I believe we did evolve from Apes, way to many similarities/charachteristics between the the 2 for us not to be related somehow.
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Can I just thank Ed033 for sharing the Lloyd pye video the other day. Found it interesting and it very much opened my mind on a subject I knew nothing about. Still a newbie to it so not sure why my opinion is right now but I can recommend the video to anyone who has not seen it.
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22 Jun 2014 14:52:03
If your going to mount an operation you use proxies. And let's face it there is a large pool of misguided volunteers who hate the west to choose from. People who think what they are doing is for their cause when it serves another's purpose.
Kim Philby
Read discussionIf your going to mount an operation you use proxies. And let's face it there is a large pool of misguided volunteers who hate the west to choose from. People who think what they are doing is for their cause when it serves another's purpose.
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Ah right, thanks. Wasn't sure what you meant so thanks for explaining.
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frankyscouser · 21 Jun 2014 15:55
frankyscouser · 21 Jun 2014 15:55No H not at all, what I am trying to say is there could be a shadow terrorist militia run by the elite and allowed to happen by our government.
Read discussionAgreed Ryan. So many things to consider, including:
1. Evidence that only 2 people travelled south from Leeds, rather than the 3 reported
2. Explosives seemed to be under the carriages, shown by the nature of the holes and most of the injuries being to lower bodies
3. Very dubious eye witness evidence of the supposed bombers, in some cases nobody saw them
4. Location of supposed bombers on carriages did not match up to the direction and extent of explosions/injuries
5. Eye witness testimony of people matching the same description being shot in canary wharf later that day
6. Official story stated that the initial train they got on was 7. 30 (from memory) when it was found that that train was cancelled on the day
And so on
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Read discussion1. Evidence that only 2 people travelled south from Leeds, rather than the 3 reported
2. Explosives seemed to be under the carriages, shown by the nature of the holes and most of the injuries being to lower bodies
3. Very dubious eye witness evidence of the supposed bombers, in some cases nobody saw them
4. Location of supposed bombers on carriages did not match up to the direction and extent of explosions/injuries
5. Eye witness testimony of people matching the same description being shot in canary wharf later that day
6. Official story stated that the initial train they got on was 7. 30 (from memory) when it was found that that train was cancelled on the day
And so on
Harold
Franky, are you implying that the 4 people were true terrorists who planned the event as stated?
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There is water and oxygen on Mars, so it's not unreasonable to think there might be life of some sort.
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Eds I hope it's ok to post this quote, but I think a lot of people still don't know that a drill was being run on 7/7 that exactly simulated the real events. Just like 9/11.
BBC INTERVIEW WITH PETER POWER ON THE AFTERNOON OF July 7th 2005
PETER POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.
HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?
POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don’t want to reveal their name but they’re listening and they’ll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they’d met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.
If the above interview doesn't worry you enough, Benjamin Netanyahu said he was told to stay in his hotel by Scotland Yard on the morning of 7/7 before the first explosion. Of course they later denied it.
Ryan.
Read discussionBBC INTERVIEW WITH PETER POWER ON THE AFTERNOON OF July 7th 2005
PETER POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.
HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?
POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don’t want to reveal their name but they’re listening and they’ll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they’d met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.
If the above interview doesn't worry you enough, Benjamin Netanyahu said he was told to stay in his hotel by Scotland Yard on the morning of 7/7 before the first explosion. Of course they later denied it.
Ryan.
Reply · frankyscouser · 21 Jun 2014 12:24
frankyscouser · 21 Jun 2014 12:247/7 was allowed to happen, I think we get side tracked on nations behind the event, for all we know the Kabul could hire mercenaries from all over the globe to carry out the attack.
Read discussionAll I know is there was an agenda of confusion to keep people in the dark, the media coverage was laughable. I think the plane was taken somewhere for some reason, I don't think it went missing or crashed.
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Fully agree, as with all false flags the official story just falls to pieces under scrutiny.
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20 Jun 2014 21:39:08
Did anyone see the one about the new fish eating species of spider that was discovered.
Read discussionDid anyone see the one about the new fish eating species of spider that was discovered.
20 Jun 2014 15:10:24
I knew a few Armenians, their not big fans of the Turks either. Understandable. Its amazing what some people get away with.
Kim Philby
Read discussionI knew a few Armenians, their not big fans of the Turks either. Understandable. Its amazing what some people get away with.
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20 Jun 2014 14:51:07
Indeed, political expediency seems to over rule the supposed ideals nato stands for. Its not like the Turks have a history of massacres or atrocities either. Yes my sarcasm head is on.
Kim Philby
Read discussionIndeed, political expediency seems to over rule the supposed ideals nato stands for. Its not like the Turks have a history of massacres or atrocities either. Yes my sarcasm head is on.
Kim Philby
20 Jun 2014 14:25:44
But they tried to take refuge to escape Hussein so is he not the catalyst for them attempting to take refuge and getting killed? If he had left them alone and not tested gas on them like at Halubja, then they wouldn't have tried to take refuge in turkey and wouldn't have gotten killed. So is it not fair to at least place some blame on him?
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Read discussionBut they tried to take refuge to escape Hussein so is he not the catalyst for them attempting to take refuge and getting killed? If he had left them alone and not tested gas on them like at Halubja, then they wouldn't have tried to take refuge in turkey and wouldn't have gotten killed. So is it not fair to at least place some blame on him?
Kim Philby
20 Jun 2014 14:20:29
I think Kerry will be the democrat nominee at the next election. he's the stand out candidate and only Hilary Clinton is likely opposition. Not sure anyone is ready for that prospect. I don't know a lot on Kerry.
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Read discussionI think Kerry will be the democrat nominee at the next election. he's the stand out candidate and only Hilary Clinton is likely opposition. Not sure anyone is ready for that prospect. I don't know a lot on Kerry.
Kim Philby
20 Jun 2014 13:39:33
For what its worth on Wilson, I don't think its true. Bearing in mind he resigned in 1976 and I was being measured for my uniform at the time it was way above my pay grade so this is only my opinion as I have no proof either way.
But I think the Wilson was a kgb agent is bogus. For start there's nothing he did policy wise that could be considered as Moscow directed. Whilst in his younger days he was on the left of the labour party (which would make him agent potential) by the time he became an mp in 1945 his politics had moved to the centre left. He won the 1963 labour party leadership contest caused by the untimely death of Hugh Gaitskell on a uniting the party ticket after Jim Callaghan and George Brown split the centre right vote. A year later he won the general election. Whilst at the time a lot of the labour party supported unilateral disarmament, which certainly suited Moscow, Wilson never considered it.
Personally I think he was the victim of a smear campaign by mi5 to weaken him by implicating him as a soviet agent. Bear in mind the legacy of the Cambridge 5 and the suspicion that there were other highly placed spies.
There were of course other such spies, including in government circles, but a British prime minister? We could only wish. On a separate note I do for fact know there were sources of information inside the government as I met one at an ashes game at lords.
I have also seen the rumour that both Jim Callaghan and Tony Blair were cia assets.
Kim Philby
Read discussionFor what its worth on Wilson, I don't think its true. Bearing in mind he resigned in 1976 and I was being measured for my uniform at the time it was way above my pay grade so this is only my opinion as I have no proof either way.
But I think the Wilson was a kgb agent is bogus. For start there's nothing he did policy wise that could be considered as Moscow directed. Whilst in his younger days he was on the left of the labour party (which would make him agent potential) by the time he became an mp in 1945 his politics had moved to the centre left. He won the 1963 labour party leadership contest caused by the untimely death of Hugh Gaitskell on a uniting the party ticket after Jim Callaghan and George Brown split the centre right vote. A year later he won the general election. Whilst at the time a lot of the labour party supported unilateral disarmament, which certainly suited Moscow, Wilson never considered it.
Personally I think he was the victim of a smear campaign by mi5 to weaken him by implicating him as a soviet agent. Bear in mind the legacy of the Cambridge 5 and the suspicion that there were other highly placed spies.
There were of course other such spies, including in government circles, but a British prime minister? We could only wish. On a separate note I do for fact know there were sources of information inside the government as I met one at an ashes game at lords.
I have also seen the rumour that both Jim Callaghan and Tony Blair were cia assets.
Kim Philby
Reply · frankyscouser · 20 Jun 2014 12:31
frankyscouser · 20 Jun 2014 12:31Nice 1 joe interesting, I think I seen a tv science show last year were they tested a tribe member (cant remember which tribe) and a top usa college runner , the tribe runner who was barefoot ran longer and had less impact on his body than the american runner with state of the art trainers.
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frankyscouser · 20 Jun 2014 09:57I have just read a few pages about kerry's alleged time in Vietnam, it has parallels to George w bush claims that he was in the thick of it, I do not know enough of the subject to comment, he took you and your wife's room edd? did he not know who he was messing with?
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