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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 20:06
You're right Chris, it does. But the Sumerians were the 1st ( defo one of the 1st ) to speak of it. Also the story of the arc is in the clay tablets, only with different names as it's clear, the story of Noah was stolen from ancient Sumeria.

Like I said before, in order for you to put a valid point across, actually look into the Sumerians, their knowledge of the stars, their civilisations and their gods, the Anunnaki.

Don't be frightened simply because you don't understand, or that it makes what you believe, not seem so real.

Peace

Jay

Ps. I get the feeling that you like to shut all over peoples theory's and prob get a little kick from doing so. As I believe this to be true, tell me what YOU BELIEVE Chris? Where do you believe our human origins to come from. And you still haven't explained how the Sumerians knew of all the planets, thousands of years before we discovered Pluto. So I'd like you to explain how they knew this, as you seem to have the answer to everything! {Ed001's Note - what was the name of that tribe in Africa who were discovered in the Victorian era and had knowledge of astronomy that surpassed the level of the time despite being a very primitive tribe? Was it Dogon? Only they claimed it was given to them in the past and they just passed the info down through the generations.}
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 19:54
Yes 001, it occurs in too many legends too spread around to be anything other than true.
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 19:32
Jay the story of the flood exists in many cultures not just middle eastern. It also i believe crops up in many native american tribal legends. {Ed001's Note - I expect that is because it is almost certainly true, all the archaeological evidence points to it really having happened.}
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 19:22
Chris

Yes they were Gods, well believed to be by the Sumerians, who were an extremely advanced civilisation.
To say simple minded is a bit harsh. Put it this way mate, how would you have described people coming from the sky with technology that you had no understanding of? Because they must have witnessed these things, as how do you describe something that you've never seen before? You can't, so something in their story is true!
Thing is, places that they spoke about are still in existence today. Eeden for example. The tomb of Inanna/Ishtar.
These people were also almost mass producing texts with clay scrolls. So for you to say simple minded, is very small minded my friend.
The tower of babel is of Anunnaki origin, as is the story of the flood, which was hijacked by the Christian bible.
You see mate, for you to give a FAIR argument, do some research, and I'll be more than happy to debate on this subject with you.

Ps. That doesn't mean watch a few vids on YouTube to make up your mind, as there's a lot of disinfo out there for both sides of the argument.

Peace

Jay
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 19:16
Or more to the point maybe ancient scholars created the concepts of super beinsg they called gods to communicate quite technical stuff to people that didn't have the understanding. kind of like biblical parables etc
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 19:16
Youtube.com/watch?v=Sq_QWWZaynw&feature=related
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 19:01
I don't know where people are getting the reptile thing from, it certainly has nothing to do with the Anunnaki anyway!

Glad I cleared that up, Its annoying when people take a perfectly plausible theory, then add on to it to satisfy their own theory. It's kinda like disinfo, and discredits the original theory.

So in a nutshell THE ANUNNAKI ARE NOT REPTILES.

Peace

Jay
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 19:01
I thought the anunnaki were a group of gods? In the same way that the Greek gods were immortal deities. In other words imaginary beings that simple people believed in because they didn't know any better.

Chris in Tamworth
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 19:01
Youtube.com/watch?v=2rrelv96nCQ&feature=related
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 19:01
To me, Nibiru is very real, but yeah, the web is full of disinfo about it. So I can understand why people think it doesn't exist.
If anyone wants proper stuff to research on Nibiru, then I'd suggest checking out zecharia sitchin, he translated the Sumerian clay tablets which speak of Nibiru and the Anunnaki!
What's worth noting (you'll see this on YouTube) is that the Sumerians knew of all the planets in our solar system, as well as Nibiru. The strange thing about this, is that we didn't discover Pluto till the 1900's. So how did the Sumerians know of all planets, including Nibiru way back anywhere between 5000 to 7000 years ago?
Where they told about the planets? Did they have an advanced technology lost in time?
It's Anyones guess, but it's fascinating!

Peace

Jay
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 19:01
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 18:34
Thanks for the clarification mate, it was getting a bit confusing. Although some do say reptiles.
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 18:29
End of the day lads there is far too much weird stuff that goes on that cannot be explained.

There is stuff i don't believe or am sceptical on, but then there is stuff i do believe. I just come on here to see what everyone else is saying and maybe learn a few things.
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 18:29
Russia has many such places


And what about the devastion that took place in siberia where a huge expanse of land was cleared

Was it an astroid
An atomic bomb
or an alien spacecraft landing

The damage in the area was "out of this world"
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 18:29
Its all very well just saying go off and search google but sometimes its handy to maybe give a nudge in the right direction.

I mean just typing area 51 into google must bring up 1000's of links. some very good and some not so good.
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 17:45
Area 51 has the Alien that the autopsy was carried out on

Many pictures are available of this alien

Also this area was used to develop fighter planes during the cold war and people who worked here could not even tell their spouses where they worked or what they worked on

Nothing much more than that is known

People who worked in Area 51 have claimed not much went on there with the exception of the above

That judgemental guy {Ed033's Note - Obviously Area 51 is just 1 of many bases where black technology/reverse engineering of ET technology is experimented with in America alone but these type of secret bases are all over the world. Another famous place is Pine Gap in Australia.}
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 17:38
The hidden hand, your ok in my book and what you say is 100% correct i salute you.

MJ
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 17:38
HAARP is very real and dangerous piece of tech, can't remember what it stands for, but you can find out on the web. Eg Google

It's believed to have been used in a lot of recent natural disasters, but who knows.

Like HAARP, project blue beam is another interesting project, believed to have produced the supposed sighting of virgin Mary in Africa ( check YouTube ) and the Norway vortex.
The Norway vortex is one of the best covered happenings in recent times, though we were told it was a rocket! Lol
If you haven't seen it, check it out and you can't help but to agree, that sure asks f*** ain't no rocket. Sadly though, no one knows what it really is!

Peace

Jay {Ed033's Note - Virgin mary in the sun/sky video - www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhfqNlvEZtQ }
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 17:10
I see your point of view mate

but not everybody will believe in what you believe

Not everybody believes in what I believe and that's okay

Rather than getting into an argument which usually cannot be won as the other person digs in deeper the more the argument goes on to continue the argument is futile

You hare a couple of options

1. You can ignore what others say

2. you can engage with them in a non hostile way and see there point of view and them introduce them to your point of view

When you do this very often they ignore you

3. you can go all guns blazing into an argument

4. Maybe there are other options too

The more you become secure in your self the less the opinions of others matter, what matters is that which is important to you

I happen to agree with a lot of what you are saying, I too have seen strange things not aliens that cannot be explained and your opinion is just as valid as mine or Chris or anyone elses

It takes the bigger man to walk away from confrontation and sometimes its the best thing to do!

In General people may twist what you say or read what you have posted and take a different meaning because posts are short this is bound to happen on occasion

Sometimes you need to fight your corner but not everytime

If you think this is BS that's okay mate

The hidden hand
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Reply · · 21 Sep 2011 17:10
Not to crap on the so called judgemental guy but area 51 is an american base which apparently holds the roswell crashed spaceship and a few aliens also the secondary base called s4 is connected to the area 51 base which hold the dead aliens so its not really a landing/ crash site
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