Seriously?
Is this what they say in the chapel?
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Jay
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Why?
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Yes it, it's more believable to me, personally. Do I have to state that's just what I believe every time I post? No else seems to have to do so!
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Why exactly?
What's wrong with believing evolution?
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That's more believable than the religious theory anyway!
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Why exactly?
What's wrong with believing evolution?
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Read discussionWhat's wrong with believing evolution?
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That's more believable than the religious theory anyway!
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Evolution?
JK92
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I personally think religion is a con and a way to keep people like sheeps.
It's also a good way to start wars.
But, i'm not going to tell people what they should or shouldn't believe in or how to live their lives.
If you're happy with your life and don't hurt or tell anyone else how to live then what's the harm in it?
but when it comes to the bible and morals. you shouldn't need a book tell you how to treat other people or have Hell as an intimidation to be good during your life.
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Read discussionIt's also a good way to start wars.
But, i'm not going to tell people what they should or shouldn't believe in or how to live their lives.
If you're happy with your life and don't hurt or tell anyone else how to live then what's the harm in it?
but when it comes to the bible and morals. you shouldn't need a book tell you how to treat other people or have Hell as an intimidation to be good during your life.
JK92
You said, you weren't a typical bible basher, your own words ed. So I assumed you never went to chapel! So I'm sorry I took that the wrong way!
I'm rc too, or at least I was.
Look ed, I honestly am not directing my opinion at you, but at religion as a whole, because it's all there for everyone to see that's what religion is, the same story, with minute changes!
And I honestly mean no offence to you personally either. All I'm doing is expressing my opinion. Which is what this site is about.
If your religion makes you happy, then that's great, my opinion should hear no meaning to your personal beliefs.
I won't bother replying to your comment about what you think of me personally, everyone can't et on with everyone all the time!
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Jay
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Read discussionI'm rc too, or at least I was.
Look ed, I honestly am not directing my opinion at you, but at religion as a whole, because it's all there for everyone to see that's what religion is, the same story, with minute changes!
And I honestly mean no offence to you personally either. All I'm doing is expressing my opinion. Which is what this site is about.
If your religion makes you happy, then that's great, my opinion should hear no meaning to your personal beliefs.
I won't bother replying to your comment about what you think of me personally, everyone can't et on with everyone all the time!
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Jay
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No worries ed. I can understand why you'd have thought that with previous posts. So no hard feelings. Just so you know, I sympathise with the ed about what he thinks about his father who has passed. I wouldn't want to knock someone about that type of thing. I lost my brother last year, and although the concept of heaven/afterlife seems a nice one for some people, I'm happy knowing that my brother lived his life, and the stuff they made him will eventually be spewed back out into the universe, back out towards where it came from.
I don't know about the afterlife, as no one can know for sure, but of course, it would be great to think that our loved ones are somewhere.
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Jay
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Read discussionI don't know about the afterlife, as no one can know for sure, but of course, it would be great to think that our loved ones are somewhere.
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05 May 2014 14:07:28
There are two Americas, the coasts tend to be liberal, secular and wealth obsessed whilst the interior is more conservative, religious and less obsessed with the trappings of wealth. It really is a contrast when you travel through the place. However its the coasts that produce the cultural entertainment and thus drive the standards and desires of society. The American Way of honest business and success through hard work has become corrupted into a fame at all costs mentality. The American Dream is turning into a nightmare. The message of you must be famous, you must be rich, you must own a mansion, a Ferrari, a trophy partner or your nothing, is all through film, tv, music videos etc. These are splashed around the world show casing the American Dream, causing cultural contamination. Societies that have been exposed to it longest have begun to crack. Societies that haven't had this prolonged exposure, such as the more religiously conservative middle eastern countries are prone to violent outbursts of anti Americanism which in turn leads to an increase in American interference to "turn then into us" through cultural brain washing.
Kim Philby
Read discussionThere are two Americas, the coasts tend to be liberal, secular and wealth obsessed whilst the interior is more conservative, religious and less obsessed with the trappings of wealth. It really is a contrast when you travel through the place. However its the coasts that produce the cultural entertainment and thus drive the standards and desires of society. The American Way of honest business and success through hard work has become corrupted into a fame at all costs mentality. The American Dream is turning into a nightmare. The message of you must be famous, you must be rich, you must own a mansion, a Ferrari, a trophy partner or your nothing, is all through film, tv, music videos etc. These are splashed around the world show casing the American Dream, causing cultural contamination. Societies that have been exposed to it longest have begun to crack. Societies that haven't had this prolonged exposure, such as the more religiously conservative middle eastern countries are prone to violent outbursts of anti Americanism which in turn leads to an increase in American interference to "turn then into us" through cultural brain washing.
Kim Philby
Fair enough. It's just that I posted ages ago, and other posts are getting seen while mine isn't. So I apologise if it seems I'm being a tad funny about my reply, I just think it's only fair everyone's opinions get seen/aired!
Just so you know, ed said he isn't the typical bible bashing type anyway, and I'm sure it's not a religious god he/she believes in. Which to me makes more sense. That the holy book type gods.
Look ed, I feel the same about all religions, and I'm sure the Ed knows I'm not directing everything at him/her, but at religion as the one whole entity.
Again though, why does my opinion irk you so much? Or anyone else? It is after all only an opinion. An opinion I would change should the right evidence present itself!
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Jay
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Read discussionJust so you know, ed said he isn't the typical bible bashing type anyway, and I'm sure it's not a religious god he/she believes in. Which to me makes more sense. That the holy book type gods.
Look ed, I feel the same about all religions, and I'm sure the Ed knows I'm not directing everything at him/her, but at religion as the one whole entity.
Again though, why does my opinion irk you so much? Or anyone else? It is after all only an opinion. An opinion I would change should the right evidence present itself!
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Jay
Glasgow
Hi ed. I'm more than aware the good religion can do, seen it with my own eyes. And In no way am I trying to make people feel daft for believing. I just don't think we as a people should be governed with religious persuasion Is all. If it makes people happy, that's a good thing. It's when stuff like, gays shouldn't be allowed to be married, shops shouldn't sell this or that, etc. It annoys me, as their personal beliefs then become forced on the public, which isn't right or fair.
I'm all for people believing what they want, but not forcing their beliefs on others, as happens in this country!
Separation of church and state would be best for all, then no one religion is favoured over any other, and no religious ways are implemented on our ways of life!
I've got a few friends who say they believe in god, but not a religious one. To me, that's better than believing any religious god, especially when you know and have read all the atrocities these gods green lighted in their holy books. I suppose I'd tend to think there's more of a chance, ever so slightly just more, that if there were to be a god, then he/she would have to be another being from another world, far more technologically advanced being. But that is only conjecture and speculation, and most likely not true. The thing is, we know we'd be here with or without a god, the science and evidence is their to support this.
How anyone would want to actively want to worship one of the evil, sadistic gods of the holy books, is really beyond me. The sad thing is, most don't know about the darker parts of their holy books. As a lot of believers haven't even read the bible, sounds crazy, but it's true. So they believe what they here at their chapels, churches, synagogues etc. As you're not going to hear the twisted and selfish sides of the bibles in any house of worship.
Anyway, I personally think the story of evolution, the fact we are made of the same stuff as the stars, all that stuff is much more palatable to me. Makes life feel that more special, knowing the odds of actually being a human being here today. And there's always knew findings on the horizon and new theories. The mystery of life is a beautiful one, and it really is ok not to know all the answers, science definitely hasn't ever claimed to do so. The findings of other worlds like ours, in the same Goldilocks zones, all that stuff truly is remarkable. But that's just me I suppose.
Each to their own, and no one should force their way on others!
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Jay
Glasgow
Read discussionI'm all for people believing what they want, but not forcing their beliefs on others, as happens in this country!
Separation of church and state would be best for all, then no one religion is favoured over any other, and no religious ways are implemented on our ways of life!
I've got a few friends who say they believe in god, but not a religious one. To me, that's better than believing any religious god, especially when you know and have read all the atrocities these gods green lighted in their holy books. I suppose I'd tend to think there's more of a chance, ever so slightly just more, that if there were to be a god, then he/she would have to be another being from another world, far more technologically advanced being. But that is only conjecture and speculation, and most likely not true. The thing is, we know we'd be here with or without a god, the science and evidence is their to support this.
How anyone would want to actively want to worship one of the evil, sadistic gods of the holy books, is really beyond me. The sad thing is, most don't know about the darker parts of their holy books. As a lot of believers haven't even read the bible, sounds crazy, but it's true. So they believe what they here at their chapels, churches, synagogues etc. As you're not going to hear the twisted and selfish sides of the bibles in any house of worship.
Anyway, I personally think the story of evolution, the fact we are made of the same stuff as the stars, all that stuff is much more palatable to me. Makes life feel that more special, knowing the odds of actually being a human being here today. And there's always knew findings on the horizon and new theories. The mystery of life is a beautiful one, and it really is ok not to know all the answers, science definitely hasn't ever claimed to do so. The findings of other worlds like ours, in the same Goldilocks zones, all that stuff truly is remarkable. But that's just me I suppose.
Each to their own, and no one should force their way on others!
Peace
Jay
Glasgow
Fair enough. It's just that I posted ages ago, and other posts are getting seen while mine isn't. So I apologise if it seems I'm being a tad funny about my reply, I just think it's only fair everyone's opinions get seen/aired!
Just so you know, ed said he isn't the typical bible bashing type anyway, and I'm sure it's not a religious god he/she believes in. Which to me makes more sense. That the holy book type gods.
Look ed, I feel the same about all religions, and I'm sure the Ed knows I'm not directing everything at him/her, but at religion as the one whole entity.
Again though, why does my opinion irk you so much? Or anyone else? It is after all only an opinion. An opinion I would change should the right evidence present itself!
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Jay
Glasgow
Read discussionJust so you know, ed said he isn't the typical bible bashing type anyway, and I'm sure it's not a religious god he/she believes in. Which to me makes more sense. That the holy book type gods.
Look ed, I feel the same about all religions, and I'm sure the Ed knows I'm not directing everything at him/her, but at religion as the one whole entity.
Again though, why does my opinion irk you so much? Or anyone else? It is after all only an opinion. An opinion I would change should the right evidence present itself!
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Jay
Glasgow
Shaun, I hope you watch the links I mentioned above, and read as much material on 9/11 as you can. When I first heard it mentioned that 9/11 might have been an inside job I thought it was crazy. I'd say most people here probably did.
For a long time I didn't believe it. I hope you keep researching the subject, and continue posting your thoughts here.
Ryan.
Read discussionFor a long time I didn't believe it. I hope you keep researching the subject, and continue posting your thoughts here.
Ryan.
The US is a country that seems to me to be completely lacking in compassion KP. It doesn't take care of it's weak and vulnerable. I agree sadly we are seeing more and more 'cultural contamination' from America. It's an apt phrase.
We are conditioned to believe that the more material goods we gain, the happier we will become. But it's not working. It's going to take an massive shift in consciousness for that to change and I'm afraid I don't see that happening any time soon.
Ryan.
Read discussionWe are conditioned to believe that the more material goods we gain, the happier we will become. But it's not working. It's going to take an massive shift in consciousness for that to change and I'm afraid I don't see that happening any time soon.
Ryan.
I'm sorry, but that is just untrue. You clearly didn't read my reply. I thought we were allowed to express out opinions freely in here? Why censor certain viewpoints?
If you'd read my reply, you'd see that I mention that I understand religion can be good for people, that I simply don't see the need for it!
Really shocked at what this site has become!
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Jay
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Ps! By reading most replies, seems everyone tends to direct a post anyway, especially to the eds, so even if my reply was directed at ed, which it wasn't, why am I the only person who's not allowed to reply? Why are my opinions being censored!
Read discussionIf you'd read my reply, you'd see that I mention that I understand religion can be good for people, that I simply don't see the need for it!
Really shocked at what this site has become!
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Jay
Glasgow
Ps! By reading most replies, seems everyone tends to direct a post anyway, especially to the eds, so even if my reply was directed at ed, which it wasn't, why am I the only person who's not allowed to reply? Why are my opinions being censored!
05 May 2014 12:11:21
And that reinforces my point about respect. Such an intelligent rebuttal. Young man I sense you will go far.
Kim Philby
Read discussionAnd that reinforces my point about respect. Such an intelligent rebuttal. Young man I sense you will go far.
Kim Philby
05 May 2014 12:06:55
Agreed Ryan.
I would say a lot of it is cultural contamination from America. People see the likes of the Kardashians, who have no real talent or skill taking in millions of dollars and appearing on tv and being famous for doing what exactly?
Then we have the likes of the x factor, britains got talent, big brother. Everyone wants to get rich and famous and do it in 5 minutes. And they mistake notoriety for fame so its a downward spiral of doing more vile acts to become infamous and get the money.
And people on tv are always so rude to each other, this is then copied and repeated. There is no respect anymore.
Growing up we had no religion, we had the party. But the soviet union had some of the lowest crime statistics in the world. We had no God, no priests or churches but we still had morals. We were terrified of our father growing up as if we misbehaved we knew it was a trip to the woodshed and i'd like to think we turned out ok. But then our parents generation fought the Nazis, more venerated than respected. My father went from Stalingrad to Berlin how do you disrespect a man who has been through that.
I speak with many English people of my generation and they say the same things. I think its a combination of the permissiveness of the 60's, the disillusionment of the 70's and the excess of the 80's which has led to a general collapse of societal relations with regards to mutual respect and decency.
Kim Philby
Read discussionAgreed Ryan.
I would say a lot of it is cultural contamination from America. People see the likes of the Kardashians, who have no real talent or skill taking in millions of dollars and appearing on tv and being famous for doing what exactly?
Then we have the likes of the x factor, britains got talent, big brother. Everyone wants to get rich and famous and do it in 5 minutes. And they mistake notoriety for fame so its a downward spiral of doing more vile acts to become infamous and get the money.
And people on tv are always so rude to each other, this is then copied and repeated. There is no respect anymore.
Growing up we had no religion, we had the party. But the soviet union had some of the lowest crime statistics in the world. We had no God, no priests or churches but we still had morals. We were terrified of our father growing up as if we misbehaved we knew it was a trip to the woodshed and i'd like to think we turned out ok. But then our parents generation fought the Nazis, more venerated than respected. My father went from Stalingrad to Berlin how do you disrespect a man who has been through that.
I speak with many English people of my generation and they say the same things. I think its a combination of the permissiveness of the 60's, the disillusionment of the 70's and the excess of the 80's which has led to a general collapse of societal relations with regards to mutual respect and decency.
Kim Philby