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14 Sep 2015 12:20:09
And where did I say I didn't want peace? As I said earlier you can talk peace with groups like Sinn Fein or the plo because they have realistic political aims.

But your talking about peace talks with Isis. What are the political aims there? They want to impose a backwards totalitarian regime on people. So there's no starting point for talks. Islamic fundamentalism is totally incompatible with a modern liberal democracy. But many in the labour party are happy to associate with these people as it buys votes. That's hypocrisy.

How does anyone, not just corbyn, but anyone in the labour party associating with oppressive fundamentalists progress the cause of socialism. As I asked yesterday how do you think feminists and gay rights campaigners feel?

All you seem focused on us having an outsider like corbyn to cone in and stick two fingers up to the establishment.

14 Sep 2015 09:52:50
Thank you editor 001 you understood what I was trying to say.

Franky I have never watched fox news. I stand up for women's rights and gay rights and I'm dismissed as a right winger? I've consistently said all regimes in the middle east have shocking records on human rights but I'm a right winger?

I admire you for your passionate defence of your principles. At least you have some unlike so many.

But I would not pin your hopes on corbyn. I fear you will end up very disappointed.

14 Sep 2015 10:29:59
I vote Alliance, I haven't much choice really. If Catholics want to vote then the SDLP are a very respectable party who still have the same ideas as Sinn Fien but didn't feel the need to murder people to get heard.

14 Sep 2015 11:05:44
first of all edd I am very calm when I wrote that as I am calm now.
I stand by claim that it is totally hypocrisy by kim to suggest by sharing a platform makes him a apologist , the saudi flag was raised at half mask at buckingham palace when there dictator died last year who was doing the exact same stuff to people as isis and let's be real about this ,they and turkey are funding and training these terrorist.

so like I have mentioned he was one of the first to open talks with sinn fein back in the day which brought peace when it was very raw and he copped flak then but he was never a leader so this has amplified .

btw can any of you guys give me a alternative to talking? because plan A ain't working.

time will tell if he's fraud but I will stand by my claim that this is not about corbyn it never has been, this is about a change to peoples awareness that enough is enough and instead of accepting what the talking heads are saying ,we as a group movement can make a change , hence the massive amount of numbers that have joined the lab party , nearly a million which has never happened before in british history .

lastly edd how is the podcast idea on this site going? I would like to maybe having a debate with kim or anyone else on this subject or any other believe it or not ufo stuff is my first love.

14 Sep 2015 10:29:59
I vote Alliance, I haven't much choice really. If Catholics want to vote then the SDLP are a very respectable party who still have the same ideas as Sinn Fien but didn't feel the need to murder people to get heard.

14 Sep 2015 09:27:42
A serious question the Irish rover, if I'm not intruding too much. Who would you vote for?
I don't BTW.

14 Sep 2015 08:23:23
There is no doubt that there was Provo involvement in the revenge killing of McGuigan. The question is how high did it go up the ranks. Any one who thinks the Provos are no more are seriously deluded. Even Storey not that long ago with McGuiness by his side gave his own "We haven't gone away you know" These people are the scum of the earth. Ira, Uvf, Uda, Aad, whatever you want to call them. i'm more than happy for them to shot each other, just not in my country. Any right minded decent human being would never vote for a political group that a such links to past mass murderers. I always go back to one question. What if it was a son, daughter, father or mother of yours that was killed, would you want them in power? Tribal politics rules in Northern Ireland still. People vote on the colour of the their election leaflets, green, white and gold or red, white and blue. These should be banned from political parties use in elections.

13 Sep 2015 23:07:51
firmly center don't make me laugh , your views are a mix of fox news/sky news rhetoric .

give me one just one example that corbyn admits to supporting homophobic and misogynist views.

i bet you all the rubles in russia you can't , but if you want to go there I could give you plenty of examples that our government past and present thinks its ok ,remind me again homophobic and misogynist views erm the saudi arabia dictatorship have those same views do they not? funny that you have never called the tories or new LAB out on this subject .

as for corbyn not making a election ,if it was a split or narrow win then there would be a good chance that could happen , but he annihilated the opposition and thankfully the people choose the leader not the PLP.

13 Sep 2015 21:18:49
Corbyn is a Trotskyist. You should look into the history of your own party.

You dodged the point I made about asking are you happy to support a man who supports people with extreme homophobic and misogynist views.

No I am not right wing. Firmly on the centre left thank you.

Besides, Corbyn probably won't make it to the general election.

13 Sep 2015 20:57:11
Apparently Storey, being the person he is was carrying out investigations internally, also trying to defuse the situation that has arisen amongst rank and file " ex members".
His arrest was politically motivated, where or not the murder of mc Guigan was carried out to cause this situation is anybody call. It's not beyond the capabilities of Mi6 /military intelligence /special branch who like to be in control and have controlled the dirty war over here for its 30 years existence.

13 Sep 2015 20:31:09
Bobby Storey supposed chief of intelligence , would be not very intelligent to be involved in that murder!

Word on the street here is its been done to allow the dup and other parties to resign

political policing at it's finest.

13 Sep 2015 20:13:17
Three leading Republicans were arrested and released with out Charge, making it easy for the unionists to resign / suspend /semi suspend or what ever they have done. This strangely enough happened around the time the assemble was due back from its summer break and the first minister plus 3 of his party members dup were possibly going to be quizzed about dodgy property deals and Nama.

This on the back of another scandal involving a dup minister favouring a building company carrying out government house maintenance involved in fraud.
Yes the murder of mc Guigan and the subsequent arrest of 3 high ranking Republicans linked to sinn fein was very convenient.

13 Sep 2015 18:06:13
dodged your points? you started with a right wing neo con statement about the west getting dragged into the middle east and my reply about funded dictators who fund these manics should have covered all of your points.

we agree about stopping these terrorists but my and your methods are miles away from each other .

correct NO ONE is saying usa uk and israel is perfect until now ,maybe that is why the right wing are getting rattled , your not ring wing by any chance are you kim?

haha trotskyist? you could not fill a school gym of labour trotskyist ,i can not speak for every lab voter but the vast amount I do speak to want the same thing as I do .

13 Sep 2015 18:08:09
corbyn stance on terror is simple , find out who are funding them then stop the supply.

13 Sep 2015 17:03:50
Nice that you dodged every other point I made.

13 Sep 2015 17:09:49
Corbyns stance on terror is he doesn't have one.

No one is saying the Americans or the British or the Israelis are perfect.

The labour party has been taken over by a neo Trotskyist group. And the extreme left is not a good thing. Especially when allying itself to a bunch of religious fascists.

13 Sep 2015 16:08:47
the west got dragged in to the middle east? are you serious about that statement?

the west and the iron curtain have been putting there own dictators in power for over half a century and we all know the reasons why ,the same dictators they empowered are now funding terror cells , the world has gone mad if you think corbyn's stance on terror is worrying .

13 Sep 2015 15:45:13
I think I saw this on tv the other day. Very interesting.

13 Sep 2015 14:48:44
Do you also think Islamic state want a dialogue?

They've slaughtered thousands amongst the yazidis, Kurds, Syrians and Iraqis.

They've dragged women off and sold them at auction as sex slaves to be raped by their owners.

They've executed normal soldiers of the Iraqi and Syrian armies. These men are mostly conscripts who don't want to be there or are just trying to do their duty. In many cases just protecting their homes and families. Instead they get butchered. If this had been the Americans you'd soon be bleating about war crimes.

They've destroyed historical sites like palmyra or Nineveh that have stood for centuries.

You really think such a barbaric mentality can be reasoned with?

The ira or the plo had legitimate political causes. Dialogue could be opened. What's Islamic states political cause?

For a so called socialist party too many in labour suck up to Islamic fundamentalists. Despite their barbaric attitudes towards women and gay people. The total antithesis of the socialist principles of equality to all regardless of class, gender, colour and orientation.

13 Sep 2015 14:37:31
Depends how far you trust the ira.

Just because Iran have only attacked one neighbouring country (and lost) doesn't mean the intention isn't there. Why do you think they've thrown everything into gaining the bomb over the last 25 years. And again you've not read what I've said. Its not just Israel that fears a nuclear Iran. But the rest of the region that follows a different religious sect. The whole mess in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq is a sectional war that makes Belfast look like amateur hour. And Saudi Arabia funds one side and Iran the other. The west got dragged into this by the Saudis and now Russia are starting to as well.

Regards the Saudis I have little time for them either. A bunch of arrogant misogynistic homophobes as bad as Iran or Hamas.