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Hey Glasgow,
I think Ed001's comment on remote viewing is a valid point and one that requires further investigation before dismissal. As confirmed by those who teach rv the next step in the development of that ability is obe (out of body experience) or light body travel. They take time to develop, much like rebuilding an atrophied muscle, but one has but to practice and observe the results.

Solid proof is hard to come by. The reason is the primitive machines scientists use to analyze such high frequency phenomena. No photospectrometry, no scalar wave technology, no understanding of the macrocosm - microcosm resolution (see controlled environment). It's always the same EEG, card guessing and picture guessing routine. High frequencies are by definition not solid.

If one requires to access a higher aspect of their consciousness to achieve esp (extra-sensory perception) then wouldn't using such abilities for monetary gain be in contrast with that higher consciousness? Wouldn't shifting one's focus from higher frequencies (spirit) to lower frequencies (matter) in effect lower the energy concentration required for esp?

The fact that the Nazi, USSR and US governments invested monetary resources and effort into analyzing such phenomena, without ever publishing their results, is proof enough that they are real.

By the way how would you react if someone came up to you and told you they could see everything you do at all times, feel everything you feel while doing it and hear what you think? What if they proved it to you? How would you feel then?
zari

My wife persuaded me a few years ago to go and see "Psychic Sally" at the Lyceum in Crewe. I watched a few of her TV shows first to see how she operated, so I was prepared for what she was like. But even I couldn't believe how bad she was and yet how easily people seemed to be sucked in.

Jay I understand we will not agree on everything like mediums but the bug bare is when you say "if its proven "
proven by who?we live in a world of lies and deceit, I think most of us on this site think we can create free energy but if there was a million pound challenge to anyone to create it, what do you think would happen?people debunking it?calling the creator a fraud?all I am saying mate is because 99% of mediums take advantage of people like your mum and maybe my mum it does not mean everyone is at it, if that's the case the Buddhist monks must be part of the charade.

I think that kind of fraud is so widespread that it had become an accepted perk to many politicians. It's happened here in Ireland recently, with a politician called Ivor Callely. You're right to draw attention to these people Franky, they have no integrity. Sadly this stuff is only the tip of the iceberg.

Ryan.

Not sure what to make of remote viewing, personally I doubt it, but would definitely be willing to change my viewpoint based on solid evidence, again like a blind test. I hope it actually is real though, be quite interesting to see where it could lead.

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Jay
Glasgow

Hi Ed. Thanks for the reply again! I have to disagree that I'm not open minded enough. Like most, I'll give anything the time of day if there's evidence to back up at least some of it up. I believe there are others somewhere out there, in the vastness of the mystery that is the universe, I hold hope that before I die, that this will confirmed. That's probably as about open minded as I may be though, but I'm always willing and ready to change my views, based on evidence!
I'll agree 100% that non of us know about these so called powers, reason being that are are non to be known of. Don't get me wrong ed, if it's ever actually proven, I'll be the first one on here holding my hands up and admitting my thoughts were inaccurate.

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Jay
Glasgow

Hi ed, thanks for your reply. I know enough about the whole scene to know it's nothing more than word play, and that's it. Anyone can see the flaws with it all, and you don't have to be educated to see that it's a load of nonsense. That's just how I feel mate!

I don't think anyone would be hiding the fact they had these powers, they tell us everyday on the telly that they have these abilities. And no, they wouldn't be blamed for everything, that would be very unfair if they did.

The test thing, I'm sorry ed, have to disagree again, if you had these abilities, you'd be able to prove it to the world without a shadow of doubt!

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Jay
Glasgow

I've yet to see or hear of a psychic who isn't interested in money. With the million dollar cheque thing, a genuine psychic not interested in money, could turn up and do the blind testing, pass it and donate the cheque to a charity. But no one has come forward, and the people like John Edward and psychic Sally won't even take calls from the organisation about the test.
Ryan, remember how clever some of these people can be. This woman you speak of, she could be someone just tapping into the whole cold reading thing, and merely used you to practice her work on. All she had to do was get you to place meaning to a name, even if the person is still alive, once that's done, you're pretty much giving everything away without noticing so.
Watch this classic South Park take on it, nailed it perfectly.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bptjghTNUkE
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Jay
Glasgow

Ps. There's nothing I'd like more than to see psychic ability proven, but I'm almost certain that it'll never happen

Surely there is no obstacle for a person with real psychic ability? They should be able prove beyond doubt everything they say they can, shouldn't they?
What obstacles do you mean ed?

And sorry ed, no. I don't for a second think that these abilities could actually just manifest themselves upon someone at any given time. That's another thing, always some kinda discrepancy hide flaws on the whole idea.

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Jay
Glasgow

Hi ed, I was getting at these con artists making money from people like our mums that's all.
Thanks for your replies to!

Cool franky mate, can't agree on everything eh? Lol

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Jay
Glasgow

See ed. It's that type of person I really do feel for. It's kind of happening with my mum just now too, not so much her, as folk saying things to her. I feel like it actually slows down the process of dealing with the loss of a loved one. And in no way am I saying it ever gets easier to live with, but all that stuff really just gives them false hope and a lighter purse.


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Jay
Glasgow

Nah jay I never took it personally m8.
if that's how you feel then that's how you feel, I am just giving you my take on it.

Oh aye, and very very clever, the c u next Tuesday part, you come up with that big belter by yourself. Haven't heard that one before! You should patent that puppy before anyone else steals it.
Take it you're just realising that the woman you spoke to was actually playing you like a fool? Not my fault pal!

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Jay
Glasgow

Ps. Tried replying quite a few times tonight but to no avail. Hope the problem is fixed soon

Haha, thanks again ed mate!

Franky mate, I really hope you didn't take that personally, I'm speaking about the whole community. And yes, I suppose I am guilty of making a sweeping statement mate, but what I've said about it really is how I personally feel about it.
I'd hate to think you'd taken offence to anything I've said big chap

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Jay
Glasgow

I've yet to see or hear about a psychic that's not influenced by the financial benefits of such "abilities"?

mate how many psychics do you know?i am not trying to be funny but to assume everyone is a fraud is a sweeping statement, I can not back it up that 1% are genuine, I am just going off my mothers claims and I do appreciate that she could have been played but at the same time because no one has took up the 1 million challenge does not mean a person has not these gifts.

Cheers ed, there may be a few doublers lol.

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Jay
Glasgow

If that's a joke mate, it's either really bad, or too clever for me!
If it's not, please do elaborate? Did something I say get to you? If so I apologise and would like the opportunity to discuss further with you!

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Jay
Glasgow

Ps! Tried replying twice now, not getting on, have to assume it's a problem with either my phone or wifi

Around that time ryan all mps were getting it with both barrels from everyone and the people wanted blood and he was there sacrificial lamb, labour have p----d me off as much as the the tories, they have not challenged cameron in any way shake or form because they know they have dodgy mps who are doing exactly the same as miller.

my original post was a sort of rallying call for everyone not to except what you are being fed, I am just glad at the very least she went and the people had a small victory.

Jay, how did you know his name was John?
And who told you about the putty? I never told anyone about that. Not even her.

C u next tuesday.

Ryan.

Forgive my ignorance on this subject Franky but how come the labour guy (McShane?) gets jail time, but she gets a pat on the back, and is told carry on your job is safe? Am I missing something here?

Ryan.