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03 Feb 2020 14:17:12
Ask away if there’s anything specific you want to know my position on SM.

Sorry, but I had to debunk the planes not moving video!

03 Feb 2020 12:01:38
That's fine SM, we all have our bad days.

I won't deny there are cover ups a plenty in the world, but I personally just don't see the Moon landing being one of them. The major holes in the mainstream view of the Moon landing can all be explained. But a lot of the things that can't be explained, don't really hold enough weight to say "it was faked". That's just my personal view of course.

The VA belts are interesting, Mr. VA himself did indeed say that it would be impossible to sustain life in these belts, but that quote was actually cherry picked. The entire statement is referring to a 2 year manned mission in the VA belt, to which he said it's impossible. He has never said it's impossible to pass through them, just it's impossible to sustain life in the belts. He also publicly denounced the conspiracies about the VA belts killing the astronauts.
Here is a link to an e-mail conversation with James van Allen himself, talking about the belts.
forum.cosmoquest.org/archive/index.php/t-3885.html

The thing with radiation it's all about the length of time spent within an irradiated area. A good example is Chernobyl, you can drive through Chernobyl in a car wearing shorts and t-shirt, without developing any issues due to radiation exposure.

Me personally, I'm looking for anything to show signs of Alien life. So things like HD 101065 (Przybylski's Star), which is a star that has plutonium with in it's spectrum, are fascinating to me. Same with KIC 8462852 (Tabby's star), which had strange dimming patterns and the mainstream media went into a frenzy, claiming it was a dyson sphere.

As much as I find some conspiracies entertaining, I just find the stuff I listed in the previous paragraph far more interesting.

03 Feb 2020 11:03:40
Rian, I'm just interested in the other side of the fence's views, why they believe in them and what would they do if they are wrong. There is nothing narrow minded about that, I'm not looking to try and prove people wrong. Maybe I'm wrong but I figured narrow minded views were ones which fail to acknowledge the concept of there being a different answer/ view/ theory etc?

SM.

1). No.

2). None.

3). Misinterpretations. I think there are a lot of stories from holy books that are very similar to one another, from different time periods and different parts of the world. I personally think that the majority of stories may well be true, but I think a lot can be explained by things like asteroid or comet impacts and extra-solar phenomenen.

For example, approximately 13,000 years ago a comet impacted Greenland. This caused mass flooding on several continents, caused the whole of north america to set fire and almost ended human life on the planet. It's estimated that we may have gone down to as little as 100,000 in population globally!

4). Of course.

5). I'm not going to lie, it would take quite a bit to convince me that God is real. Simply because of how Gods are depicted in the different cultures. So for this I would say I need to see God do something from one of the holy books, like part the sea or bring something that's been dead for 3 days back to life.
There are things which would make me more open to the idea, seeing some genuine paranormal activity like a ghost that just randomly throws my quilt off my bed, would definitely make me think twice.

6). If God came to me and parted the sea before my eyes as an example of proof, my next step would be to ask what I need to do in life. Then whatever was said to me would be exactly what I'd do. I mean I'd have no choice really.
But if it was proven that God isn't real and what I believe in also turned out to be false, then I'd just wait for evidence to point me in the right direction.

03 Feb 2020 10:21:06
On one of the vids either Ed033 or SM posted recently there is a reference to a laser test successfully being done in the early sixties by both the US and the Russians. Who put the mirrors up for that test? Or is it the science that is flawed?

If it comes from NASA, it’s propaganda. Next you’ll be quoting Neil de Grasse Tyson.

03 Feb 2020 07:14:26
Thanks Ed. Really fascinated by this subject, not heard evidence as portrayed by D. Paulidses before. Maybe because its suppressed?

I would like to get some of his books, but they are quite pricey.

I am always on the look out for high value info books though, on the cheap. Just got blacks law 7th edition delivered for £6 so happy with that. Only problem is now I am studying legalese and Fomenko, at the same time as all this other stuff. TBH, loving it! . Mind for filled.

02 Feb 2020 21:24:17
What are your answers to these questions you write, hsf?

1. I believe there are things at play that are beyond my comprehension and if I say anymore it will be pure conjecture. I guess I believe in seeking the truth.

2. conjecture

3. Not a direct answer but there seems to be similar concepts in all religions the main one I think of is the 'Great Flood'. I'm of the belief antediluvian history is being hidden from us all. I can only assume hiding anything has an evil purpose and it is controlling information which creates a lack of trust.

4. I will happily admit I am wrong when shown to be so. As I have previously stated. I seek the truth.

5. The truth, if against my opinion, would prove me wrong.
The only person to have supposedly met God in mortal form is Enoch. Maybe read his book. Although it is non-canonical. (Why is that? )

6. I always except and humbly turn to the truth.

02 Feb 2020 19:00:01
Look, hsf. Firstly I want to apologise for a comment made below somewhere. "it's not like i was expecting to actually learn anything from hsf. ".

I am still bitter from a conversation with an 'engineer' that said my thoughts are worthless, for he has been trained. I am sure you understand why? (still no excuse)

This has however flowed into our conversation and turned me in to some what of a hypocrite and for that I am sorry. Although we may disagree on things, this does not subtract from the value of your opinion.

OK, now that's out there. By personal experience I mean have you learnt any of this first hand, through your own experiences or are you excepting what you are told? . I know with the above questions this would be hard, I was generalising really.

You remember when Ed ask if we wanted the Space/ Astro page? . I was as excited as you about space and the new missions and all the amazement they find. (planet size diamonds, a possible Dyson sphere, vampire stars etc etc) .

I have always struggled believing the Moon landings and Apollo missions, there was a lot of stuff I had seen that suggested the possibility of it being fake. Then Ed mention or rather posted a video by Bart Sibrel showing NASA and the Apollo astronauts faking being half way to the Moon. And this fake shot is the same as the picture of the Earth from the Moon. It was used in textbooks etc and its fake. Why fake it when you have been to the Moon? . You just wouldn't fake it.

NASA and other space agencies have launched countless equipment in to space to the outer planets that they could have used to take a full view picture of the Earth. But they haven't. They have photoshopped 2d data over a globe model and then make it look pretty. Why? .

Then we have the whole Van Allen belt problem, which NASA still hasn't figured out how to get a human past it. All except the Apollo crews, that is. Probably because 1960's bacofoil had some very peculiar properties, especially when it comes to deflecting solar radiation and comic rays.

I am not even sure we have got a craft of any sort past the VA belts if I am honest, so that put's everything in the 'space' category in to question. Things that reinforce this logic is when MS science women ( I forget her name) start putting out videos saying "the air around the Earth is millions of degrees hot, and that's fact".

I eave it at that for now as this, is turning out to be an essay and i don't want to delete it out of this tiny box, which I have done before.

P. S. Please don't think 1960's bacofoil has any special properties. This was sarcasm. :)

02 Feb 2020 21:19:35
You said wrong 4 times HSF. How can anyone even begin to consider the the concept of God within such a rigid and narrow mindset? You have such a black and white view of the world it’s a wonder you even bother to come on here.

02 Feb 2020 12:16:49
I prefer to call it educating myself rather than being spoon fed. I didn't learn this at school or college, I took the time to research it all myself because I'm an enormous nerd at heart. I use a combination of my own logic and the evidence that's put in front of me to decide whether I think it's true or not. I don't just blindly follow whatever NASA or which ever governing body is in charge says.

I don't know what you mean by "personal experience". I can only assume it's a rhetorical or sarcastic question, as clearly I'm not an astronaut and I'm not old enough to have witnessed the creation of the universe, obviously.

Also I know nothing of Polonium 218, I did quickly look up what you were referring too, but didn't find anything to answer your question. I will have a look a bit later and see if I can come up with anything that might explain it.

02 Feb 2020 07:49:57
They will just say. " Back then, there was no atmosphere to burn off the water" as they park the Delorean out back.

02 Feb 2020 07:57:35
"10). Yes, Earth was more or less a molton ball of rock during its early stages, it took a billion or so years for it to cool down enough to form a crust over the mantle"

A very definitive answer, hsf. So can you explain why there are polonium 218 halos frozen inside of the granite? As polonium 218 isotopes only have a half life of 3 minutes. If granite took 'billions or so years for it to cool' they simple would not be there.

01 Feb 2020 22:41:25
Yeah. it's not like i was expecting to actually learn anything from hsf. I have the power to regurgitate too.

01 Feb 2020 22:56:25
The fact that people argue religiously about 'scientific' facts they have been told, boggles the mind.

hsf.

if a million people said/ believe one thing.

and one person said/ believes in another.

Who is right?


hsf.
There is no right answer to this. It just depends on who is right. But surely the people with control are right?! .

Are you catching my drift now? or will a wet fish never wake you?

01 Feb 2020 22:39:10
hsf. You very well 'educated'. Have you any personal experiences on these matters? or is it all spoon fed?

01 Feb 2020 18:07:01
I know nothing of lasers so I couldn't comment on that.

It's actually publicly available where the locations are. It's the landing sites for Apollo 11, 14 and 15. As well as Luna 17 and 21.



And the reason we can't do it from home, is because lasers that powerful are not available for commercial use. As I said earlier, I know nothing of lasers but I did find this reddit post from someone who worked on the APOLLO (observatory, not the rockets) project.

He explains why we can't do it from home.

01 Feb 2020 17:48:53
OK, fair point, but I think you missed mine? . I basically meant that, the people who have control over everything get to choose what the answers are, regardless of whether they are right or wrong (in the greater picture) .

The thing is, you have to dig around, out of the MS slant on things, to find out these facts about Churchill and Hitler. And if you dig deeper enough you actually start to piece together the truth and not the MS 'spin'.

I guess I tried and failed to compact what I was thinking, into the original OP, so people would understand. It appeared obvious to me, but you more than likely think in a different way. So wouldn't be so clear.

01 Feb 2020 17:33:34
At this point in time I am pretty sure you will only get conjecture as answers for all these questions.

They only thing that I can say is fact, is how they try to figure out where the water came from.

They use a deuterium/ hydrogen isotopic ratio. Water from comets have 3 times the ratio of Earths water, which is why they think it came from the asteroids which have a similar ratio to that of Earths.

Every theory for these questions would be so hard to prove or even disprove. Make's me think of that quote from Tesla.

01 Feb 2020 17:45:32
These are all fair questions Ed. Some of them likely don't have definitive answers as of yet.

1). The water would likely vapourise on impact yes, however Earths gravity would stop the gas phase water from leaving our planet and it would end up being stored in the atmosphere. Over millions of years the planet would be showered with intense rains, eventually forming oceans.
Water can also be stored in the mantle on a molecular level, so not all of the it would be vapourised on impact, but instead forced into and absorbed by the mantle.

2). Supernova. During a stars life time it's core is fusing atoms to create new atoms, the older the star the heavier the atoms being fused. In the beginning, the stars will fuse atoms to create light elements such as hydrogen and helium, toward the stars end, it will be creating heavy elements such as Iron and Gold. When the stars core has "filled up" so to speak, it succumbs to it's gravity and goes supernova. This releases all of the fused atoms out into space at 99% the speed of light and creates giant nebulae that span light years across. It's within these nebulae that everything is formed. Stars, asteroids, planets, comets and moons.

3). Lots, that's the only way to put it. The standard model suggests that during the "proto" phase of the solar system, every single planet that formed was finding it's correct orbital path in relation to other planets. During this time the Oort cloud and Kuiper Belt were disturbed by huge gravitational forces like Jupiter and Neptune, this caused large volumes of comets to come inward towards the Sun.
Using the Moon as evidence (based on crator impacts), it's thought that we were hit with thousands of comets in a few million years.

4). The comets stopped bombarding us once the orbital paths of the gas giants were settled. The best way to explain this is to show you a simulation of a solar system formation.
This video is from the California Academy of Sciences, and shows how we believe solar systems are formed.
youtube.com/watch?v=yXq1i3HlumA

5). Can be explained via the solar system formation simulation above.

6). Inside a Stars core. See #2

7). I've not looked into the Theia hypothesis too much, but I did read that it was thought to be an ocean world. So that could mean it formed in a Hydrogen and Oxygen rich area of a solar system. As those are the two atoms needed to make water.
However, that would just be using my own logic as I haven't looked into it.

8). Yes, some of it would. The Earth used to have rings around it, much like Saturn did, and we still do have a very, very faint ring around us. This was caused by the collision between Earth and Theia, with large amounts of rock, ice and mantle being ejected into space, then coalescing in our orbit due to gravity and forming the Moon. Which by the way has large deposits of water ice, as well as an iron core.
Samples of Moon rock taken from the Moon showed that the composition of the Moon is almost identical to Earth, which means it must have been a part of Earth at some point.

9). Large amounts of it would have been vaporised. But it's an enormous body of water that's bound to a rocky planet estimated to be between Mars and Venus in size.
Comets are an example of water making it through the atmosphere and they are much smaller in size.

10). Yes, Earth was more or less a molton ball of rock during its early stages, it took a billion or so years for it to cool down enough to form a crust over the mantle.
Funnily enough, it's thought that the first moment life could appear on the planet, it did. Which bodes well for people who believe we're not alone in the universe.

11). Yes, but Theia was obliterated on impact and Earth is a bigger volume of mass, so has stronger gravity.

12). I'm not sure if I'm understanding the question properly, is this a follow on question to #11? If so, then it being obliterated would explain why it couldn't hold it's water.

01 Feb 2020 16:23:19
You can spin that kind of arguement any way you want. Here is a good example of doing it.

Who would you rather vote for to run the country? An alcoholic who is prone to domestic abuse, as well as smoking 60 a day.
Or a vegan who loves animals and doesn't drink or smoke?

If you picked the 2nd one, well congrats you picked Hitler over Churchill. In these kind of things you have to list everything, you can't just cherry pick one good thing from the "woke" side and then list 10 bad things for the mainstream view. That's called confirmation bias.

01 Feb 2020 16:24:56
Yes.
Because we have mirrors up there that we bounce lasers off, so we can accurately measure the distance between the Earth and the Moon. These were planted into the Moon on the very first Moon landing.