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24 Nov 2016 23:12:45
if that was the only strange fact about 9/ 11 then you would have a very strong point but as you know there are a number of strange incidents revolving around 9/ 11

towers turn to dust

terrorist passport found unmarked

BBC and CNN, announced the destruction of WTC 7 long before it happened.

bin laden family allowed to fly out of the usa

the pentagon cameras not working also the most secure area allowing a so called plane/ missile

i could go on mate and you prob know all this anyway, but like I said to many things do not add up not just melting steel theory that makes 9/ 11 the biggest tv screened snuff movie .

24 Nov 2016 21:46:53
It's a difficult one frankly . Once previous so called conspiracys get debunked then people will naturally question reality and anything is thrn possible. I wouldn't put anything past the powers that be. But I also can't accept the alternative theorys in the 9/ 11 stuff. I wouldn't put it past them but there are 100's of alternate versions only 1 if any of them can be right! But at the end of the day they are just theory's. I've seen videos where so called steel engineers say that this couldn't happen and this would happen!

But who are these people I don't know them or their credentials so why would I believe them. I've worked with plenty of steel engineers and people with 30+ years in construction and demolition who I know and know their credentials who have all said that the way the towers fell is very normal in their professional opinion.

So who do you believe! like I say I'd put nothing past anyone in power but I'd never say I know that it was definitely dodge until hard evidence comes out and like frankly pointed out above the truth sometimes comes out. There are loads of things that come on this site that I believe are 100% but for me the twin towers stuff is still filed under I don't know.

24 Nov 2016 19:13:40
ok what's your view on the current ongoing vip sexual abuse claims?

24 Nov 2016 18:08:35
There shouldn't be a problem with free speech just like there shouldn't be a problem with free speech been challenged.
I like to think of myself being open minded and not totally controlled by the system. What I see going on atm and being highlighted by the MSM is the 2 extreme agendas being pushed infront of us more so than ever forcing weaker people into supporting an extreme form of Islam and an extreme form of Westernization/ cristianality. I refuse to be pigeons holed into either and whilst bring an atheist I have no problem with moderates living side by side in a secular country.
These extremists need air time but rational people need airtime also so as extreme arguments can be seen for what they really are, a division wedge and tool used by the 1%.

24 Nov 2016 16:09:44
Hey Franky, I think you misunderstand me, I don't automatically side with the official narrative, the reason I generally side with it is that I don't find the arguments supporting the alternative particularly compelling.

24 Nov 2016 14:30:19
yep I found it strange, if I know I could be jailed at the very least my destination would be russia .

24 Nov 2016 13:42:29
the guildford four and hillsbourough were once considered conspiracies that have now been debunked as truth, now 40 years later with the the guildford four justice will be not done as most of the perpetrators will be dead, the same thing will happen with hillsbourough and also the vip sex scandal .

what I am trying to say is all three examples are not as big as a 9/ 11 even thou all are terrible and are a miscarriage of justice then once you realise that the people in charge knew and still tried to hide the facts even now .

does not mean you have to agree with every conspiracy on here but writing it off because official establishment organisations tell you to trust official explanations seems very naive feller.

24 Nov 2016 10:47:11
Hey Franky, I don't think I have an unusual definition of a conspiracy theory. Basically it's any alternative narrative to the one published by the relevant authority coupled with an assumption that the authority is deliberately trying to deceive the public.

Chrisp, I'm familiar with Building 7, I'm familiar with a lot of the more common theories, I read a lot of what is posted and shared here because I'm fascinated with the culture. My opinions are based on comparing the arguments in support of the official narrative to the alternative one.

If we look at 9/11 the facts are that four buildings collapsed and a number of others were damaged. The debate is what caused that damage, on the balance of the evidence I've seen I believe the most likely explanation is that terrorists hijacked four planes with the intention of flying them into various land marks.

In the case of the WTC they succeeded in crashing into the twin towers resulting in a chain of events that culminated with the twin towers and WTC 3 and 7 collapsing. The alternative explanations which attempt to argue a different narrative all have flaws far more significant than the official one so, on balance I see no reason not to believe the official story.

24 Nov 2016 12:44:36
The Russians were always a step ahead of the US in the space race, and if there was a way past the Van Allen radiation belts they would have surely found it. It's difficult to imagine the Russians not making it to the moon soon after the US, if not before. And the Chinese would also be there by now.

There is also the small detail of no crater beneath the landing module, and no dust on the feet of the landing module, the letter C printed on one of the rocks, the backgrounds being the same on different shoots on different days, the Hasselblad cameras taking perfect pictures with film that passed through the Van Allen belts, the odd reflections in the visors, the odd shadow configuration as if there were several different light sources. I really would like to know what people involved in the Russian side of the space race thought about all this.

24 Nov 2016 10:19:03
I find his original choice of destination odd. If you've just done what he did and are on the run, possibly for your life, then south America probably isn't the wisest destination given that they've been in the pickets of the Americans for the last century.

Yes we did him a favour.

24 Nov 2016 09:45:09
You are on this site enough muscatred?! I for one ain't exactly too sure about the twin towers, sandy hook etc. I have seen loads of alternative explanations and don't really buy any of them. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if there's a shred of evidence in them. You just have to make your mind up. Some of it will be true some will be ambiguous and some will be absolute BS.

24 Nov 2016 00:53:02
muscatred out of interest what do you class as a conspiracy?

24 Nov 2016 00:55:21
Building 7. That is all I will say, I recon you will not even know what it is, which speaks volumes.

23 Nov 2016 23:18:05
I think you miss the military more than you're willing to admit. Being obeyed. Always being right (which of course you always are) . Not actually thinking freely, but not realising it. Thinking everyone else is wrong. Naturally.

Good luck with that.

23 Nov 2016 23:32:14
Vanessa Redgrave? cheers guys, yep that would have rocked hollywood .

23 Nov 2016 22:31:10
Do you work for them muscatred? You'd make an excellent politician mate.

23 Nov 2016 22:28:02
Vanessa Redgrave. Extraordinary moment to do soo and required sheer b*lls. I believe she was marked as an anti semite and was barred from entering the US for many years for that comment. Also seen a lot less Hollywood opportunities. I do wonder why.
She did a film or something about Palestine were she then of course knew what was going on and does go on.

23 Nov 2016 23:02:47
I'm pretty sure it's Vanessa Redgrave Franky.

23 Nov 2016 22:26:20
I'm all for disagreements. Voter fraud did happen. Clinton had 3 million votes from unregistered illegal voters and dead people.

23 Nov 2016 21:03:01
You watch some crazy stuff franky lol.
Very disturbing though. I can't imagine the amount of pedophilia and child trafficking currently going on worldwide. For there to be such a mass problem only eludes the the highest places covering it up.