Talk Sense

02 Mar 2012 13:40:22
i think people take the bible too literally. Its an attempt to communicate across time and to communicate big ideas. Its like those data plaques we put on the voyager probes. You need to communicate but you need a way of how to communicate. So you use simple concepts any advanced civilisation can understand. Same with the bible. Its just across time and with different translations and interpretations the original meaning has been distorted. Its not really a talking snake as we think of it its an illusion to something that can be taken as a talking snake. Same with the vedas and the flying carpets.

02 Mar 2012 13:09:20
Ok heres something a bit different but its my personal conspiricy thought, why would energy companies be trying to help you buy less of their product ? These energy monitors they have dished out in the millions all have to be pluged in and use energy, allthough not a lot in each household collectively across all their customers who use one are going to be using up millions of energy units each week, anyone else think its a con ?

Matt_RFC

02 Mar 2012 11:35:57
Going back to the religious theme, what do people think of the virgin Mary being artificially inseminated, (as she was still a virgin). Potentially inseminated by the serpent/snake in the desert. Alot of stuff seems to suggest that the serpent is symbolic to aliens, even more specifically reptilian aliens.
Quite a few well known historic paintings showing Mary with flying saucers / aircraft in the background.
I've even stumbled across a painting by hitler of mary & Jesus with what looks like a spacecraft below the sun.
Again it's been mentioned before that in the bible there are references to flying objects/angels/beams of light coming through clouds from disc shaped objects.
Is our true history and origins now becoming clearer?

Supasub {Ed001's Note - there are countless stories of virgin births in antiquity, it was used as a way of ensuring a woman who had lost her virginity prior to marriage still had some value. It can be rape, consensual sex etc, but, whichever it was, a woman's value to her family was in being married to the right family and to do so she needed to have her virginity.}

02 Mar 2012 01:24:59
right guys here is a topic i have thought about,i consider myself as quite mellow and a genuine good human being but there is still that savage instict in me if for instance something happend to my kids etc etc and if we had a poll prob 99 per cent would say the same thing my point is have we really changed at all from prehostric times? i dont think so, the human race is and will always be agressive,its human nature(pardon the pun)
frankyscouse

01 Mar 2012 22:01:09
If Jesus was alive today he would be a trade unionist leader

01 Mar 2012 19:07:18
Enjoying the religion debate, lie to chuck a few ideas out there.

God created the planet in 7 days. OK Physically impossible you say with modern technology. But what if Aliens did it with advance technology? Kind of terraformed the earth?

Noah's ark. Noah had advanced technology from the aliens or was an alien himself. He didn't literally put 2 of each animal on board. He took dna samples of each animal and had them stored on board, and also had seed samples like the rare/ endangered plant thing at Kew Gardens.

Fact is our ancestors were more advanced than modern thinkers like to admit, look at South/ Central America, Egypt, China, India and so on.


Onto the the other point just who are we/ religious people worshipping there is a school of thought that does suggets that a lot of organised reliigons is devil worship and that it was a big con job, again its the Cathar viewpoint that this earth is hell and "god" is the false god.

01 Mar 2012 16:59:29
Can we list some popular conspiracy theories that come to mind and give a yes, no, maybe or not sure next to them to gauge opinion ?

01 Mar 2012 15:57:41
Continuing sort of from the debate a few comments down about Catholics, i've always thought that the gods people pray to could well be fundamentally bad, isnt the 'devils' best weapon deception? People blindly follow these religions when they are just so destructive without ever questioning it or considering an alternative, almost brainwashed, Bad always dresses up as good, people could well be praying to the devil and thinking its god

LIAM

29 Feb 2012 22:48:46
Was watching this video on youtube...found it very interesting and the way things are going pretty realistic...David Icke i know but i think he has a pretty good grasp of most things that are going on!

PmacC

28 Feb 2012 19:49:46
Hey I need to read a book for my school, I'm really interested in conspiracies and love reading what everyone one here has to say, often blows my mind....can anyone suggest a good conspiracy book on 911, Lockerbie or any others.
Much Appreciated
Stanz

28 Feb 2012 10:31:14
right i might of mentioned this topic in the past,cant remember after celebrating liverpools win,its about religeon and i come from a famaily of roman catholics a big famaily of catholics, we are not big church go"ers but we all have been to catholic school made comuinon etc etc,infact royalty has always came 2nd to the pope,now the things i have watched about the vatican and being part of the ocult and satan has shook me ,sacrifices of young kids still supposedly going on for the illimuniti , put it this way if this shocks me and questions my religeon and i am not a practising catholic, what would it do to people around the world who belive in god?
frankyscouse

27 Feb 2012 20:08:25
What do u know on megrahi's involvement in the lockerbie bombing ? Or the case in general ?

{Ed033's Note - What happened was this: The Americans shot down an Iranian plane that had Iranian people on board and didn't even apologise after they had shot it down allegedly by accident.

At the time, the Ayatollah Khomeini was so enraged that the Americans didn't even apologise that he put out a Fatwah that said the Iranians had to blow up 10 American planes. Soon after this, the Ayatollah Khomeini died leaving the Fatwah that still had to be obeyed.

The new Iranian regime decided that blowing up 10 American planes was impossible and that if they could blow up just 1 plane, then that would be enough to satisfy the Fatwah.

The CIA knew about this and decided that it was possible to do a deal with the Iranians where by an American plane could be blown up. The plane that the CIA chose had on board a group of American intelligence agents that were coming back to America to tell the truth on certain issues. The bomb was set to go off at 30,000 feet because the flight plan meant that the plane should be over the sea at 30,000 feet so this would leave no problems do deal with but the plane was still over land at this height and the plane came down over Lockerbie.

Then the Americans came over quickly to Lockerbie and tampered with the crime scene to remove the evidence they didn't want to fall into the scottish police's hands. Obviously this went against protocol but this is what happened.

They decided to blame Libya for the Lockerbie bombings and had a trial where only 1 person was found guilty i.e megrahi but he may not have had anything to do with it but they needed to find someone guilty for the crime.

Obviously what I put was just a brief overview and a lot of what I just said is in the book, Trail of the Octopus by Lester K Coleman.