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Reply · RedAndy94 · 31 Jan 2016 15:54
31 Jan 2016 16:53:35
The sad thing is can you really trust what anyone says wether it's on a broadsheet or online? You can never know for certain who or where the information has come from or who has had a hand in it. All we can do is try to question things as much as possible and try and make our own judgements.
I find Social media terrifying, anyone can voice their opinions and it's on display for half the world, it's scary.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 31 Jan 2016 14:56
31 Jan 2016 15:51:00
Just because something is an alternative view or goes against the mainstream doesn't make it the truth either.
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Reply · grow bun28 · 31 Jan 2016 14:05
31 Jan 2016 15:04:34
Where did you watch it and where can I see it in uk?
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Reply · KimPhilby · 31 Jan 2016 14:02
31 Jan 2016 11:08:52
Id also like to know the thoughts of one of the other editors as well on this particular topic.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 31 Jan 2016 10:50
31 Jan 2016 11:35:05
Spasiba tovarisch editor.

There have been bigger monsters in history, Stalin and Mao n the same century. But anyone who thinks we need more hitlers I just cannot agree with that.

If doing the best for your own people means the exclusion and extermination of others then how is that to be considered right? That line of thinking excuses Milosevic and makes Rwanda acceptable.

That is not what I was raised to think, even by a regime that had murdered millions of its own citizens.

We see the same philosophy present in Isis condemning anyone they consider inferior.

We are all human beings and have to share this planet. One day in peace hopefully away from bullshit religious and racial superiority dogma.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 31 Jan 2016 10:20
31 Jan 2016 11:06:27
Ed33 your saying the ultimate plan is to ruin Europe by destroying Europeans. Well wasn't your hero hitler a massive step forwards in that plan. All I said was any philosophy where you state that one human being is superior to another human being can only end in one way. Which is something we are seeing today. Unless of course you actually agree with nazi racial policy and eugenics theory?

I don't expect this to be posted as a lot of times when I post something you don't agree with it doesn't get posted. I thought this site was supposed to be free of censorship.
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Reply · grow bun28 · 31 Jan 2016 09:13
31 Jan 2016 10:07:39
I really don't know ed🍄🌚💊💉🌡
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Reply · grow bun28 · 31 Jan 2016 00:16
31 Jan 2016 01:14:35
You are correct but what if an existence of one group could be the end of another or a society when you don't receive the same love and respect that is given. And yes in cases you mention above them of course not, but the thread is about the mass ignorance to the facts of what really happened
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Reply · jimmyjones · 30 Jan 2016 23:29
30 Jan 2016 23:21:09
TTTs, I can see what you are getting at, but if mozzies were that efficiant, why are people being pushed enmasse from the middle east and Africa and beyond by conflict&drought/ food shortage to Europe? wouldn't it be easier and more efficiant to make sure they stayed in the region where the mozzies could operate happily, that's far more effective, viruses and pathogens mutate, the elite couldn't keep up they would be at risk, quickest way to get rid of a problem is through violence, hence the need for conflict and war, those in the know&money are miles away and never in danger. mass immigration into western Europe is only happening for one thing and that is unrest, conflict and war.
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Reply · jimmyjones · 30 Jan 2016 22:07
30 Jan 2016 22:35:42
That's very true ed, my mind is as closed as Kim's, my life up to now has been complex, more so than most people. I've come into contact with life experience moulds the mind set and I've got no problem with mine although I feel the conflict internally from time to time.

If I'm honest, as things stand if you look at the way things are globaly now I feel for the upcoming indigenous western Europeans, their lands and way's of Life have been frittered away by people who will never have to deal with the fallout.
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Reply · jimmyjones · 30 Jan 2016 21:10
30 Jan 2016 21:53:25
You and I Kim will never agree, all I'm saying here now is I think Hitler did what he thought was best for his people, take care of your own 1st if we had more politicians like him now we would all be happier and as I said that's my opinion.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 30 Jan 2016 12:23
30 Jan 2016 13:21:19
As I said though it wasn't just the Jews. As soon as you bring eugenics into it anyone fitting the ideal becomes fair game. Racial undesirables were purged out of society. Would anyone like to see that repeated today? All these children with downs syndrome do we just go around injecting them? If we're wiping out people based on disability's where does that stop? Any philosophy or policy where you say one human being is inferior to another human being can only end one way.

And ultimate responsibility for what happened under the nazis has to reside with one person for creating that philosophy and allowing a culture to grow that enabled the worst excesses of human nature to flourish.
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Reply · jimmyjones · 30 Jan 2016 08:33
30 Jan 2016 09:29:34
True Churchill certainly had blood on his hands too but that's not really talked about, as we know history is written by the victors, well mainstream "history" that is.
And yes Kim' Hitler had a hard on for Jews, but look at what was happening in Germany at the time hyper inflation, people starving, reparations, etc etc, and seemingly to Hitler and no doubt many others the Jews were sitting pretty at the centre of it all.

Look what's happening in the middle east now' palestinian people being forced off there lands and as good as being forced back into the stone age by a state set up by the victors, by the very people who were supposedly persecuted in the war, they are as good as doing the same, and the western powers do next to nothing'and the question to be asked is why? was Hitler so wrong to think these people were bad and the allies corrupt?
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Reply · TTTS · 30 Jan 2016 03:53
30 Jan 2016 04:44:22
Churchill was no wallflower either. He would have put Thatcher to shame.
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Reply · growbun28 · 29 Jan 2016 23:36
30 Jan 2016 00:31:48
I have watched first 2 will plug my way through em ed!
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Reply · KimPhilby · 29 Jan 2016 20:34
29 Jan 2016 21:27:04
I'm Russian you don't have to tell me about Stalin. As I mentioned the holodomor above. But agreed he doesn't get the criticism he deserves.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 29 Jan 2016 20:34
29 Jan 2016 21:30:15
I mentioned enough examples there of other victims of the nazis.

At the end of the day the core philosophy in both Mein kampf and the Nuremberg laws was the superiority of one type of human being over another human being. And from that came what?
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Reply · grow bun28 · 29 Jan 2016 20:03
29 Jan 2016 21:01:19
the point is that for some reason hitler and the nazis were singled out to been more vile than any other in history. People forget that almost every other country in history has done vile things in war time. I think it was the english who started concentration camps! there has never been any proof of figures and they have even been officially changed throughout the years> the start of WW2 was no different to recent wars in that A country fights with another country and the english and the americans come wading in.

i think that hitler asked those mentioned to leave the country first. Its the same as the current migrant situation. If a country decided that enough is enough then if it decided to ask them to leave then why is it wrong. the jews were trying to bring germany down or at least a majority of them were.
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