Flat Earth

25 Jan 2020 21:24:23
I haven\'t listened to the post above this. I will try to later (probably fall asleep to it) .

These are the same \"proofs\" used for flat earth. I haven\'t seen any counter arguments disproving these experiments, yet. Are there any? .

They (the experiments) seem to prove no Earth movement. This still has no preference towards a flat or globe Earth. I still struggle with Airey\'s failure. I understand what is being said, it\'s not something I know about so thinking and visualising multiple elements at once, for me, takes time for me to make an opinion, so I know it isn\'t a parrot-effect.

The problem for me, is that everyone seems to ignore (but still use as proof for a globe) is all the NASA photoshop Earth pictures. I mean build a camera/ satellite/ (balloon? ) specifically for that purpose, a full view of the amazing planet, Earth. I just can\'t understand why they haven\'t. unless there is some sort of barrier/ waters/ radiation that is preventing it.

22 Jan 2020 18:27:52
I can completely understand how you feel on the FE theory, AJH. I struggle with, what it would mean if true, too. Something is not right though. And I\'m trying to find out with my own research. I\'d be happy to admit I was wrong about something if I was proved to be so.

Its the fact that there are no real photos of the Earth in full view. They are all photoshopped and made to look how we would expect it to look. Why is that? . They send probes and robotic machines to even the farthest planets to take photographs, yet they have none of the planet we live on?

If you were on a spacecraft going to the Moon. Would the first thing you look at and photograph be the Earth? This just doesn\'t add up to me.

As for the 500 years of science being denied. I am just about to start, probably a life\'s work, to try and understand the works of A. T. Fomenko. Someone that believes \"consensual history is a finely woven magic fabric of intricate lies about events predating the XVI century\".

That will be after I have read: Isaac Newton - The chronology of ancient kingdoms. Who believes the same. I will share my thoughts as and when.

Just to add a little more to your responses. I don\'t believe everyone at Nasa knows much at all with, what is going on. It\'s all compartmentalised, so no one knows what anyone else is doing. And there are a lot of ex nasa people who are now flat Earthers which generates questions. It would be possible for the elite few at the top of these organisations to be the only ones in the know.

I\'m not a flat earther (yet), but I am open to the possibility to it being true. You can see my journey down the rabbit hole from about 2 months ago on here. I actually said to Ed recently that, if you told me a few months ago I\'d be researching the FE theory, I would have told you, you were insane!

21 Jan 2020 18:50:27
Q4. Why do stars in the night sky not stay on the same place. Are they moving or is the Earth moving?

A4. The Earth is fixed, not moving not rotating. The luminaries we call stars (which may not be suns, but could be plasma?) move.

See the video in the below thread at timestamp 21 Jan 2020 13:26:21.



Q5. I\'ve watched sunrises and sunsets, is it the Sun moving or the Earth?

A5. The Earth doesn\'t move. The Sun moves away from you until you can\'t see it anymore, then it moves towards you until you can see it again.

The Sun does not set, but fades out of view




Q6. Similar question, why does the sun start in the East and finish in the West?

A6. If you know the current Flat Earth model or have downloaded the Flat Earth Sun, Moon & Zodiac Clock app, it shows the movement of the Sun and the Moon

21 Jan 2020 17:37:08
AJH, As for star movements, see Eds response to my question below this thread.

But, this is a good video to explain the Sun and Moon, the seasons etc on a Flat Earth/ Dome model.

21 Jan 2020 17:09:39
Thanks, Ed. Haha no it wasn\'t a default switch back to SGE model. Maybe I should have put, It throws a spanner in the works of how I visualise the flat Earth model, especially relating to Gleason\'s FE map and how Antarctica is a surrounding ice wall.

I asked you a while back how the Sun works (not daylight everywhere) on FE, and you pointed me towards the info of the dome. That made perfect sense to me. It was more the fact I couldn\'t mentally visualise how the star hemispheres worked on this same dome principle. Knew there must have been a way. Knew you\'d help me find it. Thanks.

21 Jan 2020 14:56:07
Q2. Along the same lines, how about the other planets in our solar system, flat or round?

A2. NASA and all space agencies have been stuck in low Earth orbit because there seems to be a crystal, watery barrier above us called the Firmament. The luminaries that are called stars are within the Firmament. I\'m guessing the luminaries called planets are within the Firmament. At the moment i think spherical plasma. see video below of Mars zoomed in seen through Nikon P900:






Q3. Does the Earth move around the Sun or is it stationary?

A3. The Sun moves in circles (of increasing and decreasing diameter) above the fixed, non moving, non rotating Earth. (See Flat Earth Sun, Moon & Zodiac Clock app video above)

31 Dec 2019 10:12:50
So, hypothetically speaking. If the flat earth dome system existed. Pretty much everything we have been told is fake.
Is everything outside the dome real? or a projection onto said dome? .
Gravity or the effect of the force we know as gravity, would become very complex to explain with what would become defunct main stream science.

I have spent a very, very long time outside in the cold, looking at, and collecting digital camera data from such named objects as M51, horsehead nebulae etc etc. I\'m going to be pretty pissed if it turns out I was taking an image, of an image. haha :)

30 Dec 2019 11:39:54
If you were anywhere on a flat earth, and its was sunny. Would it not be sunny everywhere on that flat earth?

16 Dec 2019 16:36:08
No, no they are not.
I went to watch the launch of the Atlantis from the Kennedy Space Centre in Florida. I\'ve also seen them assembling the rockets during a tour of the facility a week later.

Also, that video doesn\'t even look like a balloon. It looks like it\'s thin sheet metal collapsing under its own weight.

Additionally, the uploader is a flat earther, enough said.

21 Aug 2018 12:51:08
I\'ve been checking out lots of stuff about The California fires and DEW\'s, and there\'s plenty to think about, but Jamie Lee is a fully committed flat earther which makes me just a little sceptical about the rest of his work. He also claims the Athens fires were started by DEW\'s.

30 Nov 2017 19:05:14
The other part about this was if some flights are fake what do the flight operator\'s gain from offering flights what don\'t exist? And also I think this video touches on the detours not making sense on a globe but makes sense on the flat earth model. Not that I believe the flat earth stuff but sometimes the things they bring up can be interesting.

29 Nov 2017 20:38:14
p1, it is a fascinating subject when you introduce the apparent anomalies with some flights.

I came across an interesting site that claims to debunk the flat earth theories. You might find it worth a look. All the best.

goo.gl/U0GUP

28 Nov 2017 23:48:35
Not quite sure what your diverted flight has to do with the flat earth conversation?

28 Nov 2017 06:06:35
Ed, I\'m not ignoring the video, I\'m giving a personal anecdote about why my flight was diverted.

The video doesn\'t have any evidence anyway, it\'s all hypothetical and misinformed.

It also makes it even more laughable, when the Flat Earth believers announce they are not religious, but then fail to realise that the Flat Earth movement started as a religious movement against Science thanks to the Book of Genesis.

Video\'s like this remind me of that time that Rapper went on top of a Hill and said he shouldn\'t be able to see Manhattan from there, but he could.
He failed to take into consideration that anything above 15 stories high would negate the natural curve of the planet, because it rises above it. But could he see the actual land mass of Manhattan Island? Nope, which is what the curvature states.

himawari8.nict.go.jp/
This website is a website which is dedicated to the Himawari 8 Satellite, it orbits around the Earth at a distance of over 20,000 miles and takes pictures of the Earth in full every 10 minutes. No, it\'s not fake

youtube.com/watch?v=Eya6IfVTU1Q
This is the launch coverage of said Satellite. go to 29:50 to see the actual launch.

27 Nov 2017 23:41:35
Evening all,

I consider myself pretty open minded but I do struggle with the flat earth theory. Although, it is very interesting. I have a mate who\'s a \'militant\' flat earther. Some of what he says begs a lot of questions but I do struggle to make the leap.

I would love to hear as many peoples opinions and reasons for or against flat earth as possible. Ideally without having to put up with any shouting, swearing, insults and drunken ranting, which is how this subject normally ends with my mate.

I remember someone on here, a while back, mentioning there are things/ islands/ structures in the oceans that aren\'t on our publicly viewed maps or globes. Could this be why planes don\'t fly direct to some of the destinations mentioned in the video? I admit, I\'m baffled by it.

It\'s a very intriguing subject.