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Discussion #134Talk Sense

19 Sep 2011 11:39:16
Just found out something really interesting.
Basically the concept of NWO (ie. what Illuminati is gearing towards) boils down to an eventual war of the bloodlines.

History says that Egyptian Pharaohs migrated to Europe, and then the same bloodline went to America.
Royal incest is of course a historical regular.

It is also stated that Tom Hanks, Celine Dion, and Madonna (among others) are all Illuminati puppets. And of course that all the American presidents are puppets and all that.

Turns out that all the American presidents, including Obama, are all of the same bloodline and are all distant cousins. Cheney: Bush's 9th cousin, once removed. Obama is Cheney's cousin. Obama is also Bush's 11th cousin. Linclon was Bush's 7th cousin, 5 times removed. John Carey - Bush's 9th cousin, twice removed. Keep this going and you see Madonna, Dion and Hanks all in there. All three have played major roles in flaunting the Illuminati one way or another in public- especially Madonna, and maybe most notably Hanks in Angels and Demons.

Wtf!

Raz

 

Raz , do you not think that most people if tracing back a bit can find they are a secound or third cousin to lots of famous names , i dont go along with the bloodline thing , its more rich people and royalitly marry into each others circle , at least thats what i think , i think theres bigger things to look into........lfc
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The Illuminati are an indie rock band out of seattle
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If you trace back far enough ALL Europeans come from the bloodline of Charlmagne, so bloodlines have nothing to do with it.
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All fair points... my aim was to spark conversation. I too considered the same thing, that surely if we all descend from Egyptians then we are all somehow related. I just thought it was interesting. Maybe, if I am to advocate this further, which is fun, I would question the degrees of separation as being a factor. I.e. Madonna, someone in the media with the closest blood link possible to the people of power, also Celine, also Hanks? Compared with, say, Paris Hilton who may be, as an example, the 100th cousin, 5 times removed....

Ultimately this stuff doesn't change my life but it is certainly entertaining to think about it.

Raz
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Let me tell you about the Illuminati:

The illuminati were the bankers to royalty and the popes, Mainly along French blood lines

Around the 15th Century the Illumanati went underground and disappeared as if they didn't exist.

The illumanati are no fools that how they became rich like the A team who hide out in the LA underground the Illumanati jig out in high class society places where you and I would never be

So what you goona do brother when the Illumanati run wild over you?

The hidden hand
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Discussion #133Talk Sense

19 Sep 2011 11:01:51
Anyone read The Secret by Rhonda Byrne?

Raz

 

There is no secret, no illuminati everything that happens is a random act, wink wink
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Move along like good chaps no conspiracy here
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Noel Edmonds swears reading the book turned his life around for the good, my missus loves the book
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Of course women enjoy this book they are more in tune with the universe then men, the hand that rocks the craddle rules the world

The hidden hand
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Sure you know by now that only weak minds believe in such tom foolery as the illuminati, secret societies and people that are out to use others for their own benefit?

Don't you?

The secret its only a bit of fun, soon the secret the board game will be out! Its a bit like snakes and ladders, ludo etc. only electronic


The hidden hand {Ed033's Note - You can buy the Deluxe Illuminati Board Game from amazon - www.amazon.com/Vintage-Sports-Cards-Inc-1305SJG/dp/1556343841
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Discussion #132Talk Sense

19 Sep 2011 08:12:54
stuff planning permission, support the dale farm people , human rights , make the place legal , theres kids in there , theres more to life than rules and regulations...........lfc

 

You Support Slavery?
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What exactly are you saying here lfc?

Raz
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Just they should let the people stay there , its all red tape and because they are poor people , they will get moved on , yet they will build houses for the weathly and councils will give land away for money and to help line their own pockets , as in backhanders from big companys , we should stick up for the poor.........lfc
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Sorry lfc but they should clearly just bog of back to Ireland and take the rest of them with them.

They pay no tax, contribute nothing to the economy and yet expect my hard earned wages to pay for their kids to go to school and hospital, well sorry but this sheep is making a stand baaah!

And have you ever met a poor pikey? {Ed001's Note - at least one of the 'travellers' on the Dale Farm site owns an estate in Ireland. They have had ten years to find somewhere else to live and have refused to accept a single legal decision that has gone against them. I have no sympathy for them whatsoever, if I had illegally built so much as a shed on my land it would get knocked down immediately.}
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Exactly ed001.

Also correct me if i am wrong but the key word here is traveller. they don't seem to be doing much of it do they, camped there for 10 years with all mod cons. {Ed001's Note - exactly. They turned down the offer of perfectly good houses, purely because they say it is against their beliefs to settle down. But then they park their caravans and never move them anyway. Madness. But if you want to live in a country, you should abide by its laws or go somewhere else and that should apply to everyone.}
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Discussion #131Talk Sense

18 Sep 2011 15:01:50
check this link out , has all the cards from the illuminati card game which was made in 1990

www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1753.cfm

Ghandi Floss

 

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Discussion #130Talk Sense

18 Sep 2011 08:10:58
To DON'T BUY THE SUN spot-on post regarding ussr and china and
i agree Ernesto Lynch was shining example to all of us, a bit like Jesus
but real . I was originally going to respond to a post were you jumped
on a 911 piece of mine ,glad i didn't as it seems you're not as arrogant
as first appeared. I appreciate that with some conspiracy theories people
lose sight of the real problem (capitalism) but its a double-edged sword
e.g. some 20-something never read or watched anything other than the
Sun and BBC see's loose change or zeitgeist and atleast becomes a bit
more cautious of mass-media and is as likely to come across Zinn and
Chomsky as Alex Jones or David Icke.
N need to stop posting mate these exchanges of info and views can only be a good thing.
JR
p.s never have or will buy the Sun

 

I don't want DBTS to stop posting either, I just don't want to be told I'm an idiot for flirting with the idea of conspiracy theories. At the end of the day, Capitalism is the source of so many worldy issues, what conspiracy theories ask is the TRUE reason why it exists.

I think some people knew this, but idealism gets you nowhere in this life and that is why some people try and see ways of making change within a system that they know they will never truly be able to transform. I like to hear about these people, about the Marxes, the Guevarras, and to be given the food for thought.

What I dislike is for someone to come along and tell me outright I'm a child or wrong for trying to see things from a different perspective to theirs.

Raz
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I just didn't like the hero worship of Che Guervara, the man was a murderer pure and simple. Communism is just as bad as Fascism, both still lead to a mass grave.
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And capitalism doesn't?
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Well no not really.
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So nobody has died chasing the almighty dollar?

Drugs that are unsafe are still being sold by the truckload each day and capitalism is safe?


Yeah about as safe as playing with a shark in swimming pool, capitalism is rotting to the core and we are witnessing its demise, wake bleeding up for gods sake!
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Discussion #129Talk Sense

18 Sep 2011 07:32:11
Has anyone ever seen a picture of the phil schneider alien called valiant Thor.

Kee {Ed033's Note - Here is an alleged picture of Valiant Thor - www.talkconspiracy.co.uk/ar_3.php }

 

There's a band called Valiant Thor :-)
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Discussion #128Talk Sense

17 Sep 2011 21:27:38
do people not think that theres maybe every cure for most illness in natrual food and plants etc , its not that all modern medince is bad , its just theres no big money in it for the drug compains in stuff people can get for themselfs , and its interesting that only a 100 or so years ago the modern medical people and doctors where called quacks and now its the other way round with the nautral medince people called quacks , the thing i have noticed is modern drugs treat the systoms but dont cure much while natual stuff cures more, interesting.........lfc

 

LFC the whole medical profession is a joke.... manufacture and illness and sell the cure is a very very old concept and I do not believe for one second that people's health is truly the priority, if it was there would be no additives in food by LAW.

Raz
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The medical profession is designed for two things

1. To Make the Elites Rich

2. To Limit the explosive growth of the Elites human Stock

Look at the growth in opoulation over the lst 100 years its frightening the elites, they want to cull the herd.

A few years ago America offically had its 300M person born there were no celebrations, 30 years previous the population of america was approx 200M
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Discussion #127Talk Sense

17 Sep 2011 16:57:01
Belief systems are a funny old thing and are based largely on how we were brought up and what we choose to believe from our interaction with other people.

Perception is everything!

The beliefs that we hold subconsciously are essential to our survival and if we can't overcome this problem which is very difficult to achieve we'll reject a lot of new ideas.

Or we have a vested interest based on certain "facts".

What is fact? What is the truth? There are many "facts" that are just plain BS
So the truth is influenced by our beliefs as to which facts are the true facts.

How many people past the age of 2 accept new discoveries? Example: Einstein discovered splitting the Atom as a "fact" of physics which was already there as an undiscovered "fact" before Einstein studied and explored it.

There are non more blind than those who Cannot See and many people right's brain are shut down through pharmaceutical drugs and our contaiminated food supply!

People can't except Conspiracy theories as its shakes the foundations of all they hold true.


Its hard to accept that the world you live in is largely a lie and that church and state constantly mis inform you!

 

Exactly my friend :)
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Rubbish, most conspiracy theories are just that "theories", made up by someone who has been screwed over, and then trying to either save face or cause as much discomfort for the person(s) that screwed them.
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Say What?

Your brain has obviously being melted by the chemical cocktails of the illuminati!

Being screwd over has nothing to do with conspiracies mate!
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Obviously you sir are easily led, by some of the stories put out there by people trying to do just that. Lead people to believe that there is some higher power trying to run everyones life, take control of your own and dont read too much in to what others would have you believe.
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That is exactly what a god is mate. You can't bash someone on here for believing in the Illuminati and then go and pray, that is as hypocritical as it gets!
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Discussion #126Talk Sense

17 Sep 2011 16:44:50
report by the Financial Times has claimed a group of pharmaceutical companies has paid doctors in the US almost $150m so far during 2011.

Prepared in conjunction with the data provider, PharmaShine, the figures show the money was paid by pharmaceutical firms, including Eli Lilly, AstraZeneca (AZ) and Pfizer, for doctors' travel and entertainment expenses as well as education and consultancy fees.

Of those companies who have released data, Lilly is reported to have paid $48m and Pfizer to have paid $42m.

AZ, who recently launched a database containing payments made to doctors and institutions, said $24.7m was paid out in associated compensation for the second quarter of 2011, with $8.1m going to individual physicians and $16.6m going to institutions.

In a post on the company's AZ Health Connections blog, US compliance officer, Marie Martino, gave reason as to why the company was releasing its data.

She said: "AstraZeneca believes it is important to be open about how we conduct our business, and this new reporting expands on a major initiative announced three years ago to provide greater public visibility into how we do business."

Around 165,000 doctors have received related payments in 2011 so far, compared to 262,000 doctors who received payment in 2010.

The report comes at a time when US government agencies are preparing guidelines to make the publication of industry support for medical professionals compulsory by 2013.

This is part of ongoing US healthcare reforms as an attempt to allow better, more consistent understanding of the pharmaceutical industry's relationship with healthcare professionals in the US.

In the UK, the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry (ABPI) changed its code of practice at the beginning of 2011 to help increase transparency of working practices between the pharmaceutical industry and healthcare professionals to help increase trust.

Companies will have to declare payments to healthcare professionals for services including speaker fees, advisory boards and consultancy, and sponsorship for attendance at meetings on an annual basis. The first declaration will be made in 2013 for payments made in 2012.

 

The drug Comapnies which the Illuminati own are well and truly Evil and they have no qualms on preying on the sick - just how perverted can they get? {Ed033's Note - Well the FDA, who probably work for the drug companies are planning to remove 50% of the supplements from the shelves in america. The drug companies also appear to want to vaccinate children with 100 vaccines before they leave school.}
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Don't start me off on the FDA they are the most corrupt organization in the world.

I would proabably be banned from posting if I start on the FDA so I won't go there as much as I am tempted!
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Big Pharma made billions out the bird and swine flu epedemics. Governments were forced to buy up as much vaccine as possible. Much of that now stockpiled in hospitals and chemists throughout the world. And what for in the first place? These flu strains were no more deadly than normal season flu, in fact, no where near as deadly. When the next manufactured mutation the flu comes along, the current vaccines will be of no use and Big Pharma will once again be ready to cash in.

Paragon
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Exactly Paragon

The swing flu was created in a lab of the illuminati

Most countries were told they needed two vaccines for every citizen

And the vaccines sent to the czech republic were found to be contaminated

As the flu virus changes each year the stock piled vaccines are now useless

Who pays for the Vaccines the Tax Payer or rather the slaves of the illuminati
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Discussion #125Talk Sense

17 Sep 2011 16:32:38
Hi there,

It's me, I have many names, the whore of babylon, the Devil, Satan, The Dark Lord, etc.

I want to put the record straight, I am not a bad guy!

Some books talk about me as if I were terrible, this is simply not true!

Hey, I am not perfect but who is?

So I like to do a little skullduggery now and again who doesn't?

So I have a pitchfork and a big red fire so do many farmers?

I have a sense of humour and I not really real?

That's the message I am trying to get out there!

 

So tell me, how does this sell your soul stuff work? Is there any cool off period, minimum contract, multi person deal? Do you have PPI as recession must be hitting you a bit too? so you can understand i don't want to get caught out should i enter into any contract with you.

Rev. Paragon
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Discussion #124Talk Sense

17 Sep 2011 11:57:09
ed033 not a conspiracy but i saw a comment of urs stating " the sun conjuncts with the galactic equator of the milky way". could u explain this a little more please? thanks in advance. {Ed033's Note - The precession of the Equinoxes is recognised by "scientists" as being 25,900 years. This is the number of years it takes for the sun to go around the 12 zodiac constellations. However as a side note, these "scientists" who believe this number are now perplexed because this precession appears to be speeding up and they don't know why. But the reason for the speeding up of the precession is because this solar system is most likely a binary star system and when the other sun starts to approach this solar system, the forces between the 2 stars causes our solar system to speed up it's journey around the 12 zodiac constellations. So the number of years maybe closer to 24,000 years. So the starting place for this precessional year count is where the sun lines up directly with the centre of the Milky Way galaxy i.e the sun conjuncts with the galactic equator. Apparently on 21 December 2012 the sun will end this precessional cycle and start again, like it has done for billions of years. Some people refer to this as the Mayan long count. So all 21 december 2011 is, is that the sun has completed another cycle through the zodiac constellations and going to start a new cycle around the 12 zodiac constellations. Or at least that is the way I see it at the moment but as I learn more, I may change my mind as we all do.

 

Could this cause us problems like natural disasters and stuff or will just happen without us noticing?
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{Ed033's note - There have been natural disasters going on for billions of years. We maybe in a quiet period at the moment but we still get a natural disaster or 2 each year typically in one one country or another and it would be highly unlikely if there wasn't a natural disaster or 2 in a couple of countries in 2012. If you're talking about a global disaster that affects everyone on planet earth in 2012 then it is possible as in the past we appear to have global natural disasters but for anyone to say because we have had global disasters in the past then on 21 december 2012 then there will be a natural disaster seems ridiculous to me. But if someone says sometime in the future but don't know when there maybe a global natural disaster then I would agree. }
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Discussion #123Talk Sense

17 Sep 2011 11:56:54
Anyone read "war is a racket" by ex US marine, general smedley d butler? Very interesting, and from someone with first hand experience.
Link below.

www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm
JQuan

 

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