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Reply · frankyscouser · 11 Oct 2014 15:49
I have just found this site that explains everything about organite.

http://www.soul-guidance.com/orgonite/#What is Orgone
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Reply · frankyscouser · 11 Oct 2014 14:37
Cheers edd, all items come to £50 which I thought was very reasonable, anyways giving half the items to my mum, will keep you updated if there is something behind the orgonite.
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Oct 2014 12:16
So much disinformation out there on this subject, which illustrates the lengths TPTB have gone to, to cover up the truth.

I saw a similar ch5 documentary that concluded the shot came from the car behind when a secret service agent accidentally pulled the trigger upon slipping - how convenient! Not to mention the shot came from the front not behind?

In my view, the fatal shot clearly came from the direction of the grassy knoll, whether that be a location on the knoll or beyond it. LHS was the patsy used to form the official narrative. Jackie making the shot is disinformation IMO as with many other theories.

On Jack Ruby, found this extract on vigilant citizen site:

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In March 1965, a year after his conviction, Jack Ruby conducted a brief televised news conference in which he stated:

“Everything pertaining to what’s happening has never come to the surface. The world will never know the true facts of what occurred, my motives. The people who had so much to gain, and had such an ulterior motive for putting me in the position I’m in, will never let the true facts come above board to the world. ”

When asked by a reporter, “Are these people in very high positions, Jack?”, he responded “Yes. ”

According to an article in the London Sunday Times, shortly before he died, Ruby told psychiatrist Werner Teuter that the assassination was “an act of overthrowing the government” and that he knew “who had President Kennedy killed. ” He added: “I am doomed. I do not want to die. But I am not insane. I was framed to kill Oswald. ”

Ruby died from lung cancer shortly after these statements. According to Dallas Deputy Sheriff Al Maddox, Ruby had suspected that he was injected with cancer cells.

Jim Marrs book - “Ruby told me, he said, ‘Well, they injected me for a cold. ’ He said it was cancer cells. That’s what he told me, Ruby did. I said you don’t believe that rubbish. He said, ‘I damn sure do!’ [Then] one day when I started to leave, Ruby shook hands with me and I could feel a piece of paper in his palm… [In this note] he said it was a conspiracy and he said … if you will keep your eyes open and your mouth shut, you’re going to learn a lot. And that was the last letter I ever got from him. ”
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Regardless of the precise identity and location of the shooter - my take is the elite families of the USA were behind the assassination. They needed to over throw JFK because of his anti-central banking, anti-oil industry, anti-CIA, anti-Vietnam war tendencies (pick your favoured motive!). They set up LHS as the patsy, then Jack Ruby as the patsy's patsy. On the day itself they had at least one other marksman (possibly more) to ensure a 'successful' result. The elitists used their contacts held within cells of the CIA and other intelligence agencies, organised crime families, government puppets and the media to carry out the initial shooting and subsequent cover up.

This was a mass conspiracy on a par with 9/11 and would have required compartmentalised support within many agencies to pull it off so successfully.

I watched a very good documentary on this some time ago but it's hard to find as it was repeatedly getting taken down off youtube, if I find it I will post a link.

Sorry for the long post.

Harold
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Oct 2014 12:16
This is a fantastic suggestion. I try to keep records of things I have read/watched but inevitably when it comes to trying to find them (when I get into a debate with someone) I struggle, which is frustrating.
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Oct 2014 11:37
That's interesting, never looked into this personally but it does make sense now I think about it.

Harold
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Oct 2014 11:30
11 Oct 2014 12:25:19
There's just too much mess around the whole thing. I never bought into the Jackie part.

The Ruby angle is interesting but the mob's just covering tracks for someone else.

Mort
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Oct 2014 11:30
KP would that be the 1979 anthrax leak in Sverdlovsk? Previously, and again, known as Yekaterinburg, scene of the murder of the Romanovs?

If so then I ma guessing the local party bigwig was Yeltsin?

Interesting you mention Harbin, as one of the major things the Japanese were working on and tested was anthrax, which as you say the facility and scientists were captured by the red army.

I understand research is still ongoing as well.

Mort
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Reply · Joe · 11 Oct 2014 09:57
Kaizer, I'd recommend reading Michael Crichtons book "The State of Fear"

Whilst it's a fictional novel, it's an accurate description of the scientific inaccuracies and politically driven agendas of people who are pro climate change.

Like all of Crichtons books, its built solidly on facts and well worth a read if you've got the time
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Reply · frankyscouser · 11 Oct 2014 09:45
Jfk was the first political conspiracy I got in to even thou I am more in to ufo related stuff, as for the jackie k stuff I have found the more dissinfo you put out there the harder it is to find the truth, do I think the mob or someone else ordered ruby to kill oswald?, yes. Do I think oswald had the skill to make those shots?, no.

we all have different opinions which is good but 1 thing remains that can not be argued, history showed in Dallas 1963 the whole world not just the usa changed for the worse.
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Oct 2014 07:18
Yes I agree with Ed001, it used to be called global warming, but they have since rebranded their product to climate change.

Ryan.
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Oct 2014 04:46
Ed002, would love to hear your honest opinion on it. You lived in San francisco for some time and your most likely American. You often only relay stuff as fact that you know which is great but you rarely include your opinion which I understand also particularly the majority of the time on football issues. I know this page isn't completely your bag, but would love to know what you genuinely think. If it wasn't your gun that was one fired that day who do you think was?

Supasub
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Oct 2014 01:56
Very good ed 002. "Nothing to see here. " I know what your saying ed. All I was saying was that it was refreshing that they were looking at some of the people who were a bit closer in. I still think myself that the exit wound in the footage appears to come more from the top of jfk's head which suggests at leaSt 1 shot from lower down somewhere. Maybe Jackie's hidden hand/purse?

Supasub
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Reply · Not Registered · 10 Oct 2014 21:13
I believe the killshot came from the front of JFK to his left, and not from within the car as some have speculated. It was almost certainly a rifle. The Ford motor company confirmed that they replaced the windscreen. I think if you knew where the glass fragments landed, it would be easy enough to confirm the trajectory.

Ryan.
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Reply · Not Registered · 10 Oct 2014 20:50
10 Oct 2014 21:44:34
Yes soviet bio weapons research was quite advanced. Both sides grabbed German scientists after the war. Operation paperclip. The soviet army also overran the Japanese facility at harbin. Worth a look if you aren't sickened easily.

There were research facilities all over the soviet union, including in my home town. Which had a slight accident with anthrax which was covered up by the local party bigwig. I think he later had a successful political career.

I believe the Americans might have tested a few things in Vietnam. They were accused of using things in Cuba although this remains unproven. And even tested things in their own country - look up operation big buzz, I think it was called.

Kim Philby
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Reply · Supasub · 10 Oct 2014 20:43
Thanks jonty. Maybe it was myxomatosis and not cataracts. You know what I mean anyway.
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Reply · Supasub · 10 Oct 2014 20:43
Just noticed in my post further up it should be *taliban* family members and I'm alluding to obviously if using things on rabbits then why stop there?
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Reply · Not Registered · 10 Oct 2014 19:38
Supasub

Just got to see what they did with Myxomatosis in rabbits which was disease that man accidently found and used to his advantage.

Jonty
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