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Why don't you Raz, what's stopping you?

What we don't understand always goes beyond belief by definition

If we believed all the strange things that happen it would not be unbelievable

P.s. I agree with Mike you cannot fix a world cup event. It just so happens France were the best in the world then.
Raz

What a load of rubbish! Fix the world cup? Not possible. Fun site Ed, though I enjoy things like this, some to goes beyond belief. Great crack tho.
Mike

What the feck? That is crazy. I love stuff like this. If anyone has any more stories like this please do divulge. I may even tell you some about myself - they are perhaps slightly weirder than this so it would be a big leap of faith for me to tell you some shiz that goes on with me but I may just do that.
Raz

Haha yes Len. I have to say though he doesn't think he's a troll, he's just ridiculously anal but worse, not nice with it.
Raz

This is where I stand Len, I have my beliefs but or standpoints but they are always open to change.
Raz

Sorry guys just woke up, let me make my brew and then I will address this post with respect. I will do my best to briefly highlight the sort of comments that you throw around by trade Chris in Tamworth, which, judging by the first 2 lines I red, you have used so often you perhaps don't even realise. Brb. Note I am not looking to get anyone banned or anything but I will make my point very clear in a moment.
Raz

My view was that there are many conspiracy theories which I have opinions on that I feel are much more important than what I consider to be ramblings about aliens and gods. I am not telling anyone that I am right only what I believe and you Ed are being hugely selective if you can't see that everybody who has argued with me is doing exactly what you have criticised me for namely saying I must be wrong and ridiculed and insulted because I don't agree with their point if view. I'm not trying to stir any s**t I'm trying to cut through it. Surely one of the main cornerstones of a site like this is debate? Well you aren't going to get any debate if everybody thinks the same way. Still, I've been told I'm not welcome so I suppose I should just take notice and stop coming on here

Chris in Tamworth {Ed001's Note - nobody has been saying your beliefs are wrong at all, so stop lying to try and make it sound like you are being hard done by. You are the only one trying to cut out the debate by shouting down anyone who says something other than you and by trying to claim everything you see is a fact.}

Chris

If you do not believe in god thats okay no one here was trying to convert you!

However when anyone said there is a god you say they have a simple mind some people find that insulting to me its makes no difference but you do not consider other people points of view.

Your view is that there is no god so we should all except there is no god based on your opinion?

Once anyone mentions god all that they have posted is BS, do you think that is the right way to go?

Maybe for you it is, but is their a better way of handling it?

I personally don't believe in aliens however I have asked others why they believe in them? I am open to the possibility of Aliens but the evidence so far is not enough for me to believe

Do you see what's wrong?

Here's one for you mate!

I was building a house in an area I have no connections too it was in a forrest!

At the end of the house build with not much left to do just painting, carpentry, and a bit of tiling, the workers left their tools on the left hand side of the living room as you walk in the door, (no one had keys to the house except me) the next day when we arrived on site and I opened up the house the tools were on the other side of the room?

2 of the 5 workers refused to work in the house?

What happened?

We later discoved that some people were killed had work related accidents working on other housing estates in this small development!

The hidden hand

Cheers Raz. I appreciate your comments! Will try and keep all quotes topical in future!

JQuan

Chris from Tamworth:
The Ed is right mate, I don't believe in God therefore I don't visit Religious forums and shoot down the viewpoints / discussions being had there.

You're a s**t-stirrer mate, get a life - if you don't believe in conspiracy theories, go hang out on a forum that interests you.

RED_SKY

I mentioned project bluebeam a week or so ago and no one seemed interested. have a carefull read about it, very odd.......there is something happening......IT COULD BE A HOLOGRAM....??

matty b

Ed001 you are a disgrace my replies were not full of snide remarks and digs or nasty comments any harsher than those used against me in posts that you happily put up. My point of view has been consistent that I don't believe aliens have visited the earth and I don't believe in god and I think anyone who does is wrong, just as all the believers think I am wrong. I don't hear them agreeing with me that I could be right. The other posters replies to me have been much more personal than my own posts but you are happy to put them up. You need to re-read all that has been posted by all parties then you will see you have been misguided in singling me out for criticism

Chris in Tamworth {Ed001's Note - rubbish. Your posts are snide and overbearing. Other people have tried to have a discussion with you and all you do is shout them down. You don't take in anyone else's point of view, you just sit their typing your close minded views and refusing to take anything in from other people. I fail to understand why you are even on here, you have no interest in talking about it, just about telling us all how you are right and, unless we believe the same as you, we are all wrong. You would be far better off writing a blog or something, because you clearly have no interest in what other people have to say and just want to tell us all what you know.}

Some good points there m8. I will add this though...DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.

It's quicker and has the same effect.

Len

Thjere is no God because Chris has not been introduced to him end of story!

Chris who has probably never left Tamworth.

Jay I don't know why but I feel compelled to answer your questions too haha.

1) I believe in the theory of evolution, however I find the concept of something creating everything that led to this planet being able to evolve very interesting. I find the concept of us being such a minute part of a grander scheme very exciting. I also find it really interesting that there is a theory that one main aim of the Illuminati was to make society believe there is not a God, and that the Theory of Evolution was their biggest weapon in this aim. What marvellous theory! True? Who knows!

2) I don't know, but unlike someone from a crap town, I think this is one of the most exciting things to investigate. Chances are they just figured some stuff out like we did but in terms of their star alignment with buildings etc there is clearly a lot of mystery there and it is really interesting to read.
3) That is a good question - and that bloke from that crap town gave a pretty good reason. I don't find it hard to say that because I'm not a dick.
4) I am interested in loads of conspiracies. What I am also interested in is that while there are endless posts and responses regarding the Illuminati, staged UFO landings, potential 'weaponisation' of the moon, motives for 'terrorist' attacks, Diana's death, and general chat to do with conspiring governments etc etc, that bloke from that crap town is NOWHERE to be seen. Then, when the chat deviates to things such as how we got here, ETs and alien technology, which that bloke from that town may not have realised yet actually has a lot to do with Governments after all, that bloke whose name we all know who is in or from that crap town is suddenly all over everybody like a rash and issuing forth pure sanctimony such as 'this site seems to have forgotten about these minor irritations and instead wants to focus on complete bloody fruitcake'. Very interesting. My dad had selective hearing but selective reading... this is new to me.

Raz, certainly not from or in Tamworth.

Jay I am going to check this out.
Raz