of many?

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What's with the cocky response frankyscouse, if you want an exact number 4 sightings, typical response from an obnoxious know it all, you can't wait to ridicule everyone else's post mr conspiracy poster himself. CM68
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Doesn't Tom Slemen write about this kind of thing in that neck of the woods?
Might be worth getting in touch via his website.
I've seen a couple of odd things in the sky in different areas of the country. Over Staffordshire, saw a fast moving erratic light, faster than any aircraft.
Over Shoreham Beach in Sussex, another fast moving zig-zag light that moved south to north, horizon to horizon, and disappeared in around 5 seconds.
There might be a reasonable explanation, but.
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Thanks Khakipillowslip will have a look at his website. CM68
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Hey cm68 don't get all defensive it was a straight forward question as I was wondering if its a certain area and time you have seen theses objects, I to my mind have never ridiculed anyone's posts I may not agree with some of them but never ridiculed, and I never claim to know it all its just my opinion.

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