28 Aug 2016 23:25:53 I'm from Co Derry and have grew up in the thick of it. We were invaded by the empires forces. Young men stood forward and took on the might of an army that was sent to suppressed any signs of rebellion. Mc Guinness, well, I've heard stories from within . A friend of my own, who incidentally went to the Hague due to his treatment by British security wouldn't have anything constructive to say about him.
28 Aug 2016 13:38:21 I though the appetite for chipping waned when they realised we couldn't last 5 minutes without our mobile phones, which do the same job and then some :)
28 Aug 2016 13:34:56 Once again you're completely incapable of backing up your dubious and fanciful claims. You claim to have a source. It's probably the Times and the Telegraph.
You started this thread asking for people's views on the Saville report, and then you use it as a Martin McGuinness bashing exercise, trotting out some of the very old establishment propaganda about him. There are many more and if you ever want to explore all the claims and counter claims in the future I'll happily chat with you.
As for the Saville report it would have been interesting to stay on that topic, as I think some visitors here might have been encouraged to delve into the story a bit. It's a tragic story, but also useful as a starting point to explore the complexities of the Troubles. And it is an incredibly complex period, full of tragedy, and worthy of serious and respectful comment.
Every comment you have ever made about Northern Ireland on this site, and some go back a year or more, demonstrate that you have an extreme bias that is matched only by your complete lack of knowledge of the subject, and yet you decide to bail on this topic by making me out to be a biased individual.
Let's be honest, we all bring bias to any discussion. You have a fixed and incurious mind when it comes to Northern Irish politics, a subject you say you have little interest in, yet paradoxically have such strong views on. Your bias is there for all to see. Feel free if you want to be the pot to my kettle.
But what has become increasingly apparent to me since you started posting on this site, is that you absolutely cannot stand being questioned, and I bet I'm not the first person to say that to you!
Bonnes vacances KP, I hope you and your husband have a lovely time, and if you ever make good on that trip to Dublin, I'll be only too happy to buy you a pint and show you around.
28 Aug 2016 00:38:11 Yes McGuinness is a self confessed murderer who participated in the alleged murder of many innocents and now prances around like he's some sort of hero. Despicable man imo.
26 Aug 2016 11:12:33 You should focus more on the 'murderous thugs' to use your phrase, who shot 14 innocent people in cold blood. For someone who claims to have little interest in Northern Ireland you have very strong views on Martin McGuinness. Here's a very short clip of one of the paras talking about what he saw that day. Enjoy your trip to France.
25 Aug 2016 12:31:42 Previous posts you've made suggest you are interested, but you've made some odd comments. The one about the Nobel peace prize winners was strange, and you didn’t clarify when I asked.
Bloody Sunday was planned in advance, sanctioned by Ted Heath, and the paras fired the first shot. It's predictable that the British establishment would to try to demonise Martin McGuinness for his role that day, but if you believe that, you're only seeing it through a very distorted and politically motivated lens. It was cold blooded murder by British soldiers on 14 innocent people who were all unarmed, and many were shot in the back whilst trying to run away. 7 of the dead were teenagers. It's sickening when people (not you) try to score points over who did what, while the murderous bastards that shot and killed 14 innocent people on Bloody Sunday just carried on and got promotions and pensions, while families in Derry were destroyed by the loss of their innocent loved ones.
I always enjoy reading your posts, predominantly your observations are steeped in common sense, you’re clearly well read, and you have a good overview of world events. I often find myself agreeing with your sentiments, but on the subject of Northern Ireland I’m afraid I haven’t yet.
25 Aug 2016 10:03:24 Well it came up in conversation with someone I've known for 30 years who has always been reliable.
Personally I have little interest in Northern Ireland so makes no difference to me.
2 theory's though. 1 McGuiness was there, did as depicted by the witnesses (who far as I can make out were reliable and not bitter) just to provoke an incident and make his murderous band of thugs look good.
2. McGuinness was there, did as depicted on the orders of the agency he was in the employ of.
Either way my friend was pretty adamant McGuiness was there, fired the first shot from the flats, bragged about it afterwards and his role was covered up by Saville for reasons unknown.
But I'll just add thus bit. McGuinness always looks uncomfortable like a man who's hiding something. Like guilt's eating him up.
23 Aug 2016 23:30:55 If you mean the paedophile murderer who got Britain into the EEC then EH, you're right. No doubt he authorised it, but we'll never be able to prove it.
23 Aug 2016 21:10:36 Certain evidence was supposedly suppressed to exonerate certain politicians. Just wondering if anyone had heard that or had any thoughts. Just something that came up in conversation with someone the other day.
23 Aug 2016 13:40:25 I've never seen anyone react in such a paranoid way to a post that was about an organisation thousands of miles away that they're not connected to.
You start blabbering on about rules of engagement, completely missing the point and then ruining the thread because you have a persecution complex the size of a small town, and you became intensely paranoid thinking you were under attack. You weren't.
You think you're the only one here who can understand the complexities of rules of engagement and you claim to be an expert on the subject. A self proclaimed expert is someone who thinks they cannot learn anything new on their chosen subject. Some who has a completely closed off mindset. Someone who can only be right and never be wrong. Maybe that dogmatic self aggrandising mindset worked when you were trying to impress teenage recruits, but all you've done here is show yourself to be incapable of exploring a subject with even the tiniest bit of intellectual curiosity.
23 Aug 2016 12:14:26 Rian, your last post was tantamount to putting up a white flag and announcing you've got nothing to say for yourself. I'll put you out of your misery, I won't post on this thread again.
TTTS · 28 Aug 2016 23:43