01 Mar 2020 18:46:41 Well it is outer space Ed. There are particles all over the place in space, these are usually what's left of the proto-planetary disc on a microscopic scale to a city sized asteroid scale. Everything else either coalesced into planets, asteroids, moons etc. Some also got trapped in gravity wells of planets and burned up. It's still happening today too, you ever seen a shooting star? Well that's a small space rock burning up as it enters the Earths atmosphere.
It's also worth mentioning, if this footage were recorded in 4k, we wouldn't be having this discussion because you would see the particles more clearly. Unfortunately the camera technology in 1996 wasn't that great.
01 Mar 2020 09:31:42 Most people can't look at the evidence because if they do and realise the moon landings were faked, then they will inevitably have to ask what else have we been lied to about?
Ask people why did Neil Armstrong hide in an office in Cincinatti University for 7 years after he 'came back'?
He was the most famous man in the world.
The answer is because he was a decent guy and he was ashamed of taking part in The biggest lie of the 20th century.
29 Feb 2020 22:08:33 *some subtext from videos I post.
Whatever the slant of whatever video, it aggravates me that people feel the need to mock the other side. It just takes weight out of the debate. You believe what you believe. Too be shamed for that in any shape or form is subhuman.
I have never said I was right. I will be happily proven wrong.
Prove me wrong on the videos I post. I encourage it.
01 Mar 2020 06:03:29 I've slowly been going through all the videos on here the last few weeks, really interesting but I'm still open minded both ways, however even when I was a kid looking out of a plane window I knew the window caused the outside view to look curved, I'm not sure how people can't figure that one out.
29 Feb 2020 19:44:22 Good vid ed33, And I've never even thought about temperature swings tyre and batteries. Lol rian and SM your right, the danger of the mission would give u a total different attitude towards the mission. Think I seen a vid a few years back on here that showed stage lights falling to the floor.
And also someone pointed out how shadows of Astro not's where wrong . Surely most must be questioning space agencies now!
29 Feb 2020 18:00:13 Don't worry, Ed. They're in a nice warm studio.
Rian, I am not sure if they were posted on here, but there are videos showing Astronauts floating back to there feet after falling over. (Basically them struggling with the wire harness, or it was the harness operators first day. ) .
You have to remember though, that these are the best of the best and they don't need to concentrate or care about what they are doing. Much like the lunar launch on Apollo 15 when all they are worried about is playing some music on a tape player, to celebrate how great the US is. It's not like if one minuscule thing goes wrong, they are all dead hundreds of thousands of miles from Earth.
Something I've seen here and also on much so called lunar footage is that the astronauts frequently kneel down and not with any care.
If you were on the moon and even the tiniest breach of your suit could result in your death, there is no way you would be kneeling on a rocky surface.
Just for added value if you look at the way they move around, it looks a lot like they are trying to find the surface with their feet as opposed to bouncing up from it. exactly what you would do if you were on a wire.
28 Feb 2020 18:50:48 Was strange to find this as the first post, as I watched a different video on old maps, this morning. This lead me to Urbano Monte's map of 1587. Its width is 10 feet. It's in Italian but can be translated.
"Monte made his map to serve not only as a geographical tool but also to show climate, customs, length of day, distances within regions - in other words, to create a universal scientific planisphere. "
The question with the OP video is, why make a map with Islands and towns if they are not actually there?
Do you happen to know the context of this map, as in why it was made and who commissioned it? .
From thinking across topics like chronology changes, hidden past etc. It does seem to point to some big changes in the I600s. And isn't this the time that the printing press became a thing? . I'll have to check but sure the first printed book was the 'Gutenberg Bible'. Thought that is probably debatable.
27 Feb 2020 22:45:01 Forgive me, I wasn't calling you crazy moreso the idea. I'm not often interested in debates because it's just 2 people trying to make the other believe their view. However, I shall watch how much of the videos you've shared I can bare, before my science knowledge shakes its head at it.
You should read astrophysics for people in a hurry, by Neil degrasse Tyson. He has a chapter called 'on being round' and it very adaquetly explains it I believe.
1. how have you came to the conclusion we shouldn't see objects in the distance? That does not make sense to me unless I'm misunderstanding you.
2. The Sun is 400 times bigger than the moon, yet 400 times further away from the earth than the moon. This is maybe why the moon and sun look the same size. The reason the sun's luminosity is much higher is due to the amount of energy the sun has. It's literally a burning ball of energy while the moon is a chunk of the earth orbiting us.
3. If outer space is being faked, then Elon Musk is wasting a lot of time on his company space x. I have nothing else to say on this, as I could also say the star Sirius doesn't exist, although we can see it.
4. Why can't you have that?
Just to be clear, do you think other planets are flat as well or only earth?
28 Feb 2020 07:20:12 Standard. I can only speak for myself but it's not a case of believing that the Earth is flat. (And I don't believe anyone on this site has said space doesn't 'exist'. It just doesn't in the form of mainstream perception. )
It is more a case of NASA faking space and the fact there is no photos of the Earth that haven't been run through the 'Blue Marble' framework (basically photoshopping) where they layer 2d images across a globe model.
NASA even sent a 'satellite' into 'space' just to take photos of the Earth. Yet on closer examination, they are still using the 'Blue Marble' 3d model to run the images through. Now why is that? Why not just take a picture and show us the raw image. Why are they altering the image? for what purpose?
NASA also faked the Moon missions. If you care to take the time on these pages you will find the NASA footage they didn't want you to see.
The question of the flat Earth becomes a possibility because of these things.
Then to add weight you have the Antarctic Treaty. You can not go beyond 60 degrees south latitude without permission from higher powers. And then It would be impossible to explore because of the limitations.
The say it is 'pure' down there. But I have seen uninhabited island/ lands strewn with crap from the western world. How does this not get to Antarctica? . I assume all climatic airflow also circumvent this part of our world, as there is no pollution down there?
Basically things just don't add up. I have just posted a video on the 'dogma' of science as we know it. How they make us believe things are fact when it true reality they are no better than unproven theories with no one bit of proof to back it up.
Gravity is something that is also brought up with the flat Earth model. But gravity has a serious flaw. And to cover up this flaw mainstream science has created 'dark matter' and 'dark energy' to patch the glaring holes in this flaw. That's 96% of our supposed Universe. So they have a theory that is 96% incorrect.
Things like this go unnoticed when people just believe what they are told. If you want a serious career in the sciences, you dare not question the dogmatic truth.
I could go on, but I feel my words fall on deaf ears.
hsf · 01 Mar 2020 19:21
