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Discussion #170Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 22:26:34
"The world is governed by personalities very different to what people that cannot see further than their eyes, believe"

- Benjamin Disraeli - (Statesman)

JQuan

 

Who would believe an illuminati member no matter how cute his words?
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Discussion #169Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 22:16:59
Why is there no God?

Can any of the non belivers please explain?

Now before you answer please understand that god and religion are very different. Religion is like nylon man made and most anything man makes he contaminates for one reason or another

The native american indians have no religion along the lines many people from western europe understand yet they are one of the most spiritual races on earth and have a connection to god and the universe. The god of the american indian may not have a familar name however is it any different a god. If I live in England my name is John, If I live in germany I might be called Johann, in denmark I might be called Jan, etc. Whats in a name?

I am a simple person, is it possible to have a simple answer that makes sense?

There is no god is not a answer merely a statement that is not explained!

 

Thjere is no God because Chris has not been introduced to him end of story!
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Z.Sitchin states that the Annunaki believe that they were created by a God.

Len
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Discussion #168Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 19:11:30
Sorry about all the posts guys, but just seen someone mention the reptile thing with the illuminati.
I don't believe this, and hope no one thinks that as I mentioned the Illuminati believe the Anunnaki that the Anunnaki are reptiles.
The Anunnaki are not reptiles or whatever some like to call them. The Anunnaki are just like us (maybe a bit different) as we are made in their image. As some believe!

Peace

Jay

 

Thanks for the clarification mate, it was getting a bit confusing. Although some do say reptiles.
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I don't know where people are getting the reptile thing from, it certainly has nothing to do with the Anunnaki anyway!

Glad I cleared that up, Its annoying when people take a perfectly plausible theory, then add on to it to satisfy their own theory. It's kinda like disinfo, and discredits the original theory.

So in a nutshell THE ANUNNAKI ARE NOT REPTILES.

Peace

Jay
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I thought the anunnaki were a group of gods? In the same way that the Greek gods were immortal deities. In other words imaginary beings that simple people believed in because they didn't know any better.

Chris in Tamworth
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Or more to the point maybe ancient scholars created the concepts of super beinsg they called gods to communicate quite technical stuff to people that didn't have the understanding. kind of like biblical parables etc
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Chris

Yes they were Gods, well believed to be by the Sumerians, who were an extremely advanced civilisation.
To say simple minded is a bit harsh. Put it this way mate, how would you have described people coming from the sky with technology that you had no understanding of? Because they must have witnessed these things, as how do you describe something that you've never seen before? You can't, so something in their story is true!
Thing is, places that they spoke about are still in existence today. Eeden for example. The tomb of Inanna/Ishtar.
These people were also almost mass producing texts with clay scrolls. So for you to say simple minded, is very small minded my friend.
The tower of babel is of Anunnaki origin, as is the story of the flood, which was hijacked by the Christian bible.
You see mate, for you to give a FAIR argument, do some research, and I'll be more than happy to debate on this subject with you.

Ps. That doesn't mean watch a few vids on YouTube to make up your mind, as there's a lot of disinfo out there for both sides of the argument.

Peace

Jay
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Discussion #167Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 19:03:41
Hi everyone!
The Norway vortex, what you guys think??
We were told it was a rocket, but when you see the pics/videos, you'll see it's defo not a rocket!
What bothers me though is that it looks TOO PERFECT. which suggests to me it's either

1. PROJECT BLUE BEAM or
2. a very real vortex

I think it could be any of the 2, but it still hasn't been fully explained to Anyones satisfaction,certainly not mine anyway.

Anyway guys, check it for yourself and let me know what you think

Peace

Jay

 

Jay I am going to check this out.
Raz
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I mentioned project bluebeam a week or so ago and no one seemed interested. have a carefull read about it, very odd.......there is something happening......IT COULD BE A HOLOGRAM....??

matty b
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Discussion #166Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 18:51:51
what do you all think about Planet X (a.k.a. Nibiru) or is all on the net a load of sh#t

 

Youtube.com/watch?v=2rrelv96nCQ&feature=related
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To me, Nibiru is very real, but yeah, the web is full of disinfo about it. So I can understand why people think it doesn't exist.
If anyone wants proper stuff to research on Nibiru, then I'd suggest checking out zecharia sitchin, he translated the Sumerian clay tablets which speak of Nibiru and the Anunnaki!
What's worth noting (you'll see this on YouTube) is that the Sumerians knew of all the planets in our solar system, as well as Nibiru. The strange thing about this, is that we didn't discover Pluto till the 1900's. So how did the Sumerians know of all planets, including Nibiru way back anywhere between 5000 to 7000 years ago?
Where they told about the planets? Did they have an advanced technology lost in time?
It's Anyones guess, but it's fascinating!

Peace

Jay
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Youtube.com/watch?v=Sq_QWWZaynw&feature=related
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Discussion #165Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 18:47:59
can anyone tell me the differences between Conspiracy and theory's (e.g string theory) cos some of them theory's are more crazier then 911 Conspiracy maybe the difference is ones about space life and the other is about Governance, Dictators, or the ruling class the people that what ta keep the masses down

 

Originally the word theory as it is used in English is a technical term from Ancient Greek philosophy. It is derived from theoria, θεωρία, meaning "a looking at, viewing, beholding", and refers to contemplation or speculation, as opposed to action. Theory is especially often contrasted to "practice" (from Greek praxis, πρᾶξις) an Aristotelian concept which is used in a broad way to refer to any activity done for the sake of action, in contrast with theory, which does not need an aim which is an action. By extension of the philosophical meaning, "theoria" is also a word still used in theological contexts.

A classical example of the distinction between theoretical and practical uses the discipline of medicine: Medical theory and theorizing involves trying to understand the causes and nature of health and sickness, while the practical side of medicine is trying to make people healthy. These two things are related but can be independent, because it is possible to research health and sickness without curing specific patients, and it is possible to cure a patient without knowing how the cure worked.

In modern contexts, while theories in the arts and philosophy may address ideas and empirical phenomena which are not easily measurable, in modern science the term "theory", or "scientific theory" is generally understood to refer to a proposed explanation of empirical phenomena, made in a way consistent with scientific method. Such theories are preferably described in such a way that any scientist in the field is in a position to understand, verify, and challenge (or "falsify") it. In this modern scientific context the distinction between theory and practice corresponds roughly to the distinction between theoretical science and technology or applied science. A common distinction sometimes made in science is between theories and hypotheses, with the former being considered as satisfactorily tested or proven and the latter used to denote conjectures or proposed descriptions or models which have not yet been tested or proven to the same standard.



A conspiracy theory explains an event as being the result of an alleged plot by a covert group or organization or, more broadly, the idea that important political, social or economic events are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.

The term "conspiracy theory" is used to indicate a narrative genre that includes a broad selection of (not necessarily related) arguments for the existence of grand conspiracies. The term is frequently used by scholars and in popular culture to identify secret military, banking, or political actions aimed at "stealing" power, money, or freedom, from "the people". Conspiracy theories are based on the notion that complex plots are put into motion by powerful hidden forces. Less illustrious uses refer to folklore and urban legend and a variety of explanatory narratives which are constructed with methodological flaws or biases. Originally it was a neutral term but during the political upheaval of the 1960s it acquired its current derogatory sense, In the pejorative sense the term is used to automatically dismiss claims that are deemed ridiculous, misconceived, paranoid, unfounded, outlandish or irrational. A proven conspiracy theory, such as the notion that Nixon and his aide were behind the Watergate break in and coverup, is usually referred to as something else, such a investigative journalism, or historical analysis. Conspiracy theories rely on the notion that the truth of historical events cannot be found in official records, but only by seeking out what is deliberately hidden.
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Discussion #164Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 18:37:23
I wonder what technology (possibly ET technology) could cause thousands of people to see the sun spin around in the sky several times, which is known as "The Miracle of the Sun" in Fatima, Portugal on October 13, 1917 where the 3rd secret of Fatima was allegedly given to some children? And what the purpose of such a demonstration was?

 

I had that experience once after a christening and a few too many jourums down the pub!
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Discussion #163Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 17:49:46
Hi everyone, have to post this on here as I'm sure some of you will want to watch!

Tomorrow night at 10pm on sky channel Showcase ( channel 201 ) THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY

covers a lot of 9/11, how it came about, who it looks like is behind it and other stuff you'd want to know!
Also explains about ancient relics, artifacts and tombs of Sumeria being destroyed by us troops, and the stealing of some artifacts as well!

A fantastic watch guys

Peace

Jay

Ps. RAZ, u better watch it! Lol

 

Legend mate nice one Jay!
Raz
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Discussion #162Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 17:11:03
Just a small note to Chris in Tamworth just because you are a non believer in any of the posts that i comment on about mars does not mean its utter nonsense im not going to call you an idiot because your opinion is just that YOUR OPINION but in future keep yours to yourself i have been interested in mars and alien activity for 16 years also the paranormal and have witnessed things even you could not deny

MJ

 

Nobodys opinion should be dismissed however some things are just plain stupid.

Not saying anything you believe in is stupid.
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Thank you for your honest opinion all i can say about the things i comment on are that there is more evidence to prove the things i say are of a high possibility than they are false...I just dont appreciate Chris stating that im talking utter rubbish when he's probably never even researched anything about what i say although i know he is a total non believer but im not going to slate him or anyone for that

MJ
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I see your point of view mate

but not everybody will believe in what you believe

Not everybody believes in what I believe and that's okay

Rather than getting into an argument which usually cannot be won as the other person digs in deeper the more the argument goes on to continue the argument is futile

You hare a couple of options

1. You can ignore what others say

2. you can engage with them in a non hostile way and see there point of view and them introduce them to your point of view

When you do this very often they ignore you

3. you can go all guns blazing into an argument

4. Maybe there are other options too

The more you become secure in your self the less the opinions of others matter, what matters is that which is important to you

I happen to agree with a lot of what you are saying, I too have seen strange things not aliens that cannot be explained and your opinion is just as valid as mine or Chris or anyone elses

It takes the bigger man to walk away from confrontation and sometimes its the best thing to do!

In General people may twist what you say or read what you have posted and take a different meaning because posts are short this is bound to happen on occasion

Sometimes you need to fight your corner but not everytime

If you think this is BS that's okay mate

The hidden hand
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The hidden hand, your ok in my book and what you say is 100% correct i salute you.

MJ
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End of the day lads there is far too much weird stuff that goes on that cannot be explained.

There is stuff i don't believe or am sceptical on, but then there is stuff i do believe. I just come on here to see what everyone else is saying and maybe learn a few things.
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Discussion #161Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 16:28:40
coincidence that operation iraqi liberation spells out oil? Coincidence or illuminati? The war against terror also spells out

 

Hidden in plain sight m8.

Len
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Discussion #160Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 16:01:44
"Sir" Alex Ferguson - manager of the self proclaimed red DEVILS. He is so powerful that is one word will be believed my an army of millions of his followers worldwide. 

Knighted by the BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY for his services to "football", when other equals in football management have come nowhere near getting this accolade. 

Is it just me or is there more to this guy than meets the eye?

Akram

 

It's just you mate. Why should Sir Alex not have been knighted for services to football? As much as other managers and football people may also deserve to have been knighted it doesn't mean there is more to him than meets the eye.

Rjmanutd
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Lol could be mate, he is a man in the media. And very high up too. I the public eye. etc etc so why not?
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I'm fairly certain that Ole whisky nose got his knighthood for charity work in Scotland (but doesnt like to talk about it).

Len
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Discussion #159Talk Sense

21 Sep 2011 14:03:50
Someone help me out here if you can, what is the deal with Area 51 - why so secretive. Was 9/11 planned and did man land on the moon??

Lew

 

Aera 51 supposed alien landing (there are pcitures) and where american fighter planes were develop

The russians were the first country to put a man in space and the only country to go to the moon

The russians currently charge the americans 51M to go to the international space station.


9/11 inside job done under a false flag to erode the rights of the American people as the bogeyman had to be contained the American Government needed special powers to do this and these powers curtailed the liberties of the ordinary person in america

You should really get out more and stop playing computer games all this information is freely available on the web

Go to Google.com

And use the search facility
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What a judgemental reply!
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There are thouands of sites offering this information, why is asking someone to do a little searching judgemental?

Do you play computer Games?
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Not to crap on the so called judgemental guy but area 51 is an american base which apparently holds the roswell crashed spaceship and a few aliens also the secondary base called s4 is connected to the area 51 base which hold the dead aliens so its not really a landing/ crash site
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I've always been interested in Area 51, but like everyone else, have no clue what really happened at Roswell.
Did a UFO really crash land, it's a very strong possibilty as the goings on were very strange, such as the military changing their story's.
But there's every chance it was just a black operations aircraft out on a test flight that failed.
I personally think that there is something being hidden from the people, but you'd think after all these years, if it was a military craft, they'd have told us by now, as it would no longer be a top tech craft!

Maybe we'll know for sure 1 day!


Peace

Jay
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