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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 20:01
Having read it, sure sounds like the old TV program the Time Tunnel. With some 2012 propoganda thrown in.
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 19:48
An old man from a stressful job (even if he was mad) had a heart attack. No conspiracy.

Doubt it will change much in N.Korea.
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 19:48
Franky it was the miners that started off the '74 strike, all the other unions did back them and it caused the collapse of the Heath govt. in 1984 the miners tried to repeat the trick and do it again, this time the other unions did not stand with the NUM.

Many working men ended up massively in debt through that strike. Where was union solidarity then? They backed the '74 strike cos they did very well out of it. In '84 they left the miners to face Thatchers crackdown. Crack police riot units bused in to smash into working guys twice there age, but the other unions did nowt to assist, barely even helping wives and young kids out in a time of need.

I come from an (extinct) mining family.

I agree there has to be balance, but i get the feeling that a lot of the modern union big wigs couldn't give a toss for the members, their too isolated away from the rank and file with their massive salaries and big houses, they've become what they once fought against, o the irony. They just want to stick it too the Tories but don't realise they have no support. They claim it was some sort of success to have 2 million out on the streets. It did nothing for them, look at how some of them have been back tracking in recent weeks.

Don't get me wrong i like France, but they always kick off over the wrong things, they've had it soft for 40 years and now its a crisis they can't cope, as usual.
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 19:23
A few good points you have made,there has to be a balance,the unions has no power today that is why the private sector can do what they want and the working class have to take it,as for your miners still being in debt, thats my whole point about the french, what ever beef they had with there goverment they ALL backed each other, so if we were like that back in the late 70 when the miners went on strike everyone would have backed them, interesting you mentioned miners , we inport our coal even thou we have the resources here,as for the french i like there spirit, our country had it once, frankyscouse
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 19:23
No reason why it wouldn't fall out in water, firstly when an animal is in the water for a long period it will bloat therefore the pores holding the hair will expand meaning hair falls out (anyone who has ever seen a floating corpse will see this).

Als Sloths do have unusual hair, not only does it grow differently to most mammals it also contains it's own ecosystem as it is home to two symbitoic cyanobacteria, who knows how differently that would react, and even may have attracted fish who could have fed of the bacteria.
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 19:01
Well one less loon in the world. Maybe now the north koreans have a chance.
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 18:39
If I may, countries like Britain, America and France are all stable democracies. I can't really see us or the French ever using them. Even Russia is more stable than previously under the Communists.

Then you have places like Pakistan which are very unstable, North Korea which is becoming unstable and Iran which is ran by a loon. So a far more scary prospect is unstable countries having technology like that.

I'm against nuclear weapons per se and i think its the responsibility of the current nulcear powers to stop the spread. Russia and China should get on board help get rid of them in these other states and then once thats done start on the path of getting rid of their own!
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 18:39
I don't know either franky but please stop giving them ideas especially taxing oxygen i for one hope they have not already seen this as i fear they will be voting it in as i type I just wonder how they would implement the tax against animals and plants. lol
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 18:39
I never clicked disagree but i will have a go.

Basically striking never achieves anything it only costs you support. The last major successful strike in this country was the 1974 general strike which toppled the Heath govt and in the end that only caused the downfall of the unions as it helped the rise of Thatcher. When the NUM tried to repeat '74 by coming out in 1984 they had an enemy who was far tougher than Heath and she used to to break the unions. Its taken the unions 30 years to recover and there's only the public sector ones left. The over 50's fat cats that run these public sector unions remember the glory days and all they care about is getting revenge on the Tories for the 80's and trying to give Cameron a bloody nose. They will fail because like '84 they don't have widespread support, if anything they have less than they did in '84. Incidentally mnay families of the striking miners from the '84 strike are still in debt to this day.

Onto your example of France. Do you think constantly being on strike has achieved anything in France? By allowing people to retire in the early to mid 50's they have pushed up the welfare state budget massively over the years and now they cannot cope with it. This is why France is starting to creak. This is why Sarkozy wants to raise the retirement age because he knows they can't afford it. But the barricades will soon be out and they'll be on strike, maybe even win concessions and France's debts will carry on going up. So yeah the Fench have had their fun out of striking but never considered the long term consquences and now the chickens are coming home to roost because Socialists can never do long term sums.
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 18:39
The only way you are going to be able to write of religion is if aliens come down and literally say "right earthlings your our test tube babies" Religion is a massive money spinner

MJ
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 16:31
Because often it's the famous people that die young who are the rebellious ones that don't follow the dogmas of the Illuminati.
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 16:31
True, Icke isn't the wisest, but he's right. Think about it, Rocafella records... who runs America REALLY? Families such as the Rockerfellas who own the banks. It costs America (and Britain) more money to make money than they money is worth simply because it is sold to the banks from the families. Years ago America was sold to families such as the Rockerfells who now use mainstream media to influence us, and in a the very near future, the Euro will collapse, America will announce the Amero as a new currency with Canada and Mexico, and before we know it that will fail. Then, the one world currency. Everything is a tool to attack the subconcious, music being a key tool and unless people really begin to see that, we're in big trouble.
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 16:31
The media will never cover it as much as they should though because the mdeia is controlled.
Columbia is key to everything.
CBS (Columbia Tri Star)
America's money printed where? Columbia
America will make a large discovery in the near future about our history, and disprove religion as we know it. This disvoery will probably be made my archaeologists in Columbia, and this will be FAKE!
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 10:52
To the people who disagreed with my last point, iwould like to know why you don't agree. Frankyscouse
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 09:56
So why is it ok for us (uk) and USA to have nuclear weapons, but when someone else does, it's an atrocity and we must intervene?
Getting more ridiculous as each day passes!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow
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Reply · · 19 Dec 2011 08:42
Pac already said he didnt believe in the illuminati and the killuminati s**t really meant for everybody to shut up with the illuminati talk and hes killing it
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Reply · · 18 Dec 2011 21:56
I wasn't suggesting that Iran was innocent but do you think that they would have better ways off getting the material in. I just thought maybe they were making it public so when they started attacks they could have a good excuse for doing so

Halewood Red
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Reply · · 18 Dec 2011 21:40
Ed, that was why I quoted revelation.It says devil/ancient serpent/satan- whether you believe or not. There is no spin in it. You believe anyone believing in the bible is part of "gullible masses"- clearly you are of a differing opinion, you will need to SPIN a little more to get out of that one. I can t prove it, as much as you can disprove it................does not mean it is lies though. {Ed001's Note - I never said anyone believing it was part of the gullible masses, though I do think you have to be desperate to believe in something to take any notice of it. What I said was that it was written for the gullible masses, to take control of them in yet another way. Kings invented patriotism when religion wasn't enough to get the people to do as they were told, now they have the terrorism threat to control us. Religion is just one of those methods of controlling people's thinking, in my opinion. Anyone who feels the bible is worthwhile, should spend some time studying older religious texts, the Epic of Gilgamesh etc. Then see if you still hold the same beliefs when you can see the stories in their original forms. Those same pagan beliefs that christians sneer at, are the origin of the religious beliefs enshrined in the bible.}
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Reply · · 18 Dec 2011 21:26
Ed, behave now. You are making things up. You should get a job in the celtic propaganda team. Please try not to be so hypocritical though, you mention "abusing anyone who disagrees with you", while calling people "gullible masses" for having a differing opinion to yourself. FYI, I am not "saying it is not totally true". We will disagree on it then. Good night this time, looks like gers game on last- its a bloody conspiracy so it is. {Ed001's Note - 'just remember that everything is not literal in the bible.' It was you who said that, which is saying that it is not totally true, or are you going to spin that as well? You know to try and make it sound like I am putting a spin on your words as you have been so far. I never once said that it was people with a differing opinion to me that are the gullible masses. But you keep up the lies, it goes hand in hand with religion and fanaticism and always has.}
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Reply · · 18 Dec 2011 21:14
Ed, read back your initial reply today, I would say it was you jumping to conclusions.
How can you say I am fanatical? Do you know me? It is your opinion after all, good luck to you. But prove it is a MYTH, thats all I ask. You can t, so we shall just leave it at that. {Ed001's Note - I am sorry, but I gave an opinion based on your actions. You act like a fanatic, abusing anyone who disagrees with you and refusing to accept anything that is not within your belief frame. Why should I prove it is a myth? You yourself are saying it is not totally true and can't be taken on face value, which says that it is not factual. You are admitting it all yourself.}
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