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Why would you leak anything if you got paid and if you did spill the beans you would prob have a nast accident? or who is to say cia agents can not be actors after all they had a ex actor as a president, now the have presidents who could easly pass as actors.

17 Oct 2014 23:56:10
More like patriotism and a nice veiled threat to keep your mouth shut or it's prison, aslyum or the morgue.

Kim Philby

Well the mainstream media have certainly got everyone scared about ebola. I imagine that international travel will be the first step in mandatory civilian vaccinations. Armed forces, civil servants, then of course there will have to be some fake celeb vaccinations and everyone will be rushing to be next.

Very interested to hear any deciphering of the numbers and especially the letters on the cube.

Ryan.

Well tbh mate with the amount of people u would need to pull off an operation like Boston it would mean a hell of a lot of money to keep them all silent, in all honesty though buddy I don't know that's why I'm asking peoples thoughts

How do you know they are low paid extras Chris? Type Adriana Victoria Munoz into a search engine and see what comes up. Don't ever underestimate the power of blind patriotism augmented by a nice monthly pay cheque, especially in the US.

Ryan.

17 Oct 2014 19:45:50
Well let's see, what did JFK do to annoy so many people?

His proposed changes to the federal banking system obviously annoyed a certain group of families.

His proposed withdrawal from Vietnam annoyed the military, the CIA and a certain group of families who supply the military with everything from rifles and blankets to multi million dollar airplanes.

His handling of Castro, Cuba, the Bay of Pigs annoyed the CIA, the mafia, and a certain group of families.

His resulting fallout with the CIA, the firing of Dulles and vow to splinter the agency into a thousand pieces obviously upset the CIA, and their friends and backers in a certain group of families.

His appointment of his brother as A-G and his campaign against the mafia upset the mafia families.

Basically everything the guy did upset someone, and each act you look at links into another act and each upset person links to someone else. Its quite a cartel Jack had against him: CIA, Mafia, Military, FBI, Wall Street Bankers, Oil barons, and so on. Not all of the whole lot, but enough, and enough in significant positions of power to be able:

To arrange a trip to a city away from JFK's power base.
To arrange that odd route through the city.
To clear out the bodyguards.
To create the legend of Oswald
To create a patsy like Oswald
To get Ruby in place to silence Oswald.
To muddy the waters with the mess that was the autopsy and then the Warren Commission.

Look at what's happened since. The Vietnam war escalated, the wealthy banking families got richer. Iraq and the war for oil all because these families got so powerful.

Mort

The Vatican opened its library to the public about a year ago. Unfortunately they have decided to withhold the list of the books it actually contains. However, they have stated that if one knows the book they are looking for by its title, they will be given access to it. Anyone know the title of any long suppressed books and their original respective titles?
zari

17 Oct 2014 21:12:14
Didn't the cctv footage show them driving the car at him?

Sorry but if 've just seen 2 scary looking dudes run a guy over then jump out armed with a meat cleaver and try to hack his head off and their standing around covered in blood ranting about Iraq and allah an whatever else they allegedly did then it would have been follow the Mort shaped blur.

Mort

Shocked and saddened by frankyscousers post, the fact that you admit you would have legged it says more about you than the woman who went face to face with him. I really do admire his posts on here as he is very knowledgeable about all things "conspiracy". But. this is complete nonsense. The more you try to debunk it the stronger the conspiracists will grow. Notice the word "conspiracists contains the word "racists".

Please do not give them the attention that they seek. Considering that your name is franky"scouse" I would have thought that if you do hail from Liverpool instant justice would have been carried out long before the police arrived, I know in my hometown of Walsall in the west mids it would have done. Keep up the with the interesting and thought provoking posts but please, you are way off the mark with this one

17 Oct 2014 18:51:50
is that counting or not counting the vaults crammed with art, loot an various other bits of wealth.

Always thought it a cheek that they have all this priceless art just stuffed away gathering dust. If they built a museum and put it on show I'd willingly pay to get in, as long as the money went to the needy and deserving. Which let's face it it probably wouldn't.

Mort

No one should be arrested over a opinion, no matter how sensitive it is, now spivey is thinking of dropping his views and his website over this, and btw I do not agree with spivey on a few things but freedom of speech is going day by day with new laws and illegal arrests and intimidation, where does it stop?

17 Oct 2014 18:13:09
I was just provoking thought on what actually is the role of the police and security forces.

I don't think anyone disputes that certain acts of violence are abhorrent and the perpetrators have to be brought to justice, but as everyone's idea of justice is different that's another question. Society needs simple basic rules but who decides exactly what breaks the rules? We have seen many serious crimes ignored whilst petty offences are persecuted.

I think eventually it will end up in private hands, at least the day to day uniformed general policing. Its already starting. Once policing becomes target orientated (in this case to increase revenues) then you will see a police state.

Kim Philby

Cheers Franky, I'm interested in this so will read it and let you know.

I've been following Chris Spivey relatively closely and the way he's been treated recently is disgraceful, yet sadly predictable. At times like these we all need to stick together and it's great to see many of his followers have been actively helping him by overloading the police, social services etc. with emails and phonecalls. Positive action for once, let's hope it continues.

Harold

Great questions KP. Also, is the legislation they set these days even lawful? Do we have to consent to it? I'm sure Ed033 knows what I mean far better than I do but it's an area I've been getting interested in recently.

Harold

I wonder if it is related to a specific event present/future?

Ryan.

That's a cracking question KP. There are a few people on here that I actively look for their comments and I enjoy reading what you have to say.

I've a question. With all these police cutbacks, less bobbies on the beat etc. Are we or can anyone see a time when the policing in this country becomes privatised? Or partially privatised? Or is that part of the point you were making?

AngryChef

17 Oct 2014 14:21:22
Ed the Secret Archives or something else?

17 Oct 2014 13:43:42
Without getting bogged down in the particulars of this case and apologies for going off on a tangent.

But the question is, what are the police and security services for?

Its in the name, the police police the people, its law enforcement, its looking for wrong doers. But who makes the laws, who decides who is doing wrong? Who classifies the people as criminals that need their behaviour policing?

And the security services, well service implies their doing you a favour. Even if your paying handsomely for the privilege. But just who are they making things secure from?

Kim Philby

I sometimes think my mother in law is up there somewhere. Along with the bloodlines and the other people mentioned on here.