09 Feb 2020 22:41:09
To me its a seductive argument because I would have to only go on facts I can not test myself.
And the sextant alignment adds weight. I have never seen a 'debunking' video on sextants.
Too ill to process ATM.
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09 Feb 2020 22:07:21
Two squeezed nature grown lemons into a 1.5 litre bottle of water.
Natural local honey in hot drinks.
Don't think old 'schooled', think old 'native'.
I am pretty sure every cure has been derived from a natural element (and then synthesised) .
All the answers are in nature, 'they' just don't want Us to see that.
Read discussionTwo squeezed nature grown lemons into a 1.5 litre bottle of water.
Natural local honey in hot drinks.
Don't think old 'schooled', think old 'native'.
I am pretty sure every cure has been derived from a natural element (and then synthesised) .
All the answers are in nature, 'they' just don't want Us to see that.
09 Feb 2020 20:45:05
Just watched some PAD stuff. Seems to all come back to the perspective thing? Which to me, makes sense.
I won't start a new post because it links in with your OP.

The solar orbiter mission is set to launch soon. But it still looks like they are using paper, tinfoil, plastic and the famous lunar plastic orange tape.
Read discussionJust watched some PAD stuff. Seems to all come back to the perspective thing? Which to me, makes sense.
I won't start a new post because it links in with your OP.

The solar orbiter mission is set to launch soon. But it still looks like they are using paper, tinfoil, plastic and the famous lunar plastic orange tape.
09 Feb 2020 20:36:41
I got the flu jab for the first time last October, for reasons other than to (supposedly) protect myself.
It was the same day (just after I arrived home) that you posted about the full genetic sequence of cancer having been reportedly found inside the vaccine.
Made me feel a bit sick, so I skipped that post.
But here I am suffering from what I can only describe as 'flu' (coronavirus? ) reading reports that there is a link between 2019-nCoV and HIV-1 which is "unlikely to be fortuitous" and I agree it's very scary.
The fact countries own patents to things like 'SARS' etc makes it even more worrying.
This IMHO is a weaponised viral attack/ training exercise. I just don't know how many sides there are to the elite coin, so it is hard to figure out the agenda/ targets.
Maybe just China targeting the old and frail as they haven't the people to cope with the care.
Countries are just make believe borders in the elite world?
(my head is full of flu so not on full capacity. hope this makes sense? )
Read discussionI got the flu jab for the first time last October, for reasons other than to (supposedly) protect myself.
It was the same day (just after I arrived home) that you posted about the full genetic sequence of cancer having been reportedly found inside the vaccine.
Made me feel a bit sick, so I skipped that post.
But here I am suffering from what I can only describe as 'flu' (coronavirus? ) reading reports that there is a link between 2019-nCoV and HIV-1 which is "unlikely to be fortuitous" and I agree it's very scary.
The fact countries own patents to things like 'SARS' etc makes it even more worrying.
This IMHO is a weaponised viral attack/ training exercise. I just don't know how many sides there are to the elite coin, so it is hard to figure out the agenda/ targets.
Maybe just China targeting the old and frail as they haven't the people to cope with the care.
Countries are just make believe borders in the elite world?
(my head is full of flu so not on full capacity. hope this makes sense? )
09 Feb 2020 20:49:54
Maybe you are seeing things differently to me as I didn't see triangles.
More like spoke lines around a circle, a bit like a bicycle wheel.
Not sure why they would represent data that way? and sure doesn't look natural.
Read discussionMaybe you are seeing things differently to me as I didn't see triangles.
More like spoke lines around a circle, a bit like a bicycle wheel.
Not sure why they would represent data that way? and sure doesn't look natural.
09 Feb 2020 14:30:27
Very scary.
Read discussionVery scary.
09 Feb 2020 13:44:18
I thought this was Photoshopped so I went to the site where the radar images comes from, to find the original footage.
I couldn't find that but I did notice, on live radar feed, there was something like these patterns occurring over Valencia.
really doesn't look natural, but there maybe an explanation for it.
Read discussionI thought this was Photoshopped so I went to the site where the radar images comes from, to find the original footage.
I couldn't find that but I did notice, on live radar feed, there was something like these patterns occurring over Valencia.
really doesn't look natural, but there maybe an explanation for it.
09 Feb 2020 13:40:06
My first thoughts on this was how to go about measuring the distance Our eyes are limited too.
Then I realised that we don't actually see across any distances at all. It, is the light from the object we are looking at, that travels the distance. We just process the light data. Poor eyesight corrupts this data.
So you would need to know the limits of light travelling through the aether to know how far we can see.
Read discussionMy first thoughts on this was how to go about measuring the distance Our eyes are limited too.
Then I realised that we don't actually see across any distances at all. It, is the light from the object we are looking at, that travels the distance. We just process the light data. Poor eyesight corrupts this data.
So you would need to know the limits of light travelling through the aether to know how far we can see.
08 Feb 2020 22:22:55
I believe so, Ed.
Was that just to get the Russians to try? . I don't know. I don't think so.
The interesting thing is pretty much the only thing Russia and the rest of the World are in alignment with is space and the antarctic treaty.
Now why is that?
Read discussionI believe so, Ed.
Was that just to get the Russians to try? . I don't know. I don't think so.
The interesting thing is pretty much the only thing Russia and the rest of the World are in alignment with is space and the antarctic treaty.
Now why is that?
08 Feb 2020 22:10:08
I don't believe we have reached the Moon, Ed. I just want to make that clear. I am just trying to find proof that no one can deny.
I mentioned this before about the clouds in front of the Moon, from ones perspective, are more brightly lit. There is a 'theory' which has taken weight in the mainstream, called 'Mie scattering'.
This is just a theory, though. So, again it is a choice of what you believe. I have questioned a lot of late, what I believe.
This is one thing that I have noticed over the last few months, is that I have taken theories as fact. Because they are accepted in the mainstream.
That doesn't make them the truth. It just means they are accepted as such. And almost forced upon us.
As for luminaries being plasma. Is plasma not in a state of flux? which would make it hard to define a stationary surface? .
There is a debate. If you have two sextants at a measurable distance apart. A measurement from both calculates that the Sun has a 32 mile diameter and is 3000 miles away.
Now I bet Ernest Shackleton would say that a sextant is pretty reliable.
I do not know measurements for the Moon, but I guess that it would be similar.
Read discussionI don't believe we have reached the Moon, Ed. I just want to make that clear. I am just trying to find proof that no one can deny.
I mentioned this before about the clouds in front of the Moon, from ones perspective, are more brightly lit. There is a 'theory' which has taken weight in the mainstream, called 'Mie scattering'.
This is just a theory, though. So, again it is a choice of what you believe. I have questioned a lot of late, what I believe.
This is one thing that I have noticed over the last few months, is that I have taken theories as fact. Because they are accepted in the mainstream.
That doesn't make them the truth. It just means they are accepted as such. And almost forced upon us.
As for luminaries being plasma. Is plasma not in a state of flux? which would make it hard to define a stationary surface? .
There is a debate. If you have two sextants at a measurable distance apart. A measurement from both calculates that the Sun has a 32 mile diameter and is 3000 miles away.
Now I bet Ernest Shackleton would say that a sextant is pretty reliable.
I do not know measurements for the Moon, but I guess that it would be similar.
08 Feb 2020 22:18:30
Haha. But the thing is, Rian. They do not appear deformities of the human race as we know it. Their proportions are beautifully aligned with their size.
Does this mean that they must be a separate race? . A race of giants? Maybe the last dying genetic threads of an ancient race that once ruled this realm? .
Read discussionHaha. But the thing is, Rian. They do not appear deformities of the human race as we know it. Their proportions are beautifully aligned with their size.
Does this mean that they must be a separate race? . A race of giants? Maybe the last dying genetic threads of an ancient race that once ruled this realm? .
07 Feb 2020 15:27:58
That picture is serious clickbait SM!
Read discussionThat picture is serious clickbait SM!
07 Feb 2020 01:44:13
Orange juice aside (I need to look into that) I have seen many NASA videos, where the physics of what they have told us about the MOON, just don't add up.
The footage of the astronaut asking for his colleague to push down on his (space) helmet, is a prime example. There are many more.
I have not heard the knocking sounds video before, though. Could that be added, FakeFX? . (again i need to look in to this) .
Why is the rum always empty? .
Oh.
Read discussionOrange juice aside (I need to look into that) I have seen many NASA videos, where the physics of what they have told us about the MOON, just don't add up.
The footage of the astronaut asking for his colleague to push down on his (space) helmet, is a prime example. There are many more.
I have not heard the knocking sounds video before, though. Could that be added, FakeFX? . (again i need to look in to this) .
Why is the rum always empty? .
Oh.
06 Feb 2020 23:54:20
I’m not really sure what you think you are seeing then? Throughout the month we see the moon go through different phases until full moon. If the video is saying there is only half a moon then where does the rest of it suddenly appear from and disappear to during the month. We see a small crescent all the way to a full moon, and the video doesn’t address that or make any explanation for just saying there’s only half a moon.
Read discussionI’m not really sure what you think you are seeing then? Throughout the month we see the moon go through different phases until full moon. If the video is saying there is only half a moon then where does the rest of it suddenly appear from and disappear to during the month. We see a small crescent all the way to a full moon, and the video doesn’t address that or make any explanation for just saying there’s only half a moon.
07 Feb 2020 02:18:36
Rhetorically.
The hotspot 'brighter' part:
Is that just what we could think because of the 'Mr Blue Marble' effects on the 3D version of a 2D scan?
Is that effect because of water or atmosphere on the Earth? . We are told the Moon has none. (Maybe a little water, but let's not be pedantic :) ) . So therefor no hotspot?
NASA has Moon dust. Why is the Moon so luminous/ reflective? . Has NASA run tests? I know they say its spiky/ sharp as hell. Isn't it what, apparently caused the 'Jade Rabbit 2' or rather 'Yutu 2' to malfunction? .
Why is there no proof of the reflectiveness of lunar rock. It looks dull to me. Maybe i need to put the images in Photoshop and flip the polarity? . (Ah, that's better)
These are questions I am asking myself as much as anyone because that's where the truth lies. (see what I did there? ) .
Read discussionRhetorically.
The hotspot 'brighter' part:
Is that just what we could think because of the 'Mr Blue Marble' effects on the 3D version of a 2D scan?
Is that effect because of water or atmosphere on the Earth? . We are told the Moon has none. (Maybe a little water, but let's not be pedantic :) ) . So therefor no hotspot?
NASA has Moon dust. Why is the Moon so luminous/ reflective? . Has NASA run tests? I know they say its spiky/ sharp as hell. Isn't it what, apparently caused the 'Jade Rabbit 2' or rather 'Yutu 2' to malfunction? .
Why is there no proof of the reflectiveness of lunar rock. It looks dull to me. Maybe i need to put the images in Photoshop and flip the polarity? . (Ah, that's better)
These are questions I am asking myself as much as anyone because that's where the truth lies. (see what I did there? ) .
06 Feb 2020 22:22:29
The part of the Moon that is lit is too uniform, we should see a brighter part lit and a dimmer part lit.
Read discussionThe part of the Moon that is lit is too uniform, we should see a brighter part lit and a dimmer part lit.
06 Feb 2020 20:26:11
hsf. You do realise a theory is just that. A theory.
A theory, whether supported by the MS or not, is still a theory and not truth. Believing in that would be no different than believing in a God, that you so brashly dismiss.
And how do you know how old the pyramids are? . 5000 years? Isn't this too, a theory? .
And if you don't understand what is to be gained by the elite who control the MSBS, there is no hope for you, my friend. These are not the pages you are looking for.
Read discussionhsf. You do realise a theory is just that. A theory.
A theory, whether supported by the MS or not, is still a theory and not truth. Believing in that would be no different than believing in a God, that you so brashly dismiss.
And how do you know how old the pyramids are? . 5000 years? Isn't this too, a theory? .
And if you don't understand what is to be gained by the elite who control the MSBS, there is no hope for you, my friend. These are not the pages you are looking for.
06 Feb 2020 07:57:20
I don't just jump in with FE theory, Rian. I like to warm people up with what brought me to think about it. Moon hoax, flaws in macro-evolution, possibilities of proof of instant creation and the mainstream hiding, ignoring or ridiculing these facts with non-proof answers.
Then, once you got their attention. BANG, hit 'em with FE theory haha.
Read discussionI don't just jump in with FE theory, Rian. I like to warm people up with what brought me to think about it. Moon hoax, flaws in macro-evolution, possibilities of proof of instant creation and the mainstream hiding, ignoring or ridiculing these facts with non-proof answers.
Then, once you got their attention. BANG, hit 'em with FE theory haha.
06 Feb 2020 07:35:31
The Earth is mostly covered in the most unreflective substance known to humankind. Water. So no sunlight would get reflected from the Earth to the Moon.
Oh, hang on wait.
Read discussionThe Earth is mostly covered in the most unreflective substance known to humankind. Water. So no sunlight would get reflected from the Earth to the Moon.
Oh, hang on wait.
06 Feb 2020 07:41:33
It is strange how common folk like farmers and the working class find giant humanoid-like skeletons. And then, schooled 'archaeologists' find dinosaurs.
Back in the day there was hundreds of articles of finding giants, in 'news' papers. Now with just get the propaganda sheets we don't see these anymore.
I seem to remember you posting about a red giant in Iraq, Ed. Found by a few US soldiers in the recent Iraq war. I am recalling that right? .
Interesting subject that leads nicely into the 'fallen Titan' subject.
Read discussionIt is strange how common folk like farmers and the working class find giant humanoid-like skeletons. And then, schooled 'archaeologists' find dinosaurs.
Back in the day there was hundreds of articles of finding giants, in 'news' papers. Now with just get the propaganda sheets we don't see these anymore.
I seem to remember you posting about a red giant in Iraq, Ed. Found by a few US soldiers in the recent Iraq war. I am recalling that right? .
Interesting subject that leads nicely into the 'fallen Titan' subject.