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17 Oct 2014 13:07:12
Good read. Loads of inconsistencies. Although I think Spivey arrest is more because of the sensitivity of the issue.
The purpose of the attack was to clearly show that the Koran preaches violence (btw which it does not)

Will read it and let you know Franky. I have an odd uncertainty about this too, and I have a lot of respect for Nick Kollerstrom. The Spivey arrests are highly suspicious too.

Ryan.

Hey CTR,
Crazy is a matter of perspective. When one cannot relate to the way another processes information, either due to lack of common information or an inability to mimic another's analytical processes, then the label "crazy" is applied and used, so as to end the discussion and inhibit the process of venturing into the unknown. If one deals in uncovering conspiracies and has never been called crazy it usually means they haven't uncovered much.

In regards to experiencing fear when confronted with the possibility of the existence of something one would identify as alien to oneself, one could say that that is dependent on insecurities. One should be excited when encountering the unknown, as that is the only way for one to expand, surpass and evolve beyond their current limitations.

Concerning the actual question, I have offered my opinion on the similar question submitted below.
zari

http://gbtimes.com/life/knights-templar-and-international-bankings-origins

article on what Chris and anonymous replier said. Decent enough

The Templars did indeed create a banking structure as described above. While they were persecuted heavily in France it was less so in other countries. The true reason for their troubles was this treasure they accumulated because of the banking system. Philip France was after their treasure and instigated the persecution. As an aside this was on October 13th 1307, considered by many to be the real reason behind friday 13th being seen as an omino day now.

Thanks for sharing Ryan, what horrendous practises. My mind was blown open on the whole subject of food supply when I watched the documentary 'Food Inc' a few years back. Would recommend it to anyone who has not seen it.

Harold

That's interesting Chris about the Templar's being bankers. If true, it would make sense given the bankers still rule us today.

I believe the Templar's who survived went on to form other secret societies and passed on their knowledge via these groups to where we are today, still being run by individuals who are members of the modern equivalent groups.

Harold

Ed001 did you say bankers or w - actually never mind!

Reet - it's been good getting fresh blood onto the page so glad you are going to stick around. For me, the US banking families were almost certainly behind the JFK hit. They had control over certain factions within the CIA, certain high level politicians, important media people and so on - all the necessary bits of the jig saw. They also had the motive (s), not only was JFK cutting them out of the banking industry he was also against secret societies, the Vietnam War and the big oil companies - all of which were of vested interest to those elite groups.

Harold

16 Oct 2014 15:52:38
Imo there was some sort of symbolic treasure. Not gold but documents and stuff which could be used for blackmailing.
What was the name of the book from where dan Brown sourced his material?

The knights Templars have always intrigued me, did they really execute them or were they reformed just under a different title?

1 thing is for sure the powers at the time certainly gained from them and they had so much power I believe only the pope could take them diwn.


Am I right in thinking they were the first group to introduce a sort of banking format? I'm sure I remember hearing u could place your money in there vault in 1 country and you would be issued with a slip of paper where if u went on a journey obviously u didn't want to carry your money on you, so once u had reached your destination you would issue your slip to the Templars of that country and they would hand u your money minus a commission for using there vault.

16 Oct 2014 15:04:28
That is a good theory. Doubt we will ever know the truth.

16 Oct 2014 14:50:19
Think you have summed up the situation very well. I hear numerous stories in India. One study reported close to 100 thousand deaths in a yeqr or so

Here is his latest one for people who have never heard of the guy, you will get a gist how disinfo works, also he mentions richard d hall who gave him a hard time about his claims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3EycAS-tPk#t=2751

Johnson has to be on the payroll edd or let's say encouraged.

Personally, I subscribe to the cyclical version of history. There is a lot of evidence to support such a theory, both in what has come to be known as forbidden archeology and in religious/mythological/ancient historical texts.
The old testament, the vedas and quite a large volume of ancient greek texts describe previous cycles and the transition to the next cycle through cataclysmic events. The mayan had many concentric calendars spanning hundreds of millennia back, perhaps even further, and where adamant about the cyclical nature of the universe. So adamant in fact, that maintaining track of these cycles was the central pillar of their civilization.

There are talks of four ages and four cataclysms that preceded ours. The age of titans (giants) to which we have proof in the form of giant skeletons. The age of gods (lemuria, poseidonia/atlantis), ancient greek history deals with that in detail. The age of demigods, this is again covered in ancient greek but also roman history. The last is our age, the age of man.
This is not to say that there couldn't have been others that were simply not documented by anyone.

If one accepts the cyclical nature of the universe then everything would appear to be a grand experiment that has as yet not produced the desired result and is thus recycled.
Through the electric universe theory one could argue that the desired outcome would be for the prime species of the planet to achieve a harmonic coexistence with the all and evolve by rising to a greater orbit of equilibrium, rather than be discharged as a photon.
This would translate to us becoming a space based civilization that fulfills its needs through perpetually renewable sources and whose members view everything as equal to themselves. (Warning: Subjective translation)

All these is not to say I do not believe that aliens exist. I cannot though accept that an alien civilization would be flying about in visible to us spacecraft that would falter like the one in Roswell or could be shot down by primitives such as ourselves.
Operation paperclip proves that what we observe and assume are alien spacecraft are man made vehicles, designed in germany and brought to the usa and russia after the end of the farce that was ww2.
zari

Even though I haven't spent as much time researching this subject as some other posters of the site I can offer two possibilities that have as yet not been mentioned.

People in positions of relative power tend to get there after one to many personal sacrifices. That which is usually sacrificed is the light in them.
Naturally, there would be an internal conflict arising from that realization which would make them attracted to their opposite, innocence incarnate. In turn, that could lead to murder, rape or some other fear based action in a confused attempt to purify, empower or desensitize themselves.

Another possibility could be that the secret space program has advanced to a level where it requires workers with unprogrammed (unlimited) minds. This is based on another conspiracy which if true would require a lot of people to maintain.
Kidnapping children from orphanages, from homes with parents that could be easily discredited or purchasing child slaves from devastated countries would be one way for those who run it to get the slaves they require.
zari

People, but predominantly children go missing and its all linked to the ruling 1%, the more I read up about it the more I think that the occult they worship are evil entities from a different dimension (another form of alien ~) none of the god/ devil /good/evil rubbish,
and only certain bloodlines know the truth, like herbie said johnny gosch is a mind-blowing case that people have to watch on youtube plus watch everything concerning that case.

Personally myself I don't think it was Jackie either. I just mentioned her playing devils advocate as it is still possible. Even when she motions jfk forward a shot from the lap area could still move his head back and to the left as she was sat to his left and the exit is towards the top of the head. But I agree with someone above that there was at least 3-4 shooters and most likely from the front direction. Only the government and the military have the power to do certain things that day and as explained most of them are dead or conveniently dead, many in suspicious circumstances. One of the best theories I've heard as to why was that he was going to divulge to the world about the existence of et's whatever and also told Marilyn.

Yes the Queen and Prince Lizard and also let's not forget the Vatican found guilty of crimes against humanity in respect to the dissapearance of up to 50000 Canadian children.
Apparantly the Queen can not be prosecuted because of who she is.
Evil is within that woman, you can see it in her eyes.

15 Oct 2014 23:52:31
Rosco, poisoning is a hard way to go about it. You have to have someone very close in order to administer it. Anyone that close is likely to be loyal to the target. Also when you need someone gone in a specific timeframe poisoning isn't the best method as your reliant on opportunities. It isn't like you can get the white house maid to slip something in the morning coffee. Too much can go wrong. And if it does its traceable.

Shooting down the plane is even more difficult. Even back then it most likely would have had an air traffic corridor cleared for it with a fighter escort on hand for any such potential attack. You wouldn't get near it. An easier way would be to go for a surface to air missile as its coming into land. But the chances are there could be survivors, you could have fellow conspirators on board.

The simplest way is to go for a guaranteed kill, and a headshot is guaranteed. Then all you need is a disposable tool to frame for it.

Really what happened in Dallas was a perfectly planned job.

Kim Philby