09 Oct 2014 12:07:41
ebola virus = population control
Evidence?
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09 Oct 2014 17:25:40
Usually cases of haemorrhagic fever's tend to burn out quite quickly. Usually after a few weeks. A month or just over at most. There very lethality and high contagiousness' works against them. If something is 90% contagious and is lethal to 70% or higher to those infected it makes it hard to spread it. Especially given as most outbreaks occur in rural Africa.
This epidemic has been raging for something approaching six months across three African countries. This seems to be strange to say the least.
Lastly this pages newest best friend Katie Hopkins latest insensitive comments suggest at least some people are beginning to think the same.
Kim Philby
Usually cases of haemorrhagic fever's tend to burn out quite quickly. Usually after a few weeks. A month or just over at most. There very lethality and high contagiousness' works against them. If something is 90% contagious and is lethal to 70% or higher to those infected it makes it hard to spread it. Especially given as most outbreaks occur in rural Africa.
This epidemic has been raging for something approaching six months across three African countries. This seems to be strange to say the least.
Lastly this pages newest best friend Katie Hopkins latest insensitive comments suggest at least some people are beginning to think the same.
Kim Philby
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I'd like to go all stato for a moment.
Since first being identified in 1976 and 2013 the WHO reported a total of 1716 cases of Ebola.
By the 3rd October this year there have been 7497 cases with 3439 deaths. On the news earlier cases had gone through 8000 and deaths to just under 4000.
So in 37 years we had 1700 reported cases, and in 10 months this year the number of reported cases has more than quadrupled. And you don't think that's just a little suspicious?
Looks like the mortality rate has come down from the usual 70%ish figure to around 50%. So whilst killing less, with more people surviving it increases the chances of infection, and with more people being infected then the number dying increases due to the larger volume of infected.
Sounds like someone's tinkered with the original strain to me.
Mort
Since first being identified in 1976 and 2013 the WHO reported a total of 1716 cases of Ebola.
By the 3rd October this year there have been 7497 cases with 3439 deaths. On the news earlier cases had gone through 8000 and deaths to just under 4000.
So in 37 years we had 1700 reported cases, and in 10 months this year the number of reported cases has more than quadrupled. And you don't think that's just a little suspicious?
Looks like the mortality rate has come down from the usual 70%ish figure to around 50%. So whilst killing less, with more people surviving it increases the chances of infection, and with more people being infected then the number dying increases due to the larger volume of infected.
Sounds like someone's tinkered with the original strain to me.
Mort
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09 Oct 2014 20:34:03
Of course who has done the tinkering and used it is subjective.
Obviously the main suspects would be the Americans. Interestingly Nixon got the Senate to ratify the 1925 Geneva protocols and banned all offensive weapon biological research. This was in 1969. Of course with all 'official' bio weapon research now limited to defensive research who's to say that offensive research carried on somewhere away from Fort Detrick?
The Russians though, from my research, seemed to have even more advanced research than the Americans. Could have released it to focus attention elsewhere? With this and the Middle East going on Ukraine has slipped down the agenda.
Probably the Americans though.
Mort
Of course who has done the tinkering and used it is subjective.
Obviously the main suspects would be the Americans. Interestingly Nixon got the Senate to ratify the 1925 Geneva protocols and banned all offensive weapon biological research. This was in 1969. Of course with all 'official' bio weapon research now limited to defensive research who's to say that offensive research carried on somewhere away from Fort Detrick?
The Russians though, from my research, seemed to have even more advanced research than the Americans. Could have released it to focus attention elsewhere? With this and the Middle East going on Ukraine has slipped down the agenda.
Probably the Americans though.
Mort
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Came across this when looking into what the Americans get up to.
http://gizmodo.com/project-mkultra-one-of-the-most-shocking-cia-programs-1370236359
Jonty
http://gizmodo.com/project-mkultra-one-of-the-most-shocking-cia-programs-1370236359
Jonty
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Was discussing this with my father a couple of days ago and he is a little skeptical but he did say that Cataracts in rabbits was apparently man made to keep the rabbit population down. Now why would this sort of thing go on in say africa where life is cheap.
Its been thought that the cia would flood ghettos with drugs to keep the numbers down.
Recently it came out that the Americans used a vaccination programme in Asia but actually took dna samples instead to locate potential tailbacks family member. It was only covered in small print in some tabloids. Can't believe it wasn't bigger news and what else have they been up to? And where else and how many dna samples have they collected?
Its been thought that the cia would flood ghettos with drugs to keep the numbers down.
Recently it came out that the Americans used a vaccination programme in Asia but actually took dna samples instead to locate potential tailbacks family member. It was only covered in small print in some tabloids. Can't believe it wasn't bigger news and what else have they been up to? And where else and how many dna samples have they collected?
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Supasub
Just got to see what they did with Myxomatosis in rabbits which was disease that man accidently found and used to his advantage.
Jonty
Just got to see what they did with Myxomatosis in rabbits which was disease that man accidently found and used to his advantage.
Jonty
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Thanks jonty. Maybe it was myxomatosis and not cataracts. You know what I mean anyway.
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Just noticed in my post further up it should be *taliban* family members and I'm alluding to obviously if using things on rabbits then why stop there?
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10 Oct 2014 21:44:34
Yes soviet bio weapons research was quite advanced. Both sides grabbed German scientists after the war. Operation paperclip. The soviet army also overran the Japanese facility at harbin. Worth a look if you aren't sickened easily.
There were research facilities all over the soviet union, including in my home town. Which had a slight accident with anthrax which was covered up by the local party bigwig. I think he later had a successful political career.
I believe the Americans might have tested a few things in Vietnam. They were accused of using things in Cuba although this remains unproven. And even tested things in their own country - look up operation big buzz, I think it was called.
Kim Philby
Yes soviet bio weapons research was quite advanced. Both sides grabbed German scientists after the war. Operation paperclip. The soviet army also overran the Japanese facility at harbin. Worth a look if you aren't sickened easily.
There were research facilities all over the soviet union, including in my home town. Which had a slight accident with anthrax which was covered up by the local party bigwig. I think he later had a successful political career.
I believe the Americans might have tested a few things in Vietnam. They were accused of using things in Cuba although this remains unproven. And even tested things in their own country - look up operation big buzz, I think it was called.
Kim Philby
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KP would that be the 1979 anthrax leak in Sverdlovsk? Previously, and again, known as Yekaterinburg, scene of the murder of the Romanovs?
If so then I ma guessing the local party bigwig was Yeltsin?
Interesting you mention Harbin, as one of the major things the Japanese were working on and tested was anthrax, which as you say the facility and scientists were captured by the red army.
I understand research is still ongoing as well.
Mort
If so then I ma guessing the local party bigwig was Yeltsin?
Interesting you mention Harbin, as one of the major things the Japanese were working on and tested was anthrax, which as you say the facility and scientists were captured by the red army.
I understand research is still ongoing as well.
Mort
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11 Oct 2014 17:38:24
Correct Mort. Yeltsins an interesting character.
Kim Philby
Correct Mort. Yeltsins an interesting character.
Kim Philby
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