The above quote is from wikipedia lol
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Ed33 how safe would this Birobidjan place have been given that at the time Russia was the most anti-Semitic country in Europe and had already carried out several Pogroms?
The Covenant thing, well depends on how religious you are, but certainly many Jews do believe it and it founds most of their claim. How do you disprove something like that in legal terms?
As for the British role, well you have to look at the influence of certain prominent Jewish banker families especially given as by 1917 the war was having a massive effect on the treasury as not only were we paying for own war effort we were also susbidising a large chunk of the Fench, Italian and Russian war efforts and aslo had lost a lot of rpe war trade due to the fact we were fighting one of our largest trading partners.
So i think there was a certain amount of horse trading with a certain group of bankers and that was their price.
{Ed033's Note - I don't know. I was adding to the conversation. Obviously it's too late now and obviously the ruling class did what they did for their own reasons.}
Read discussionThe Covenant thing, well depends on how religious you are, but certainly many Jews do believe it and it founds most of their claim. How do you disprove something like that in legal terms?
As for the British role, well you have to look at the influence of certain prominent Jewish banker families especially given as by 1917 the war was having a massive effect on the treasury as not only were we paying for own war effort we were also susbidising a large chunk of the Fench, Italian and Russian war efforts and aslo had lost a lot of rpe war trade due to the fact we were fighting one of our largest trading partners.
So i think there was a certain amount of horse trading with a certain group of bankers and that was their price.
{Ed033's Note - I don't know. I was adding to the conversation. Obviously it's too late now and obviously the ruling class did what they did for their own reasons.}
Or maybe people should research things themselves:
"In 1947, the British government announced it would withdraw from the Mandate of Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews. The newly created United Nations approved the Partition Plan for Palestine (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on 29 November 1947, which sought to divide the country into two states”one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was designated to be an international city”a corpus separatum”administered by the UN.
The Jewish community accepted the plan, but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee of Palestine rejected it. On 1 December 1947, the Arab Higher Committee proclaimed a three-day strike, and Arab bands began attacking Jewish targets. The Jews were initially on the defensive as civil war broke out, but gradually moved onto the offensive."
Read discussion"In 1947, the British government announced it would withdraw from the Mandate of Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews. The newly created United Nations approved the Partition Plan for Palestine (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on 29 November 1947, which sought to divide the country into two states”one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was designated to be an international city”a corpus separatum”administered by the UN.
The Jewish community accepted the plan, but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee of Palestine rejected it. On 1 December 1947, the Arab Higher Committee proclaimed a three-day strike, and Arab bands began attacking Jewish targets. The Jews were initially on the defensive as civil war broke out, but gradually moved onto the offensive."
{Ed033's Note - One of the questions is did Britain have the right to take a part of the middle east that was allegedly "occupied" by "Arab" peoples and give it to someone else to create Israel even when there was another place that was assigned for Jewish people to go called Birobidjan?
The answer maybe whether the alleged covenant with "god" is real
Read discussionThe answer maybe whether the alleged covenant with "god" is real
{Ed033's Note - The Balfour Declaration of 1917 allegedly started the ball rolling for the creation of Israel. But at the time there was already a place in Russia the size of Switzerland called Birobidjan that was set up to be the Jewish homeland.}
Read discussion{Ed033's note - One of the problems is the alleged covenant with "god". A covenant is a contract that can't be broken.}
Read discussionThe mainstream media say stuff and people just believe it without questioning it such as that the Palestinians started it
Read discussionI read somewhere that isreal control America???
Azza
{Ed033's Note - It's possibly more like the City of London, Crown Corporation control Israel and USA.}
Read discussionAzza
{Ed033's Note - It's possibly more like the City of London, Crown Corporation control Israel and USA.}
The full name of the Order is Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon.The Templars were rumoured to have found either the Holy Grail or the Ark of the Covenant at their home in Jerusalem. They were also said to have been in possession of a piece of the 'True Cross', which was captured by Saladin.
They were bankers for the rich including Kings, Popes and statesmen all over Europe and Middle East. Some degrees in freemasonry relate to them they are the 12th and 13th degrees (the rites of Knight Templar and Royal Arch of Solomon) so with that connection you could argue that there might also be one to the Illuminati.
Daz
Read discussionThey were bankers for the rich including Kings, Popes and statesmen all over Europe and Middle East. Some degrees in freemasonry relate to them they are the 12th and 13th degrees (the rites of Knight Templar and Royal Arch of Solomon) so with that connection you could argue that there might also be one to the Illuminati.
Daz
Good reply ed, some people dont have a clue
Read discussionThey're for real - not too long ago, a body was found of one I beleive, looked like a bigger version of a domestic cat with quite a strange face/head. That's all I can remember, it's probably the odd dangerous pet that's mated with domestic or feral cats to form a new mutation or new species.
RED_SKY {Ed001's Note - in Australia, domestic cats go feral and grow to over twice the normal size of a house cat. It is perfectly possible it could have happened here.}
Read discussionRED_SKY {Ed001's Note - in Australia, domestic cats go feral and grow to over twice the normal size of a house cat. It is perfectly possible it could have happened here.}
Look at the way israel treat palestines and then you will know why there hated
Read discussionAs regards the 'germans hating them'..this was of course because Hitler needed a group to blame for germany's ills and so he picked on jews..Convinces the people the jews are responsible for their woes (when in fact it was the settlement forced on them after the first world war) and he has his bandwagon. As
regards muslims- don't they hate anyone who isn't a muslim? certainly seems that way
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Read discussionregards muslims- don't they hate anyone who isn't a muslim? certainly seems that way
Puzzled
{Ed033's Note - A number of big cats were released since the Dangerous Animals Act was passed in 1976. If they paired up then obviously they can multiply and still be around in UK.}
Read discussion{Ed033's Note - Haarp = weather manipulation, mind control and make changes in the space above Earth allegedly See above youtube documentary.}
Read discussion{Ed033's Note - Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: H.A.A.R.P. (FULL LENGTH) - www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTvik184IMs
Read discussionLooks like a chinese lantern Franky.
KT!
Read discussionKT!
I despair the direction the UK's energy policy is moving towards green energy. Costly, unsightly, inefficient. There's still huge coal reserves in this country, which have been left, to spite the miners. Importing eastern european coal. Disgrace.
The Real KB {Ed001's Note - killed one of the biggest industries in our country as well, put many of us out of a job who only worked indirectly for the mining industry.}
Read discussionThe Real KB {Ed001's Note - killed one of the biggest industries in our country as well, put many of us out of a job who only worked indirectly for the mining industry.}
If that is the case ed, why is the current 'science' so ineffectually challenged ?
One would expect, with the massive financial resources at the disposal of the oil producing countries / companies, that they could have had a greater influence on information being fed to the public.
Or is this a conspiracy in itself, to keep oil prices higher than they should be ?
The Real KB {Ed001's Note - you answered your own question mate, it is all about the price of oil. After all, we don't even have to buy that crude oil stuff at all, it is perfectly possible to refine oil from crops grown in the UK ie rapeseed, that could be used to power motor vehicles.}
Read discussionOne would expect, with the massive financial resources at the disposal of the oil producing countries / companies, that they could have had a greater influence on information being fed to the public.
Or is this a conspiracy in itself, to keep oil prices higher than they should be ?
The Real KB {Ed001's Note - you answered your own question mate, it is all about the price of oil. After all, we don't even have to buy that crude oil stuff at all, it is perfectly possible to refine oil from crops grown in the UK ie rapeseed, that could be used to power motor vehicles.}
Is there a plot line to Eastenders?
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