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Reply · KimPhilby · 15 Feb 2016 16:55
15 Feb 2016 16:34:47
Do you think possible British exit from the EU and the possible domino reaction amongst other countries (possibly Denmark would also look to secede and Greece also maybe) would be against the plan and why the stay in campaign is stirring the rhetoric?
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Reply · kingkenny7 · 15 Feb 2016 16:55
15 Feb 2016 17:28:09
top post ed 33. you never stop learning on this site. it certainly explains a few things. personally I think this world would be far better with no religion at all. the so called peace loving religions are amongst the most violent.
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Reply · jimmyjones · 15 Feb 2016 14:12
15 Feb 2016 10:17:07
Ed, perhaps people have had enough of having this multiculturalism forced upon them, this could just be the start of the push back, mainstream media dare not critisise Muslims or Islam for fear of offending so called minorities and going against what looks like an agenda' yet it's ok for the indigenous populations of so called Christian countries to be demonized and told how bad and wicked we are for not falling in to line and accepting the islamification of countries or continents.
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Reply · hsf · 12 Feb 2016 22:31
12 Feb 2016 21:21:53
Are you referring to the Terry Wogan interview? Yeah he was being set up on that which is wrong, even Terry said that it never sat well with him what they did.
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Reply · hsf · 12 Feb 2016 04:21
12 Feb 2016 05:18:58
I can't trust a mans word after he's claimed to be Jesus. I just can't take a man seriously after that.
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Reply · Melbourne CFC · 12 Feb 2016 02:49
12 Feb 2016 01:32:56
Now its you who seems to be missing my point mate. I'm not saying we 'need to use a drug'. I'm saying its known that we have used this drug for tens of the thousands of years. Its known its been on our planet for millions of years. Our brain has delevoped receptors that sole purpose that we know of (you can argue that means nothing as its stated as the only known use, but until you put forth another, or one is discovered, your arguement is lacking) is to process THC, which has a high that is only induced through smoking the plant (eating it causes a reaction in the liver and a different 'high' altogether. ) So to think our brain developed receptors that process the psychoactive compound of the plant, and alter our state of consciousness and to be so narrow minded to believe that it could have no impact of our conscious advancement over the past 200,000 years is extremely naive.

As anyone who reads this page knows I'm a huge fan of meditation/ floatation tanks/ sensory deprivation tanks etc, and don't for a second believe you need a plant, or a drug if you prefer that term, although I hope you also use the same terminology for coffee, tea or any other natural plant that effects your brain function, in order to reach higher states, however to believe it hasn't had an impact on our advancement in consciousness, is in my opinion, wholly naive.

Not once have I said humanity needs it. But they've certainly used it for thousands of years of known use, and have had access to it for millions more. I have seen you constantly talk about the missing link in the expansion of our brain and neural processes in terms of evolution, yet it seems if a theory, which is exactly how I have presented this, gets put forward, and has substantial evidence to back it up, isn't claimed as fact, but a possibility you are quick to shoot it down. Seems strange mate.
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Reply · Melbourne CFC · 12 Feb 2016 02:49
12 Feb 2016 01:47:43
Just to clarify mate, I certainly don't think you're a naive person, just your argument on this seems to be a naive approach to take. These pages have tought me plenty, which can be directly attributed to yourself, and the other Eds, so as always appreciate the work you lot do.
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Reply · kingkenny7 · 11 Feb 2016 17:15
11 Feb 2016 18:11:21
thanks for the tip kim. I will look into it. in your own opinion why do you think the americans allowed it back, like most things I suppose money and power comes into it, that allows people to be corrupted and blackmailed etc the whole thing has fascinated me for years.
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Reply · Supasub · 11 Feb 2016 15:41
11 Feb 2016 15:48:12
Good article ed and I think I've read it already as I've been following the episode the whole time. What's the betting that the appeals fail. I'm guessing though that at some point someone if not fuentes himself is going to spill the beans for a large sum of money.
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Reply · Supasub · 11 Feb 2016 13:46
11 Feb 2016 14:10:44
Yes ed. I think it goes further than their training ground milkshakes. For quite some time I suspect that referees were swayed especially when Rossell was there when also holding a position with nike. For a few years they had so much protection you only had to look at a Barcelona player and they would be awarded a free kick. Whenever teams against them appeared to get a foothold in the game then the opposing team would get an extremely harsh / dubious red card against them such as Rvp for arsenal when they got back in the game (just 1 example) . I'm sure people in fifa and uefa were aware nd were happy as Barcelona brought in a lot of sponsorship money for the game. Hopefully the truth will come out regarding Fuentes and the rest.
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Reply · grow bun28 · 11 Feb 2016 10:06
11 Feb 2016 11:03:33
I'm a couch space traveler and I do admit that if you look enough you will find loads of 'evidence' supporting this drug and that. But in my personal experience (and its vast) they can help you find out about yourself but shit all about anything else! I have never thought it gives you a higher knowledge. Nothing I have experienced in a trip could ever be real it's 100% nonsense but it's my little nonsense.
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Reply · Mr.x · 11 Feb 2016 09:55
11 Feb 2016 10:54:16
To be honest guys I think David icke is "trippin" on some of the things he says. Maybe not all the things he says but most. The mans on the right track though and I thank him for all the hard work he puts in.
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Reply · Melbourne CFC · 11 Feb 2016 05:36
11 Feb 2016 06:25:03
I don't think I'm missing the point at all mate. I'm not stating anything as fact, and think with something as complex as life you need to open to new information changing perceived views. Saying widely accepted isn't just some random guess they've plucked out of nowhere. It's based on current knowledge of meteorites smashing Earth for millions of years, the substances they have introduced to our planet, their beliefs around those substances creating a reaction to the environment and advancements in life happening as a result. It shouldn't be taken as fact, but also shouldn't just be dismissed as guesswork.

As for THC receptors, it's just a theory and due to research being restricted for a long time around marijuana consumption, and often one sided, with a problem sort after, rather than discovered, we probably won't know just how important it has been in our conscious evolution for a while yet. I don't think anyone has to or is meant to use it, but it certainly has its benefits for our current society, as shown in Colorado. At the time of writing it is also the only known natural substance that triggers a reaction from the THC receptors and gives you a 'high'. You don't have to believe that means anything about anything, but I think that would be a very naive approach to take.
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Reply · Melbourne CFC · 11 Feb 2016 02:50
11 Feb 2016 01:01:16
Not too surprising really. I believe its accepted by most scientists that the amino acids that are needed for life on Earth are also thought of as coming from a meteorite. Magic mushrooms or psilocybin (the psychoactive ingrediant) is also thought of as arriving on a meteorite that smashed into earth, and if I'm not mistaken they also believe that H2O, or it might be just the hydrogen atom also got introduced to Earth by meteor impacts.

It could be the origins for the conspiracy that alien life came to earth and engineered humans, as we certainly only exist thanks to the universe sending these different chemicals to our planet.

On a side note, its interesting the human brain has THC receptors, with the only known substance creating a 'high' related to THC being Marijuana. Certainly adds credance to the argument that marijuana has been used by humans, or primates, for an extremely long time, and is far more intregal to our progression as a species than some think.

Interesting stuff Ed, thanks for posting.
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Reply · Supasub · 10 Feb 2016 22:48
10 Feb 2016 22:33:16
Yes ed and as most of us know any human being taking or to have taken hgh including retrospectively is pretty much banned across all sports and potentially carries a lifetime ban.
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Reply · TTTS · 10 Feb 2016 21:44
10 Feb 2016 22:39:22
Would be tempted to attend the london gig . Only 11 miles away . Maybe try and get of the graveyard shift for it .
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Reply · TTTS · 10 Feb 2016 13:56
10 Feb 2016 01:01:22
Ed 007 mentioned Messi before and something about a medical condition he had, only for some drug he would never be able to perform at the level he does. Not quoting him exactly but something in those lines.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 10 Feb 2016 13:01
10 Feb 2016 13:59:41
I don't think I could add much more beyond what you already know. Goes to show what too much budget creates. Its up there with the trained dolphins and the exploding cigar attempt on Castro. There's probably even more bizarre things they won't admit to.
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