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Discussion #194Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 20:47:30
Dear Anal Punisher your going to say the opposite to everything i say because we are arch enemy's.
there could very well be many reason's why they are doing this
if there so advanced whats with all the anal probing?
is it Outer Species Erotica.
The Anal Protector

 

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You just gotta love any message that begins..."Dear Anal Punisher"

Len
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Not Really!
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Discussion #193Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 19:25:43
I am a big believer in the 9/11 conspiracy. Seen plenty of DVDs and programs about it but I just wondered what other people's views were.. ?

Does anyone actually think the US government had involvement in it etc ?

 

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Yes mate 100%. Three words: New World Order. It all ties in.
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Of course the US government wern't involved. They were just too stupid to stop it and ignored all the warnings. But what did you expect with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield and co in charge?

Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed033's Note - Dick Cheney gave the stand down order not to shoot down a plane that was heading towards the Pentagon on 9/11 according to Norman Mineta at the 9/11 hearings - see youtube clip www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y }
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I didn't know that Ed033 mate. I've only been reading this site for a couple of days and am already hooked. Some great posts and links on here, havn't really any opinions just love reading peoples posts, great stuff.

Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed033's Note - Building 7 (Salaman brothers building), the 3rd tower go down on 9/11 is an obvious demolition - www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A
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ED033 THANK YOU I have been saying the exact same thing for years - none of those buildings would collapse because a plane crashes into them - maybe a segments does a Leaning Tower of Pizza act and falls off, but there is no way in HELL one of those towers crumples from the bottom upwards, perfectly, a la demolition stylee, by accident. No way. Has this ever been in the spotlight?

Raz {Ed033's Note - There are loads of 9/11 anomalies such as the much larger than normal PUT Options placed on American Airlines on 9/11. Some of these PUT Options were placed by the Office of the Assistant Director of the CIA allegedly. Youtube clip on this subject - www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd0Vwg6DVPI
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Watch this one Ed:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI&NR=1

Raz {Ed033's Note - OK thanks Raz}
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Discussion #192Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 18:51:01
Food for thought about Facebook.

www.albumoftheday.com/facebook/

Is Mark Zuckerberg a just a pawn? Is his ongoing lawsuit with Harvard seniors over the theft of their idea just a clever ploy to make the whole idea seem more innocent and plausible than it really is?

I have just removed any shred of interests etc from there, or changed them to be complete rubbish.

Raz

 

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Spot on m8. Keep away from NSA data mining when you can.

Len
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Len I have taken everything off there right now mate. The only thing I left on there were my likes because they are all rock bands and metal bands and need support etc and I couldn't care less if they know I like metal haha.
Raz
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Discussion #191Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 17:09:56
hi guys, i'm not much for conspiracies myself but my uncle is very much a "conspiracy nut" so i was aondering if anyone on here could possibly explain why the lines behind airplanes are bad it would be much appreciated. thanx

 

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I don't normally use Wikipedia but this time i believe its what you are looking for- i was interested in this a while back

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

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Discussion #190Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 17:05:37
hi people....i have been following the site for a while and really enjoy it, it got me wondering about the theories behind the moon landings in the 60,s and 70,s, i remember stories were being bandied around that they were staged, some people were saying that the american flag was blowing in the wind, when apparently there is no wind on the moon?...they also claimed that the van allen belt would have prevented a landing at that time. I know there are some very knowledgeable guys who post on here, and wonder if anyone has a view, as to whether or not these things are true?....i look forward to hearing your slant on this issue as it causes a lot of argument between my friends and i bilbo baggins

 

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Hi mate, I don't know a huge amount about this stuff but I am sure others will give you insightful links to things for to check out. I do believe that one set of moon landings was staged as I saw some telling stuff in a video recently. Just wanted to say about the flag -

If the flag pole was vertical (obv it was), it had a horizontal rod going through the top of the flag from pole to end so that the flag remained in an 'open' state. When the flag was stuck in the ground it was undoubtedly creased etc. There is a very small gravity force on the moon, so the flag would slowly have continued to unfurl until it hung flat like a piece of paper. This may have been seen in the video footage. I haven't seen the video footage, but what I can say is that if this did happen and was caught on camera, it would have looked like it was unfurling in slo-mo due to weak gravity not being the same as here. If it was blowing around as though their was a breeze, then it is fake. So if you have seen the footage, bare that in mind.

Peace

Raz
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My GCSE physics teacher explained to me that as there was less gravity on thye moon and the flag was spring loaded, therefore when the flag sprang up there was nothing to stop it moving in. giving the appearance that was "blowing in the wind". hope this helps.
ps my physics teacher was very knowledgable on anything
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We did land on the moon. Once. It's all out there.

The real interesting thing about the moon landing is the masonic connection ie Neil Armstrong with his freaky paraphernalia.

It was a religious thing in my opinion. They went up, payed homage to their god and came back.
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Sorry but what masonic connection?
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Mate we all know we've landed on the moon this is 2011, but it was staged once.
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Discussion #189Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 16:44:43
well if the freakin aliens are coming we need to be ready,stock up on the KY jelly because there will be anal probing GOD DAMN ANAL PROBING PEOPLE,well we will build are own tripods only ours will have four legs.
so i say feck em ET you wont get your stinking glowing finger near me.
The Anal Protector

 

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Discussion #188Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 14:37:54
Sorry, one more thing.
I see a lot of contradictory statements in these conspiracies.

1) Religions are man made by the people ˜in charge™
2) These same people ˜in charge™ want to create a NWO with ONE belief system

Bit contradictory isn™t it?

D-Dot

 

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What point are you trying to make?

I can't figure it out?
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Religion is man made to keep the masses under control

This keeping the masses under control helps the illuminati achieve their goal

Where is the contradiction?

If the masses were not under control and rioting for example it would be much more difficult for the illuminati to achieve their goal?

Again where is the contradiction?

Elaborate please Mate?


You seem a bit confused over the issues?

You are comparing apples with oranges and the result you get is nuts?
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No! My point is why would they create so many different religions as a means of creating ONE in the end?

Why not start out with ONE then they would have achieved their goal ages ago?

D-Dot
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D-DOT - it is a firm belief by those who have done their utmost to explore all religions to their very core beginnings that they did all actually start out as one. What having lots of different 'religions' does it create the potential for each one to be disbelieved - which some feel was one key aim of the illuminati. It is an interesting point. The only religions ever to really have been discredited are the ones that depict a single 'god' - all 'multi-god' religions have just been left to do their own thing because they immediately support the notion that there was never one solitary god.

By creating more than one religion and therefore belief system of who God is, and by having a theory of evolution, the aim converting modern societies to atheism is well under way.

Raz
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I see where you are coming from, especially given the similarities in most religions.

But religions fragment all the time, there's always someone with a different argument.

I suppose different religions tailered to control different area's/ peoples?
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Discussion #187Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 14:32:49
And one more thing. Dont you think that if there is life on other planets, governments are covering up things left, right and center, aliens are living among us, illuminati controls finances, etc etc, WHAT IS THE POINT IN GOING TO WORK and wasting all your time for a measly little wage. All seems rather pointless.

D-Dot

 

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Really?
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Tell us more?
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The aliens are indeed walking among us,
the have infiltrated our governments they are spraying our atmosphere with chemicals (CHEM-TRAILS) to create there own and to kill off us in the process,
they have created a economic crisis so to break the will and hope of the people.
a broken disorganized people is a controllable people.
The Anal Protector
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Just that looking at the bigger picture, all other things dont seem worthwhile.

If everyone truly believed world was ending in 2012 why are you going to spend your last year working?

D-Dot
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A very good point D-DOT. I don't know if people think it is ending in 2012 though... I think that notion was presented years ago and now things have developed a bit, e.g. the Mayan calendar never ended at 2012 which was the main reason people started thinking the world would.

What is said to be happening in 2012 is the creation of Zion. To you and me this means there will be an attempt at establishing a NWO, even if it is the very rough beginnings. What many think is that this will suddenly ahppen overnight like some massive bad event and then boom, big big change. I doubt it will happen like that. There will be a new elected leader in Israel. Then, over the next 10 years expect there to be gradual changes with the way things are done around the world.. the cost of fuel, living, health, new 'medicines', the changes will be gradual and we 'sheeple' will just fall in line. Here and thre will be all this talk of how fantastic the NWO will be and before we know it it will have happened. Electronic money is one example. No hard cash, period. We're talking chipping. I mean come on, we are the human race, if my fortune is memorised in a chip on my arm along with my name address and my life, and every time I go into a shop that information pops up somewhere, then I am OUT.

Raz
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Discussion #186Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 14:27:33
Just a thought “ everyone believes the government are lying to us, and that there is proof of life on other planets and aliens have visited before... but what about if all the ˜quotes™ and ˜sightings™ that people have made are all lies too. Has anyone on here seen an alien or UFO (that could not be explained rationally) with THEIR OWN eyes.
Even what people say is evidence of alien existence in previous civilisations, these people could have had imaginations too you know and simply made stuff up.
Dont forget this is the internet where anyone can write anything about anything they want and fake and doctor any picture they want.
I am not saying that aliens have not visited (personally i think they may have) but I think people are just willing the government to be corrupt to rebel against the power in the world.
One point that the ˜Chris Tamworth™ made was ˜what if this is all there is™. Think about that for a second

D-Dot

 

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Ive seen a ufo with my own eyes a few months bak, had a friend with me wen a wis walking my dog thru the countrysie on a clear summers day, n while pointing out chemtrails a metallic silver object flew almost directly above us, about the height of a 2 story building n appered 2 slow almost 2 a halt, n while we were lookin at it it sort of vanished, although the area were it had been looked a bit fuzzy, leavin me 2 believe it had some sort of cloakin device, n it felt like it wis eavsedroppin on us, as when we mentionted how cool it would b if it disapeared, a few seconds l8r it happenend, although i personally feel this might b some sort of secret government technololgy, and just a week b4 tht happened a good friend of mine seen a ufo on his way home from work in his car, n without him reporting it it still apeare in the local paper the next day, in the exact spot with the same escription, so i hav no reason not 2 believe him
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Hi mate, I regularly consider what if this is all there is, and always end up at the same point - I doubt it is. This may sound daft but that closing scene at the end of Men In black where the camera zooms out and just keeps going, until you are looking at the galaxies from a distance, and then the galaxies are being rolled around like marbles... I love that concept.
Raz
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Raz

Yeah i love the MIB conccept as well the end scene has always stuck in the mind.

My point was basically, no-one knows, i doubt the government (or a power above the government) even know what's out there.

And.. if aliens have landed, what is there to hide? I am trying to think logically what the government/higher power wouldnt want us to know.

D-Dot
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D-Dot i think why they ( the govenment ) would hide the fact of the excistence of aliens is due to the religious belief of millions of people who whole heartedly believe God is the creator and we the people of earth are the only people in the whole universe (stupid i know) which would create yet more religious wars and people looting and going abit nuts

MJ
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Well the Eds will be able to help me out on this but a few decades ago, maybe in the 50s, government officials got together and it was decided that if the public were told the truth about alien landings and sightings, it would be a catastrophe, as mankind as a whole was simply not ready for this knowledge. (Sorry but what arrogant tossers honestly.) So they agreed to a silence at all costs. Instead, society has slowly but surely been drip-fed references to ET life in holywood and the media and sometime soon it may be revealed, and we will be desensitized.

I can't remember the name of that meeting or agreement but it was something like Bloomberg or Bloomsbury or something.

Raz {Ed033's Note - There was the Brookings Report in the 1960's that all the Governments agreed to. }
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Discussion #185Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 13:52:43
Raz i just wanted to ask you about mars. You say that there is proof that there was life on mars. I'm aware of the cydonia anomalies but i thought they'd all been disproved or shown to be trick of the light etc. Unless they doctored the recent photo's of course. Is there something i've missed some other evidence? Anything i should look for in particular? Incidentally on the wider issue its almost a mathmatical certainty of life elsewhere. Mort.

 

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It was discovered a few years ago that there was water on Mars at one point that harboured bacteria. Apologies if I have got that wrong but I read about this about 5 years ago or something. I will see I can dig something out.
Raz {Ed001's Note - wasn't it NASA that made the claim?}
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I am not too sure mate. I have seen that photo of the 'face' and I must admit that is on a hiding to nothing - I have seen clouds that look like fish, an arrow through a hart, aeroplanes, dinosaurs, animals, you name it, and I have seen land formations that resemble faces, people, trees that grow in such weird shapes that they look like a cock and balls..... my point is, I think that 'face' is utterly meaningless. That someone in a documentary or two and a few press releases feels that after whatever research they have done, there was once a small window of opportunity for life to exist on Mars, is far more interesting a think to investigate. I will see what I can find, just popping in and out at the moment.
Raz
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OK cheers, yeah i remember the water thing now.

Mort.
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I just had a look and couldn't really find much after all but I remember specifically about the water thing. {Ed033's Note - Richard Hoagland was showing lots of photos that had tiny dark patches on them and claimed that it was water a few years back. }
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Discussion #184Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 13:33:46
Check this yo:

youtube.com/watch?v=OibqdwHyZxk

Peace

Raz

 

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What do people think?
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Here is one man airing his views on the trailer I linked above... please watch both, would be good to hear what people think.

youtube.com/watch?v=BlRaduHmTVg
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Discussion #183Talk Sense

22 Sep 2011 13:16:50
How about we all give Chris a break and a chance to show a different side?

Comments?

The hidden hand

 

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